There are far more questions i'd be interested in asking him then about a fringe player who's barely featured, as would most United fans I'd guess.
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There are far more questions i'd be interested in asking him then about a fringe player who's barely featured, as would most United fans I'd guess.
Or are they just obsessed with some of this England lot. Pellegrini basically had to tell them he wasn't going to discuss Joe Hart further in his presser today.
One of the journalists a few weeks back (from the Guardian I think) wrote about how Moyes wasn't a fan of both Da Silva twins. It amazes me how they don't care to follow up bits of information they've 'heard'.
But fair enough if we're not their target audience. Even Moyes has said to them a few times something along the lines of "I keep telling you but you keep asking me" re Rooney. It's repetitive bollocks.
One of the journalists a few weeks back (from the Guardian I think) wrote about how Moyes wasn't a fan of both Da Silva twins. It amazes me how they don't care to follow up bits of information they've 'heard'.
But fair enough if we're not their target audience. Even Moyes has said to them a few times something along the lines of "I keep telling you but you keep asking me" re Rooney. It's repetitive bollocks.
Fabio's contract is meant to be running out in the summer, so maybe that angle would be of interest to the hacks? If he had a decade left on his deal but wasn't being played then that's one thing, but we're looking at losing a promising (though largely unproven) player for nothing in the summer. Given how they like to report our financial situation and transfer impotence, then that might be something they could ramble on about?
Fabio doesn't interest the reporters. For them it's just another case of a kid not making it at United, nothing special.
Okay, Fabio must be dead, or completely frozen out. Or injured.
Smalling at fb is frustrating!
Smalling at fb is frustrating!
Or just not that good.
Smallings doing well, odd criticism.
Evra on the other hand.
Smallings doing well, odd criticism.
Evra on the other hand.
Aye, it's LB he should be looking at. He could not be doing worse than Evra, we are just lucky Lennon doesn't have an end product.
Does this thread need to be bumped every time he isn't picked? It'd be a surprise if he was involved. It's not surprising he isn't picked. He's 3rd/4th choice for both full back positions.
It'd be like bumping the Zaha or Bebe threads every game they aren't picked.
It'd be like bumping the Zaha or Bebe threads every game they aren't picked.
Didn't you know that evil Moyes has a vendetta against Brazilians and hates the Da Silva's?
SAF didn't rate Fabio and neither does Moyes.
He's one of those "gets better and better the more he doesn't play" players.
He's one of those "gets better and better the more he doesn't play" players.
I've been a doubter to this point, but I'm starting to find it odd. He's naturally right footed and has played at RB, and he would offer so much more going forward. Smalling gets beat fairly often anyway, I don't think Fabio would do worse.
No need to rewrite history, SAF certainly did rate Fabio.
Which is why he loaned him out last season and replaced him with Buttner presumably.
Probably from having watched him at right back for Manchester United in the past. That's my guess.
Really? 1 appearance this season? Conclusive.
Smalling is doing fine. Certainly doesn't need to be replaced. And definitely not by Fabio.
Crazy suggestion.
Smalling is doing fine. Certainly doesn't need to be replaced. And definitely not by Fabio.
Crazy suggestion.
He wanted to give Fabio a year of first team football and to do so he needed someone cheap to act as Evra's cover. Its not the first time we brought Dutch footballers to act as cover. VDG and Jordi Cruyff are prime example of that
Or because he was 22 and SAF thought regular football (QPR had a manager change that season - it didn't work out as well as it could have) would help him and replaced him with a cheap backup option?
We had 2 LBs. One a 31 year old not in the most sparkling form of his career. Fergie could have given him plenty of games, if he thought he was good enough.
Considering our backup plan (Buttner on the left and Smalling on the right) he certainly deserves a chance doesn't he?
The gap between Evra and any of our backup players was too big for them to seriously compete for a first team place. Also SAF was getting more reluctant to rely on kids which also explains why a certain Pogba was not deemed good enough to be given a first team run in a CM filled with stars like Ando and Cleverley + we waited till the very last moment to give a new contract to Januzaj.
