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Anyway, in response to one of the questions, I don't think Barca would turn down £40m.
Let's see if they will accept our third bid then, I take it as you are sure that they will accept it.
 
I'm not sure how you can't see the difference between what you're trying to qualify as being two potentially very similar situations.
Did I say they are the same? Just random question, since some of you here are so sure that every player has a price, and Barca would definitely sell their 'squad' player at a reasonably good price, which amused me a lot.
 
Anyone believe Barca would really need to sell? Or rather, let me ask you this, at what price you think Barca would say yes? Or let me put it this way, if someone offer us 25m for Jones (fair price for someone play significantly less game and lesser role than Fabregas), would you willing to sell? Since he is not our first choice too.

This belongs in the stupid posts thread in gens..
 
Did I say they are the same? Just random question, since some of you here are so sure that every player has a price, and Barca would definitely sell their 'squad' player at a reasonably good price, which amused me a lot.

Well it bemused me.

FYI, we wouldn't sell Jones for £25m, that's why your whole logic is so odd.
 
Well it bemused me.

FYI, we wouldn't sell Jones for £25m, that's why your whole logic is so odd.
So why do you(or some of you) think Barca would sell Fabregas for 40m? Odd thinking.
 
Anyway, in response to one of the questions, I don't think Barca would turn down £40m.


I think they would. They'll probably want to push us to nearer £50m, but if they are willing to accept £40m then I think it's a good price for him.
 
I think they would. They'll probably want to push us to nearer £50m, but if they are willing to accept £40m then I think it's a good price for him.
I am doubtful, I still don't see why Barca would desperately sell for some 10-15m profit, but lets see.
 
I am doubtful, I still don't see why Barca would desperately sell for some 10-15m profit, but lets see.


If they got a very good bid then they'd perhaps accept it and use the money to strengthen elsewhere. The problem is though, I still doubt Fabregas wants to leave. He's a Barca fan, wanted the move for years, and while his chances as a central midfielder have perhaps been limited at times, as Xavi ages Fabregas will begin to take centre stage in their midfield. He'll earn as much there as he would here, if not more. He's in better weather, he won't have to deal with an Arsenal fan backlash, and won't have to adjust to a new team. The move is perfect for our midfield, but I don't think it'd make much sense for him to be honest.
 
Noticed the thread was recieving a post every few seconds to find out that people are discussing a transfer fee that hasn't even happened. Sigh..

The Comminity Shield can't come soon enough.
 
You are illiterate and draw references from things nothing to do with the conversation, I suggest you don't talk to two people at once, it highlights your idiocy.
I suggest you to read carefully and do not just look at the surface without thinking, it highlights your lack of foresight in conversation.
 
How are we feeling about our chances now then?

I literally haven't a clue, probably leaning towards not happening though
 
I think his drop has been more to do with the system he is in rather than his actual ability. The English game suits him more imo, he is 26 so he is a t the right age. £46 million might be slightly overpriced but I think that maybe the going rate these days for the best players...
But a rising scale goes hand-in-hand with par or improved performance, and that's definitely not happened with Fabregas - although the possibility is remote, he may not even be the same player he was when he left the PL and there's no recent evidence to say that he is.

We're looking at Fabregas and hoping he can replicate his form from two years ago, and currently, as things stand with his position in the Barca team, he isn't one of the best players.

I'm talking about this from the POV of simply buying a player who hasn't really had a chance to show his wares for a while. I agree with others that he is a perfect fit for us as I believe he can get back to the level he once had, but it's by no means a dead certainty and when you push past a certain amount, I think you're looking at players who are doing the business right now and are hot property because of that and not what they once were a couple of years ago.
 
If any more irrelevant spasticity goes on in this thread I'm just going to ban those involved.

If you've nothing to say about this attempted transfer, shut the feck up.
 
If they got a very good bid then they'd perhaps accept it and use the money to strengthen elsewhere. The problem is though, I still doubt Fabregas wants to leave. He's a Barca fan, wanted the move for years, and while his chances as a central midfielder have perhaps been limited at times, as Xavi ages Fabregas will begin to take centre stage in their midfield. He'll earn as much there as he would here, if not more. He's in better weather, he won't have to deal with an Arsenal fan backlash, and won't have to adjust to a new team. The move is perfect for our midfield, but I don't think it'd make much sense for him to be honest.
Thats where I am confused at. On the contrary, I tend to believe that Fabregas would want to come here, hence we have been so vocal about our interest and keep putting strong bid there, it's unlikely that we haven't receive any green light from Fabregas' camp beforehand. On the other hand, why do many of us here just assume Barca would sell him at good price, without even questioning? I mean, other than those trivial statement that everyone has a price?
 
On the other hand, why do many of us here just assume Barca would sell him at good price, without even questioning? I mean, other than those trivial statement that everyone has a price?

Because it may be trivial, but it's true. The questionable assumption is the level of that price - everybody here is convinced it's £40m, but it coul easily be a fair bit more.
 
anyone else believing we won't have signed a new player when the league kicks off in 3 weeks ?
 
Because it may be trivial, but it's true. The questionable assumption is the level of that price - everybody here is convinced it's £40m, but it coul easily be a fair bit more.
The brings the question that who would Barca buy to replace Fabregas, if they sell to us for 40m. Their midfield will be getting extremely thin with Fabregas and Thiago gone, and they probably need to splash around 30m for someone with similar quality, who may not adapt perfectly well to Barca system. So they are probably looking at around 10m net profit for all that fuss. Sorry I just can't see it happening at that price, after adding all that up.
 
anyone else believing we won't have signed a new player when the league kicks off in 3 weeks ?
Yes. All this shillyshallying around is United's way of not letting on they have no money to buy anyone. We can't be seen not to be buying so we just go all out for a player who doesn't want to leave the club he's at and a club that doesn't want to sell the said player. It's convincing, works every time and costs us nothing.

Sorry if I sound cynical and depressive but I've been wanting us to buy a good midfielder since the summer of 2009. I've held up fairly well for 4 years but now I'm thinking this pussyfoooting around trying to buy players and failing to do so is mighty suspicious.
 
Yes. All this shillyshallying around is United's way of not letting on they have no money to buy anyone. We can't be seen not to be buying so we just go all out for a player who doesn't want to leave the club he's at and a club that doesn't want to sell the said player. It's convincing, works every time and costs us nothing.

Sorry if I sound cynical and depressive but I've been wanting us to buy a good midfielder since the summer of 2009. I've held up fairly well for 4 years but now I'm thinking this pussyfoooting around trying to buy players and failing to do so is mighty suspicious.

How can you be depressive after the last four years United have had? Some of our best ever league runs.
 
Yes. All this shillyshallying around is United's way of not letting on they have no money to buy anyone. We can't be seen not to be buying so we just go all out for a player who doesn't want to leave the club he's at and a club that doesn't want to sell the said player. It's convincing, works every time and costs us nothing.

Sorry if I sound cynical and depressive but I've been wanting us to buy a good midfielder since the summer of 2009. I've held up fairly well for 4 years but now I'm thinking this pussyfoooting around trying to buy players and failing to do so is mighty suspicious.

RVP last year, despite Juventus and City being in for him, with all their financial clout.

The idea that a lack of money holds us back is very outdated. You could argue that we're too miserly with what we've got, but to simply argue that we don't have the money to spend is ridiculous.
 
anyone else believing we won't have signed a new player when the league kicks off in 3 weeks ?

Odds on.

When Fergie used to say we wouldn't be signing anyone else, we usually knew that meant a signing was imminent.

When Moyes says signings will definitely be coming...we suspect the opposite.
 
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