Facebook, Amazon etc....

Sounds like a great place to work.

When Acton reached Zuckerberg’s office, a Facebook lawyer was present. Acton made clear that the disagreement—Facebook wanted to make money through ads, and he wanted to make it from high-volume users—meant he could get his full allocation of stock. Facebook’s legal team disagreed, saying that WhatsApp had only been exploring monetization initiatives, not “implementing” them. Zuckerberg, for his part, had a simple message: “He was like, This is probably the last time you’ll ever talk to me.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyo...efacebook-and-why-he-left-850-million-behind/
 
MadMike said:
I see no correlation between the answer and the question, but that question is so bullshit that it means little anyway. Do you have more confidence in philanthropy, the courts, amazon or religion?
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Well yeah I expect some horse shit answer like the military or the church but not a company that pays nothing in tax and makes it's workers piss in bottles.
 
Sweet Square said:
Well yeah I expect some horse shit answer like the military or the church but not a company that pays nothing in tax and makes it's workers piss in bottles.
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"Do you have confidence in Amazon?" What does that mean? I mean I have very high confidence in the service they provide. Their ability to delivery the products quickly, in my returns being processed efficiently and getting my money back, in getting things right as a business from my customer POV. Do I have confidence in them being ethical? No, but is that even the question asked?

It's a shitty questionnaire because it asks a very broad question, subject to interpretation, about a vary wide range of subjects.

PS. It ranked really high for Republicans too.
 
I guess folk have different expectations from Amazon and the courts. Amazon is better at delivering people what they expect.
 
MadMike said:
"Do you have confidence in Amazon?" What does that mean? I mean I have very high confidence in the service they provide. Their ability to delivery the products quickly, in my returns being processed efficiently and getting my money back, in getting things right as a business from my customer POV. Do I have confidence in them being ethical? No, but is that even the question asked?
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You would think people would you know take in consideration the ethical side of amazon.
MadMike said:
PS. It ranked really high for Republicans too.
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Er... yeah I'm not expecting much from these lot so I'm not sure what your point is here.
 
Sweet Square said:
You would think people would you know take in consideration the ethical side of amazon.

Er... yeah I'm not expecting much from these lot so I'm not sure what your point is here.
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My only point is that you're assuming it's ranked on ethics. I really don't think it is.
 
Yesterday we had a delivery at ten to nine, at night!

Asked the guy how often this happens and he says it’s more and more frequent and he’d been doing deliveries since 8am.

These companies disgust me!
 
Wonder if that leaked info about the second Amazon HQ is true?
The Post ran a story saying Crystal City, in northern Virginia had been selected. It’s right next to the Pentagon and across the bridge from DC.
It was one of the 20 short listed cities to vie for Amazon’s business. Supposedly 50,000 workers in that new HQ.
 
The poetry and brief life of a Foxconn worker: Xu Lizhi (1990-2014)
https://libcom.org/blog/xulizhi-fox...CcDz7fLYCgXb7N32H7lZ8CJ1ST6A7lhHdRG6gzC5lFYvQ

In 2010, Xu Lizhi went [from his home in rural Jieyang, Guangdong] to work at [a] Foxconn [electronics factory in Shenzhen], beginning life on the assembly line. From 2012 until February of this year [2014], over 30 of his writings were published in Foxconn’s internal newspaper Foxconn People (富士康人), including poems, essays, film reviews, and news commentaries {…} Xu posted the titles of these writings on his blog in a post called “The Maturation Given to Me by a Newspaper,” indicating his gratitude for this platform for his literary aspirations. The first time his friend Zheng (pseudonym) read Xu’s poetry, he was astonished to discover that this young man could be so talented. Henceforth, Zheng always looked for Xu’s writings in the newspaper.

Zheng’s impression was that Xu was a shy boy, “of few words, but not silent.” “Xu asserted his convictions, but he seemed quite solitary – very much the air of a poet.” When Zheng heard of Xu’s suicide, his entire [week-long] break for [China’s] National Day was shrouded in grief. He could not go outside for days.