My only concern about Fabio is his negative injury prone problems. I wont be surprised if he does a Rossi or a Pogba who went on becoming special players while we're stuck with lesser talented players such the striker with Gary Neville's finishing touch or the fat Brazilian CM. Imagine if Fabio went on to become a world class fullback at some other club while we were busy paying ridiculous money for (guess what!) another overrated Everton player.
A loan move is hardly a vote of no confidence.
SAF doesn't rate Fábio, yet he played him against Valencia, Schalke, Everton, Arsenal, and Barcelona. Nonsense.
How many years ago was that though? He used him less and less and felt comfortable enough that he had better options to loan him out of a season.
Fabio started TWO league games in his last season under SAF, before SAF bought Buttner and loaned Fabio out.
But yeah, SAF was just playing the long game of course
Face it, Fabio just isn't that good. He was in and out of the QPR team for feck sake.
But yeah, SAF was just playing the long game of course
Face it, Fabio just isn't that good. He was in and out of the QPR team for feck sake.
It was in 10-11.
Fabio started TWO league games in his last season under SAF, before SAF bought Buttner and loaned Fabio out.
But yeah, SAF was just playing the long game of course
Face it, Fabio just isn't that good. He was in and out of the QPR team for feck sake.
In that season, Fábio picked up an Achilles injury, which kept him out for two months. He rarely featured after that, which isn't really his fault. And he picked up a hamstring injury last season, which kept him out for three months. You have also not included key facts in your argument. Fábio started in quite a number of crucial games in 10-11, Fergie clearly trusted his ability, otherwise he would have played other players. If Fábio isn't that good, then he would have never started important games for us, and he certainly wouldn't have been loaned out to QPR.
Quite a number of crucial games?
He's played about 20 games in total for Utd.
He hasn't progressed at all in 3 years and Buttner is still preferred to him, by the people who actually get to see him play regularly.
Whatever you think of him to say he should be starting at RB ahead of Smalling right now is ridiculous.
He's played about 20 games in total for Utd.
He hasn't progressed at all in 3 years and Buttner is still preferred to him, by the people who actually get to see him play regularly.
Whatever you think of him to say he should be starting at RB ahead of Smalling right now is ridiculous.
SAF never really used him at LB. His one true run in the first team came at right back.
SAF chose to loan him and buy a crap Buttner rather than use him as a backup to Evra. There were several occasions over the years when Evra was going through a tough spell and needed a rest and Fabio rarely ever came in. I'd take that as "not rating" personally.
I think you are close to the answer..At one point he was rated, but injuries etc have meant that he hasn't developed as well as hoped, and Rafael and others have since established themselves ahead of him in the pecking order.
That doesn't take anything away from my point. He played against West Ham, Everton, Arsenal, Chelsea, Blackburn, and Barcelona, all in 10-11. Fergie trusted him.
Trusted him 3 years ago.
Kieran Richardson played a few games for us at LB too, maybe we should stick in a cheeky bid to bring him back.
Fabio would be a better bet at RB than Smalling especially if Moyes is going to stick with Valencia on the wing.
Maybe, anyone other than Buttner/Smalling at the moment. Richardson is also not as talented as Fábio.
But seriously, it's ridiculous. Our back up right back is Smalling. While he can be good at times, he's very inconsistent. He looks nervous on the ball and gets turned easily, as displayed on a number of occasions this season. More so the fact that Fábio was good against Crystal Palace. I see no reason why he should have not started against Norwich, for example.
Most people have Valencia down as our best player with Rooney today?! Smalling was good defensively and his passing fine. He didn't need to overlap today as for at least half the game Valencia had the beating of Vertonghen comfortably, the only thing that let him down was his final pass.
That's a good one. I reckon Richardson played more games at LB for us than Fabio did under Fergie.
Valencia was poor, created absolutely feck all.
Bullshit. He was out main attacking threat, and caused them all sorts of problems. As I said, it was his final pass that let him down.
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