Gaming Fallout 76

Ammo factory? So they finally looked at New Vegas and its custom ammo crafting to improve their shit, after acting for years like that game never existed so they didn't have to improve their standards?
 
I am thoroughly enjoying the dumpster fire that this FO76 project is turning out to be :angel:
 
I am thoroughly enjoying the dumpster fire that this FO76 project is turning out to be :angel:

Me too. The more this bombs and sinks Bethesda's reputation, the more hopeful I am this serves as a wake up call for them to stop being so lazy and actually bother updating the engine. Glad they're finally being called out for it, brutally.
 
No offense but it's a bit mentally unhealthy to habour such a grudge against a company concerning a game you don't own or have any intention of buying. Perhaps the £60 you saved not buying the game can be spent on a session with a mental health professional finding the actual root of unhappiness in your lives.
 
No offense but it's a bit mentally unhealthy to habour such a grudge against a company concerning a game you don't own or have any intention of buying. Perhaps the £60 you saved not buying the game can be spent on a session with a mental health professional finding the actual root of unhappiness in your lives.
It's more than a bit bizarre to imply that people making a negative post on an internet forum are harbouring "such a grudge" or need mental help. I don't understand what you hope to achieve here.

Even people who were never interested in this game might be huge fans of regular Elder Scrolls or Fallout games and are looking on wondering whether the company behind it have lost it completely. Speaking for myself, despite having zero interest in Fallout 76, it does make me concerned about the future of those games. I'm not sure I'll need mental help to battle those concerns though, I think I can just about manage.
 
It's more than a bit bizarre to imply that people making a negative post on an internet forum are harbouring "such a grudge" or need mental help. I don't understand what you hope to achieve here.

Even people who were never interested in this game might be huge fans of regular Elder Scrolls or Fallout games and are looking on wondering whether the company behind it have lost it completely. Speaking for myself, despite having zero interest in Fallout 76, it does make me concerned about the future of those games. I'm not sure I'll need mental help to battle those concerns though, I think I can just about manage.

But why does it make you concerned.
They tried something different with Fallout and it didn't work, not yet anyway.
They've made your elder scrolls games and have delivered, so on that basis, a failed game and you're concerned?

I get that the engine is outdated etc, I agree, but to be honest, Bethesda games have never looked that great, and although graphics are nice, the gameplay is what counts, which so far, for the Elder Scrolls series, has been good, no?
 
No offense but it's a bit mentally unhealthy to habour such a grudge against a company concerning a game you don't own or have any intention of buying. Perhaps the £60 you saved not buying the game can be spent on a session with a mental health professional finding the actual root of unhappiness in your lives.
Can't believe you pressed that "Post Reply" button :lol: You don't need to buy the game to see that it's a piece of crap. I bought Fallout 4 and even in 2015 technically and graphically it looked like a generation older game, somewhere from 2010. Nothing changed apart from a few extra god rays shining from the ground. What makes it worse is that they are gonna use the same engine for their upcoming games, Elder Scrolls and Starfield. People are worried and rightly so. The base of the game (engine) is already 10 years past its use by date, shockingly bad optimised and a bug fest. I don't think it's possible to make a really good game with it and the only reason they still use it (according to Bethesda themselves) is because it's easy to make games with it. Basically quantity over quality. That's not the stuff you wanna hear from a company like Bethesda.
 
Well that’s me told then. Off to see the therapist because I’m glad that a game that went against everything a series is supposed to be is turning out to be a disaster, and I harbor hopes that it will make the developers realize they need to do better and stick to what they’re good at and what got them their core audience.
 
As a side note, there have been many games that have come under heavy fire over the years, but I have never, in all my years, seen people get as defensive over a game as they have over FO76
 
As a side note, there have been many games that have come under heavy fire over the years, but I have never, in all my years, seen people get as defensive over a game as they have over FO76

Because it’s not EA or Activision.

If this game was a EA game the uproar would be a lot more huge. Funny enough some people on here seem to think Bethseda get more harsh treatment. I think it’s great they getting called out. Hopefully they also drop their shady review policies too where you not allowed to review their games before game is out.

