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It would be a nice team if we could get:

Defenders
Fabinho
Herrera Pogba
Mkhitaryan Griezmann Perisic
But I really think he'll be a City player :(
 
Not many will agree with that. Mendy on mbappe still on the table.

I don't think we will sign Mbappe, I liked Mendy but it's not the end of the world if we don't sign him.

Few months back I said Fabinho and Silva are the 2 players I want most from Monaco and I will stick to it.
 
-----------Griezmann------------

--Rashford-------------Mkhitaryan---

------Pogba----------Herrera--------

-------------Fabinho----------------

I think that's how we might line up.
I keep seeing Rashford in so many lineups on here. There's no way he's going to be our first choice striker going in to next season.
 
Potentially looking at:

Ederson
Walker - Kompany - Stones - Mendy
Gundogan
B. Silva - De Bruyne - D. Silva - Sané
Aguero​

vs.​

De Gea
Valencia - Bailly - Lindelof - (Linked)?
Herrera - Fabinho - Pogba
Mkhitaryan - Griezmann - Perisic
Gonna be some fiercely competitive derbies next season.
 
I just think the likes of Matic who sit in front of the defence, can offer so much when Chelsea have teams pinned back. Clever passing between the lines.. That's the sort of DM I would prefer. Admittedly I have not seen Fabinho a lot but him and Bakayoko were out of the game V Juventus. Mouthino came on and done more than the both combined.

I think you're underestimating Fabinho's attacking strengths. He's more attack-minded than Matic.

Matic plays in a midfield two and I'm fairly confident we'll lineup with three in midfield most of the time - with Fabinho shielding, that gives more license to Herrera and/or Pogba to stitch attacks together. Think of Fabinho as the 'water carrier' - players like him are integral to the success of a team. They're the bridge between defence and attack. He can do the job perfectly.
 
Like I said, you've compared the best season against the worst seasons, so it evens up a lot more the wider you look. I would take Modric over Herrera any day, regardless of what Squawka says about these criteria. On what basis is Verratti superior, according to your line of reasoning?

There's a lot left to discuss actually, and I dont have anything personal against him - look at my subsequent post - I've said the majority of our team isnt up to scratch. We've had two world class managers finish 4th, 5th and 6th.

We always used to say that the table doesnt lie when we won the title with Fergie, and we cant go back on that now - how are teams like Spurs and Arsenal consistently finishing above us in the table? Our squad, Herrera included, isnt as good as it's being made out to be.
The table doesn't lie we have serious lacked goals this season from our wide players and our Attacking mid hence why we are linked to Griezmann, Perisic etc.

We haven't been good enough but lacking top quality in areas like LB, RW and even CM with us being forced to play players like Fellaini and an aging Carrick who should be squad players, not starters.

Herrera is being head hunted by Barcelona's new manager, its not to sit him on the bench is it?

I'm not in a state of dilusion about our squad needs 5 players without a doubt because Moyes and LvG spent badly during their tenure here but Herrera stays and retains his starting spot as does Pogba, Valencia, De Gea, Bailey the players who have constantly performed.

Hopefully Rojo, Shaw and Ibrahimovic recover fully and we can go again only this time with players like Griezmann, Fabinho, Perisic, Keane etc.

What you fail to realise is we went unbeaten for a reason, we had one if the best defenses in the league for a reason. We also created plenty of chances but we just didn't take them we lacked goals and a depth that will be fixed.
 
Really hope these rumours are true. Would be a cracking signing and a massive upgrade on our starting 11 ahead of Carrick / Fellaini.
 
The table doesn't lie we have serious lacked goals this season from our wide players and our Attacking mid hence why we are linked to Griezmann, Perisic etc.

We haven't been good enough but lacking top quality in areas like LB, RW and even CM with us being forced to play players like Fellaini and an aging Carrick who should be squad players, not starters.

Herrera is being head hunted by Barcelona's new manager, its not to sit him on the bench is it?

I'm not in a state of dilusion about our squad needs 5 players without a doubt because Moyes and LvG spent badly during their tenure here but Herrera stays and retains his starting spot as does Pogba, Valencia, De Gea, Bailey the players who have constantly performed.

Hopefully Rojo, Shaw and Ibrahimovic recover fully and we can go again only this time with players like Griezmann, Fabinho, Perisic, Keane etc.

What you fail to realise is we went unbeaten for a reason, we had one if the best defenses in the league for a reason. We also created plenty of chances but we just didn't take them we lacked goals and a depth that will be fixed.
I see what you're saying, but the part about Barca's interest is misplaced, i said this in another thread, their transfer strategy has been all over the place the last few years, and players like Arda, Gomes, Alcacer, Digne, Vermaelen, who were supposed to be fighting for starting roles were found not to meet the required standard. There's no telling how Herrera would fare at Barca, especially as a La Liga winner like Arda has struggled to even make an impact.

Like I said, I dont doubt that Herrera retains his place. Fabinho-Herrera-Pogba will most likely be our starting 3 next season. But, out of those three, if we were looking to move up a level, who would be the one replaced? I would say Herrera, as (and you agree) someone like Verratti could come in, and instantly improve the lineup.
 
Getting Fabinho would be the most important step for our improvement in my opinion - even ahead of a potential Griezman arrival.

He's excactly what we need most and there are almost no players fitting this profile available. However, still don't trust this at all..
 
I keep seeing Rashford in so many lineups on here. There's no way he's going to be our first choice striker going in to next season.

