Or Brazil when they beat us at the Olympics.
FC Bayern 17/18 discussion
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Let us enjoy for a while. We are not facing you in the Champions League this season
The same procedure as every year, James!Let us enjoy for a while. We are not facing you in the Champions League this season
Let us enjoy for a while. We are not facing you in the Champions League this season
We could still get third in the group stage and than throw you out of the Europa League... just for the fun of it...
There needs to be episode 4 and 5...
We could still get third in the group stage and than throw you out of the Europa League... just for the fun of it...
There needs to be episode 4 and 5...
WTF, that's bad man... that's really, really horrible.
Muller wants to leave
Says who?
We could still get third in the group stage and than throw you out of the Europa League... just for the fun of it...
There needs to be episode 4 and 5...
Couldn't take it lol!
Go away.
I'm here to stay
In that case, try harder please
Just watched how Iwobi mugged Renato Sanches off. The guy is finding it very difficult.
Sanches has lost his confidence. I think the best would be to loan him back to Benfica where he would stay home another year - best with a teacher to learn him German. The move probably was too early for him.
If there was atleast the chance to give him playing time - but he will not get this at Bayern like this.
I do agree. Should have waited at least another 2 years before moving to a big team like Bayern.
It's seriously impressive how Bayern have managed to sign the likes of Lewa, Hummels, James, Thiago and Vidal in the last couple of years for under 100 million
When Bayern signed Deisler, he did cost officially 9 Mio €. The player also received more than double that, 20 Mio €, as a personal payment for having the grace to pick up a pen and sign his name on the dotted ("Handgeld" = "prest money"?).
Now, this is only known to the public because it was leaked. It also was more than 15 years ago.
With that in mind, I sincerely doubt *any* of the official sums we read about in the media give the full picture about how much money actually changed hands and ended up in whose pockets.
There is no reason at all why anybody would join Bayern for less than market price, as football is a worldwide business.
The one thing in favour for Bayern is that they established themselves a reputation of being a club both capable of competing at the highest level, as well as that their paychecks don't bounce, so i imagine both selling clubs and agents will be willing to deal with them rather than many other clubs.(Although the latter seems to have become less of an issue recently).
This combined may make up for a tiny difference in the amount of money Bayern has to pay, but not very much.
Both these sums were still in DM, not in €. So it's actually around half of that. Wasn't the rumoured sign-on bonus of Lewandowski around 20mio €?
edit: Sorry, the transfer fee was actually 18mio DM, so the 9mio € are correct.
True, but it can at least be said that Bayern has shown a knack for seizing special opportunities to get top players/talents for relatively low transfer fees: Boateng, Robben, Lewandowski (on a free), Thiago, now James...
Four of them had difficulties at their club, while Lewa's story was different, of course. As far as I can remember, Bayern was the club that was most determined about buying these players (again, Lewa aside), and got them below their former transfer value - that's good business.
Loans or they were in the last year of their contracts.
what i forgot to add in my previous posting: We shouldn't kid ourselves that there are only two resp. three (hiring club, selling club, player/agent) parties involved in a high-profile signing. We're talking sponsor and federation interests as well. Leagues want high-profile players, sponsors want posterboys.
Adidas, Nike and the rest have a big say as well. Anyone believes Adidas would easily let a top shirt salesman like Neymar or Ronaldo go to a Nike-club?
Cristiano is a Nike athlete at an Adidas Club and Messi is an Adidas athlete at a Nike Club.
true that
i shouldn't post after 8hrs work and 5hrs Autobahn... please disregard Götze and Ribery also are Nike men. So it doesn't apply for top players.. (any more)
but it has an influence on 2nd tiers and prospects. Read an article once about one who's career ended this way. His current club told him they didn't plan with him, he had an offer from another one but it wasn't Adidas and he had a contract with them.
Hope you can relax & enjoy a nice cold after work drink, then!true that
My impressions from preseason so far:
- loving Tolisso. What a joy to watch
- Renato has done well
- Coman has done well
- James hasn't done that well, but it's still great to have him. He's involved, eager, and most of all..
- Müller has accepted the challenge
- Dorsch is awesome
- Ribéry is looking like his unplayable very best, which however only reminds me of the monumental idiocy of subbing him off after 70 minutes at the Bernabeu
- loving Tolisso. What a joy to watch
- Renato has done well
- Coman has done well
- James hasn't done that well, but it's still great to have him. He's involved, eager, and most of all..