Like I said early in this thread Bethseda have pushed a lot of single player games and I have praised them for that. Wolfenstein and Doom were enjoyable. But I’m not going to praise them for this mess or what’s followed it. You want to create a online only game for full price then you best do it properly or else put it on early release.
 
Before Gibby cries again.

https://gamerant.com/fallout-76-canvas-bags-given-influencers/





So they were to expensive to produce for people who actually paid for them. But not expensive enough to give them out for free. Makes sense. I’m sure the usual people will be spinning this and we all haters when all I’m pointing out how a company is treating their consumers like shit. It isn’t acceptable when EA or Activision do it. And it isn’t acceptable when Bethseda do it
The cost excuse is crap. I saw a post on reddit the other day (can't remember where) where someone posted a link of pretty much the exact same canvas bag but without the west tex logo selling for $3-5.
 
No offense but it's a bit mentally unhealthy to habour such a grudge against a company concerning a game you don't own or have any intention of buying. Perhaps the £60 you saved not buying the game can be spent on a session with a mental health professional finding the actual root of unhappiness in your lives.
Saying people have mental health problems for laughing at your favourite company :lol:
 
Before Gibby cries again.

https://gamerant.com/fallout-76-canvas-bags-given-influencers/





So they were to expensive to produce for people who actually paid for them. But not expensive enough to give them out for free. Makes sense. I’m sure the usual people will be spinning this and we all haters when all I’m pointing out how a company is treating their consumers like shit. It isn’t acceptable when EA or Activision do it. And it isn’t acceptable when Bethseda do it

I couldn’t believe this when I read it. You give the proper thing to influencers for free, but the fans who shell out so much money, it’s too expensive to produce for them. It’s just giving a giant middle finger to their fans.

To be honest, this whole project has seemed like an experiment in Bethesda exploring the boundaries of “It doesn’t matter what we do, they’ll still give us their money and defend us”

Very Vault-Tec like from them :nervous:
 
Me too. The more this bombs and sinks Bethesda's reputation, the more hopeful I am this serves as a wake up call for them to stop being so lazy and actually bother updating the engine. Glad they're finally being called out for it, brutally.
Bloody deserved too.
I can't fathom why any fanbase would see bugs as charming. The amount of excuses made for such lazy practices is insane.

Not meant as a comment for F76 as I don't play it and haven't looked too much into it, but Bethesda is probably the worst of the big studios at bug fixing. Hell, skyrims 1000th release ended up having the same buggy shit as before. It's also amazing how Bethesda are saved by modders fixing and expanding on their games while they try so hard to squeeze extra money out of the modding community.
 
Bloody deserved too.
I can't fathom why any fanbase would see bugs as charming. The amount of excuses made for such lazy practices is insane.

Not meant as a comment for F76 as I don't play it and haven't looked too much into it, but Bethesda is probably the worst of the big studios at bug fixing. Hell, skyrims 1000th release ended up having the same buggy shit as before. It's also amazing how Bethesda are saved by modders fixing and expanding on their games while they try so hard to squeeze extra money out of the modding community.

A community they then tried to rip off alongside Valve.
 
But why does it make you concerned.
They tried something different with Fallout and it didn't work, not yet anyway.
They've made your elder scrolls games and have delivered, so on that basis, a failed game and you're concerned?

I get that the engine is outdated etc, I agree, but to be honest, Bethesda games have never looked that great, and although graphics are nice, the gameplay is what counts, which so far, for the Elder Scrolls series, has been good, no?

I'm concerned about the direction of their main franchises. I enjoyed Skyrim but let's not forget that is a 7 year old game. Since then, they released a dumbed-down Fallout 4 that I consider very mediocre, a million other versions of Skyrim and the PR clusterfeck that is Fallout 76. I can't comment on the quality of that game because I haven't played it, but their response to a lot of the criticism has been discouraging, or like with the canvas bag fiasco, downright depressing. The other stuff they've done in terms of their main franchises has been Elder Scrolls online and announcing a mobile game.

So yeah, none of these things exactly point to them still being able to deliver the sort of immersive single-player experience I want to see from Elder Scrolls and Fallout. Or perhaps it's not a question of being able to, rather than having their priorities somewhere else. If you put all these things together, how can you not be concerned?
 