I think he'll play in a lot of games. Mourinho and his coaching staff love the guy. It's Lingard who'll miss out.
 
I see what you're saying, but the part about Barca's interest is misplaced, i said this in another thread, their transfer strategy has been all over the place the last few years, and players like Arda, Gomes, Alcacer, Digne, Vermaelen, who were supposed to be fighting for starting roles were found not to meet the required standard. There's no telling how Herrera would fare at Barca, especially as a La Liga winner like Arda has struggled to even make an impact.

Like I said, I dont doubt that Herrera retains his place. Fabinho-Herrera-Pogba will most likely be our starting 3 next season. But, out of those three, if we were looking to move up a level, who would be the one replaced? I would say Herrera, as (and you agree) someone like Verratti could come in, and instantly improve the lineup.

Here I disagree, Herrera all round game is valuable when you have Pogba and Fabinho. He has the ability to support both players efficiently, I would only replace him with someone like Marchisio or Vidal.
 
The table doesn't lie we have serious lacked goals this season from our wide players and our Attacking mid hence why we are linked to Griezmann, Perisic etc.

We haven't been good enough but lacking top quality in areas like LB, RW and even CM with us being forced to play players like Fellaini and an aging Carrick who should be squad players, not starters.

Herrera is being head hunted by Barcelona's new manager, its not to sit him on the bench is it?


I'm not in a state of dilusion about our squad needs 5 players without a doubt because Moyes and LvG spent badly during their tenure here but Herrera stays and retains his starting spot as does Pogba, Valencia, De Gea, Bailey the players who have constantly performed.

Hopefully Rojo, Shaw and Ibrahimovic recover fully and we can go again only this time with players like Griezmann, Fabinho, Perisic, Keane etc.

What you fail to realise is we went unbeaten for a reason, we had one if the best defenses in the league for a reason. We also created plenty of chances but we just didn't take them we lacked goals and a depth that will be fixed.

I just find this hard to believe, why would Barca chase him when there are far better players out there? If we sign a midfielder, Herrera will struggle to get a game for us.
 
I just find this hard to believe, why would Barca chase him when there are far better players out there? If we sign a midfielder, Herrera will struggle to get a game for us.

No they'll all play in midfeild 3.
 
I just find this hard to believe, why would Barca chase him when there are far better players out there? If we sign a midfielder, Herrera will struggle to get a game for us.
Far better players like who?(who don't come from the world best teams)
 
I just find this hard to believe, why would Barca chase him when there are far better players out there? If we sign a midfielder, Herrera will struggle to get a game for us.
The exact same was said about Rakitic. I agree that Herrera is overrated by many, but he's also vastly underrated by a few, weirdly by our own fans. Herrera has quite often this season been our best midfielder.
 
I just find this hard to believe, why would Barca chase him when there are far better players out there? If we sign a midfielder, Herrera will struggle to get a game for us.

Better at what though? There are lots of players who struggle in one system but excel in another. I have occasionally been critical of Herrera at Utd as he does have his limitations but I could actually imagine him being fantastic in a high-press tika taka side

It's strange because by the same token I think if you packed him off to an average side he would just look bang average
 
Potentially looking at:

Ederson
Walker - Kompany - Stones - Mendy
Gundogan
B. Silva - De Bruyne - D. Silva - Sané
Aguero​

vs.​

De Gea
Valencia - Bailly - Lindelof - (Linked)?
Herrera - Fabinho - Pogba
Mkhitaryan - Griezmann - Perisic
Gonna be some fiercely competitive derbies next season.
It's easy, attack their left side and we're sorted or just dominate their midfield.
 
I really just can't see Mourinho playing Griezmann lone striker. Are these people the same ones saying he will ship out fellaini, when in reality he loves him? He will want a powerful striker, not the smallest lone striker in the league
 
Wouldn't mind him here. He can be a very decent backup for CM and RB positions. He can also be useful in a 4-3-3 if Jose wants to go extra defensive in game.

That said, I am not bothered if we miss out on him. 4-2-3-1 is the way to go for us, specially if we get Griezmann to play behind striker. He isn't playing over Pogba or Herrera in that formation.

Isn't he more box to box than anchor type midfielder anyway? Fellaini and Pereira can provide attacking option in midfield. We need someone more similar to Carrick.
 
Wouldn't mind him here. He can be a very decent backup for CM and RB positions. He can also be useful in a 4-3-3 if Jose wants to go extra defensive in game.

That said, I am not bothered if we miss out on him. 4-2-3-1 is the way to go for us, specially if we get Griezmann to play behind striker.

Isn't he more box to box than anchor type midfielder anyway? Fellaini and Pereira can provide attacking option in midfield. We need someone more similar to Carrick.

No, he's a DM. Bakayoko is the box to box at Monaco.
 
Wouldn't mind him here. He can be a very decent backup for CM and RB positions. He can also be useful in a 4-3-3 if Jose wants to go extra defensive in game.

That said, I am not bothered if we miss out on him. 4-2-3-1 is the way to go for us, specially if we get Griezmann to play behind striker. He isn't playing over Pogba or Herrera in that formation.

Isn't he more box to box than anchor type midfielder anyway? Fellaini and Pereira can provide attacking option in midfield. We need someone more similar to Carrick.

He would strike me as a much more natural partner to Pogba in a balanced 4-2-3-1 than Herrera would be. If he is bought and we play that formation then I'd be very surprised if Herrera is favoured ahead of him.
 
We should try and wrap this one up before someone come looking for Bakayoko and Mendy.

Monaco can't sell half their team.
 
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