- Müller has accepted the challenge
- Dorsch is awesome
- Ribéry is looking like his unplayable very best, which however only reminds me of the monumental idiocy of subbing him off after 70 minutes at the Bernabeu
I've been amazed by Ribery. Watching him in the last couple of games as well as last season, he's been your best player and it's hard to believe he's 34. He's playing better now after coming back from injury so many times than 2013 when he got nominated for the Ballon D'Or and that's incredible. We crying out for someone like that on the wings at United. Bayern is super lucky to have him and Robben performing like they have for so long.My impressions from preseason so far:
- loving Tolisso. What a joy to watch
- Renato has done well
- Coman has done well
- James hasn't done that well, but it's still great to have him. He's involved, eager, and most of all..
- Müller has accepted the challenge
- Dorsch is awesome
- Ribéry is looking like his unplayable very best, which however only reminds me of the monumental idiocy of subbing him off after 70 minutes at the Bernabeu
Agree regarding Ribéry. At this rate it wouldn't even matter if he lost pace. One of the best wing playmakers, Hazard would do well to emulate him.
I never got to watch Gadocha-Lato or Rivellino-Jairzinho, but I have seen Giggs-Beckham and then Robbery. It's been a pleasure.
I never got to watch Gadocha-Lato or Rivellino-Jairzinho, but I have seen Giggs-Beckham and then Robbery. It's been a pleasure.
Watch him get injured a week before the CL semifinals.
Wow, they are biggest hypocrits in the world. First all those "concerns" about scweinie, then stealing all best players from rivals and today they reached peak. Uli hoeness said - "bayern will not be involved in transfer madness". After they spent 150 mil( if you count james future fee).
Wow, they are biggest hypocrits in the world. First all those "concerns" about scweinie, then stealing all best players from rivals and today they reached peak. Uli hoeness said - "bayern will not be involved in transfer madness". After they spent 150 mil( if you count james future fee).
Well they spent 100 million this summer and got 6 players for it, including Tolisso, James, 2 confed cup winning German national team players in Rudy and Süle, they bought Coman, and bought Gnabry to loan him. I haven't seen them offering to pay 150 million for a single player yet. Let alone 100 million for a single player.
Well what is difference between 100 mil on 3 or 4 players or 100 on one player? They payed tolisso 40 mill. They payed 10 mil for loan for a player who was sub of the sub in real. Why spending 40 mil on tolisso is "normal fee"? And 70,80,90 mil is not normal?
If you need to cover couple of positions you will buy 3 good players for 100mil, if you need one player who makes difference , you will pay him 100 mil.
But in the end, you spent 100 mil. So it is total hypocrisy.
Nice wumming. I feel it comes naturally to you.
What a way to use your posts in the mains.
What is their starting lineup looking like?
Lewandowski
Ribery-Müller-James-Robben
Thiago-Vidal-Tolisso
Alaba-Hummels-Martinez-Boateng-Kimmich
Neuer
Pick 11 players out of these and you won't be far off really.
Süle, Bernat, Rafinha, Rudy, Sanches, Coman to come on additionally.
Bernat might've actually had a chance to compete with Alaba had he not got injured in preseason.
How come you don't see the difference between spending 150 million for 6 players, many of whom are huge prospects for the future and investing 100 million for one (!) player? Or soon 200 million, even? If you need to be explained how that isn't being hypocritical, then god help you... Bayern never said they wouldn't spend lots of money. What they said was they wouldn't spend lots of money for just one player.
I can't understand how they wouldn't be all over Sanchez.
Also, they are going to have to pay top rate wages sooner or later. Good won't be enough.
Also, they are going to have to pay top rate wages sooner or later. Good won't be enough.
Lewa, Muller, James, Ribery, Robben
He's at that level. But he doesn't immediately displace any of those.
Look, now i understand that this was wrong thread to say all that because i presume lots of people on this thread have love for bayern. I didn't try to wind you up or something like that. In my defence , i said many times that bayerns way of resolving problems with "unhappy" players is the best among big clubs. They don't allow players to blackmail them for contracts, transfers in "bigger" clubs, etc... Also the way how they manage their finances is great.
But this thing from hoeness about spending money , i just didn't liked. I only talked about that quote. Through years players fees and wages raising equally. Average players were 5 mill, now they are 10. Good players were 20 , now they are 40, superstars now worth 100mil. It is reality. Example tolisso, very good player, in old days is 20-25 mil player. They payed him 40. So they adapted in this transfer madness. The fact that they don't want (yet) to spend 100 mil for one player is just one thing that doesn't make them special as hoeness hinted.
Only my opinion, nothing else.
Why? His point seems correct to me. You spend money based on what you need, and what you can afford. Whether you spend 100M on 6 players or 1, you're still spending 100M. Hoeness can be happy about how bayern spend smart(which they do), but he's making a stupid point