Common sense has prevailed. People will finally be getting their bags.

See what happens when people speak up @Grib.
 
So apparently there’s been a massive data leak of customers information :lol:

FO76 is growing from dumpster fire to forest fire :lol:
 
So apparently there’s been a massive data leak of customers information :lol:

FO76 is growing from dumpster fire to forest fire :lol:

Pray tell, what has a data breach actually got to do with the game?

Did FO76 do something to you directly? It seems to have cause you a great deal of angst, especially for someone who indicated they had no interest in it from when they first showed.

It seems like it's your girlfriend trying something new that she's never tried before and you don't like it or want to be part of it. She isn't forcing you to do it but your scared she might leave you forever for this new experience, things will never be the same! Obviously this isn't the case and she will still enjoy doing all the old stuff you guys have always done, I mean that's what your relationship was built on isn't it. It's okay that your not into it but don't take it to heart, you don't need to bad mouth it to make sure she will still do the same stuff you've always done together
 
Pray tell, what has a data breach actually got to do with the game?

Did FO76 do something to you directly? It seems to have cause you a great deal of angst, especially for someone who indicated they had no interest in it from when they first showed.

It seems like it's your girlfriend trying something new that she's never tried before and you don't like it or want to be part of it. She isn't forcing you to do it but your scared she might leave you forever for this new experience, things will never be the same! Obviously this isn't the case and she will still enjoy doing all the old stuff you guys have always done, I mean that's what your relationship was built on isn't it. It's okay that your not into it but don't take it to heart, you don't need to bad mouth it to make sure she will still do the same stuff you've always done together

Nothing to do with the game at all, I just happened to see this come up on r/All and thought it was funny. I haven’t followed any news of the game since the bag debacle, but this coming up prompted me to check out the sub and found that they also made quite a few changes to the game in their most recent patch without telling any of the players about the significant changes, and that has ruffled quite a few feathers, if you wanted to talk about how it influences the game.

It’s comical to me just how many things have gone wrong since the launch. You could be forgiven for thinking someone inside Bethesda is trying to sabotage them, the way things have gone. It hasn’t caused me angst in quite a while, I’m just enjoying laughing from the sidelines as a spectator.

And there is absolutely no comparison between a real life relationship and a video game. I’m under no obligation to support a videogame developer if they’re going in a direction I don’t like. It’s not a shared relationship like my girlfriend where we both care about each other, Bethesda and I are strictly a one way road, where I like them and they don’t care about me. I don’t have to allow a videogame developer to “find themselves” and if the videogame developer chooses to go in a direction that I don’t agree with, heading in the direction that a lot of companies are going, then I am well within my rights to hope that they fall flat on their face and reconsider what they’re doing.
 
I’m kinda glad this game is failing. If you’ve watched Bethesda’s E3 conferences over the years, you can tell theyre getting more pandering to the diversity for the sake of diversity stuff as well as making dumb moves and not acknowledging them.

I wish Todd would put more RPG in his games rather than increasingly dilute them with action. There’s a reason why a shit ton of people love Morrowind and New Vegas in the Elder Scrolls series and Fallout series respectively.
 
Did FO76 do something to you directly? It seems to have cause you a great deal of angst, especially for someone who indicated they had no interest in it from when they first showed./
@Cloud7
6th post in this thread. He's a massive fallout fan. So much so that he's actively reading all the negative news to validate some weird agenda he has against the game.

Doesn't realize that with all this crap, Bethesda most likely won't release another fallout game for a decade so the fans forget this in time and new fans hop on.

I don't see how you can call yourself a fallout fan if you actively take enjoyment seeing the company struggle. I'm saddened to see fallout 76 have all these problems because I really like fallout and I'm concerned for Starfield and TES6. I wouldn't respect anyone who wanted United to fail, find it amusing we keep sacking managers and lose just because he doesn't agree with the formation on the pitch.
 
@Cloud7
6th post in this thread. He's a massive fallout fan. So much so that he's actively reading all the negative news to validate some weird agenda he has against the game.