Turning feelings into poems; fearing they be read by family

Most of Xu’s early poems were descriptions of life on the assembly line. In “Workshop, My Youth Was Stranded Here,” he described his conditions at the time: “Beside the assembly line, tens of thousands of workers [dagongzhe]1line up like words on a page/ 'Faster, hurry up!'/ Standing among them, I hear the supervisor bark.” He felt that “Once you’ve entered the workshop/ The only choice is submission,” and that his youth was coldly slipping away, so he could only “Watch it being ground away day and night/ Pressed, polished, molded/ Into a few measly bills, so-called wages.”

At first Xu Lizhi found it difficult to adapt to the constant switching between dayshifts and nightshifts. In another poem, he described himself by the assembly line “standing straight like iron, hands like flight,” “How many days, how many nights/ Did I – just like that – standing, fall asleep?” He described his working life as exhausting, “Flowing through my veins, finally reaching the tip of my pen/ Taking root in the paper/ These words can be read only by the hearts of migrant workers."
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https://ny.curbed.com/2018/11/16/18098589/amazon-hq2-nyc-queens-long-island-city-explained

What is Amazon getting?

Amazon will build a campus of at least 4 million square feet near the Anable Basin on the East River waterfront, on a site that’s partially owned by Plaxall Realty and partially owned by the city. But rather than going through the city’s extensive land use review process, known as ULURP, the state will take the lead and override local regulations on the lot, currently zoned for manufacturing space.

To facilitate the necessary rezoning for the project, the state will make use of a General Project Plan (GPP), which was used in recent years to advance the Javits Center expansion, Atlantic Yards, and Moynihan Station. (The GPP includes an environmental review and input from the City Planning Commission and local community board, though they’re nonbinding).

The agreement comes with a number of incentives: Specifically, Amazon will receive $897 million from the city’s Relocation and Employment Assistance Program (REAP) and $386 million from the Industrial & Commercial Abatement Program (ICAP). It will receive an additional $505 million in a capital grant and $1.2 billion in “Excelsior” credits if its job creation goals are met. That brings the total amount of public funds granted to $2.988 billion—in other words, the city and state will pay Amazon $48,000 per job.

Amazon could also earn even more tax breaks separate from the city and state subsidies: The census tract in Long Island City where HQ2 (or HQ3) will be built is designated as an opportunity zone under a provision of the so-called Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, the tax overhaulPresident Trump signed into law almost a year ago.

Opportunity zones, the brainchild of Silicon Valley financier Sean Parker, allow people to invest capital gains—the profit made from the sale of an asset like a house, stock, or even a painting—in “distressed” areas and defer taxes on those gains until 2026.

Amazon will also lease 1 million square feet at One Court Square, also known as the Citigroup building; the banking firm will vacate its space in 2020.

What is New York getting?

According to the state, Amazon will generate $27.5 billion in state and city revenue over 25 years, a 9:1 ratio of revenue to subsidies—an arrangement Cuomo called “the highest rate of return for an economic incentive program the state has ever offered.” This is predicated on the assumption that after the company begins hiring in 2019, Amazon will create 25,000 jobs over the next decade (with up to 40,000 when all is said and done), with an average salary of $150,000. The state estimates the project will facilitate 1,300 construction jobs and 107,000 in total direct and indirect jobs.

In order to fund local infrastructure—streets, sidewalks, open space and the like—Amazon will utilize the city’s PILOT (payment in lieu of taxes) program, estimated by Deputy Mayor Alicia Glen at $600 to $650 million over four decades; the specifics of how those funds will be allocated will be decided upon via community engagement.

Amazon has also agreed to allocate $5 million for workforce development and to host job training sessions and job fairs at the nearby Queensbridge Houses, although no hiring guarantees were made in the memorandum. Amazon will also build a new school with as many as 600 seats on its campus, along with a “tech startup incubator.”

And then there’s the helipad: The memorandum allows for the construction of a private helicopter landing, which will be limited to 120 days of use each year.
 
Like the choice of NY, but not Long Island City. Rentals are already absurd in LIC and this would only make it worse. Traffic will become horrible and I'm not sure the subway can cater to another 40,000+ people.

They could have moved it a bit inside to Bushwick or even Queens and help move the gentrification faster.
 
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