Doesn't realize that with all this crap, Bethesda most likely won't release another fallout game for a decade so the fans forget this in time and new fans hop on.

I don't see how you can call yourself a fallout fan if you actively take enjoyment seeing the company struggle. I'm saddened to see fallout 76 have all these problems because I really like fallout and I'm concerned for Starfield and TES6. I wouldn't respect anyone who wanted United to fail, find it amusing we keep sacking managers and lose just because he doesn't agree with the formation on the pitch.

With the projected timelines for Starfield and ES6 we weren’t going to get another Fallout for a decade anyway.

This isn’t even their main studio doing FO76, it’s Bethesda Austin, a fairly new branch of BGS specifically for this game. Worst case scenario if this is a disaster is the Austin studio closes down, but FO76 failing won’t affect Starfield and ES6. What will affect them is if those games aren’t up to scratch of their own accord.

I have said time and time again that I do not want Bethesda to go the way of these money hungry companies that focus games on multiplayer and microtransactions. No matter what they say about not abandoning single player, they are a corporation at the end of the day. If the FO76 project turned out to be a huge success then of course they would try to steer their future games in that direction, so yes I will be glad if it fails. I’m not too bothered if you don’t respect my opinion on this.
 
Nothing to do with the game at all, I just happened to see this come up on r/All and thought it was funny. I haven’t followed any news of the game since the bag debacle, but this coming up prompted me to check out the sub and found that they also made quite a few changes to the game in their most recent patch without telling any of the players about the significant changes, and that has ruffled quite a few feathers, if you wanted to talk about how it influences the game.

It’s comical to me just how many things have gone wrong since the launch. You could be forgiven for thinking someone inside Bethesda is trying to sabotage them, the way things have gone. It hasn’t caused me angst in quite a while, I’m just enjoying laughing from the sidelines as a spectator.

And there is absolutely no comparison between a real life relationship and a video game. I’m under no obligation to support a videogame developer if they’re going in a direction I don’t like. It’s not a shared relationship like my girlfriend where we both care about each other, Bethesda and I are strictly a one way road, where I like them and they don’t care about me. I don’t have to allow a videogame developer to “find themselves” and if the videogame developer chooses to go in a direction that I don’t agree with, heading in the direction that a lot of companies are going, then I am well within my rights to hope that they fall flat on their face and reconsider what they’re doing.

She's already said she plans to see that next chic flick with you, don't get so upset.

Expectations
It's a fallout/Bethesda game;
It doesn't look great (check)
It has bugs on release (check)
They even said as someone pointed out there would be problems on release, this may not be ideal but they've tried to manage the expectations on that

Everyone wants a nice polished game on release, it is what it is, then you have reviews like the one you posted originally that's as dramatic as the reviewers expectations on what the game would be are fantasy. Wonder how many clicks he got for that

Call me a fanboy and my post shit all you want, I assume it helps with that complex

I still fail to see why you're so offended by a game you've no interest in, but in truth i really care that much
 
I'll clearly admit I want it to fail hard only because it might wake Bethesda, and others, up a bit.

That gobshite, Todd Howard, was joking on stage at E3 about how their games are buggy. It isn't charming, it's poor craftmanship that they seem okay with laughing off but still charge a premium price for. Feck defending that.

Bomb, fail and if they're sensible, learn.
 
This data breach is actually quite amazing. There must be people at Bethesda being asked some serious questions right now. The people who spent $200 have so far:

Received a cheap nylon bag in place of the advertised canvas bag
Found out that canvas bags were given out for free at an advertising event
Been offered $5 in compensation in in-game currency. Which won't even buy a virtual bag in-game
Finally been given a way to apply for a replacement canvas bag
Logged on to claim their canvas bag to find out that they can see pictures for proof of purchase, hand-written names, Bethesda.net username, receipt, shipping address and phone numbers of other applicants from around the world when submitting.
Have the above details published on the internet
 
Massive bump!

Anyone still playing this? Started playing this on pc about a month ago and been finding it good fun generally. Feel a lot of the criticism it got when it was released has mostly been fixed by now. Plenty of players still playing it as well.