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Having seen a few youtube videos, has anyone compared him to Fernandinho?

It's probably a lazy example but that's what I see. Gonna stereotype here but he's an atheletic Brazillian footballer, so he has decent technique and an eye for the adventurous but is disciplined and plays within himself as the defensive cover. That last part probably the main point, he's doing limited things because he's keeping it simple/consistent; for a DM and the type (for Mourinho football/player chemistry) we want, that's a good thing.
 
Simon Stones and the MEN were likely briefed by Woodward or similar. Doesn't mean they weren't lied to or that they've now moved on from initial targets (club not selling) to Fabinho. Di Marzio seems to be getting his info from Juve who may well have been misled by an agent. I don't think we can rely on any of these as of yet and need to wait for more definite negotiations.
 
criticalanalysis said:
Having seen a few youtube videos, has anyone compared him to Fernandinho?

It's probably a lazy example but that's what I see. Gonna stereotype here but he's an atheletic Brazillian footballer, so he has decent technique and an eye for the adventurous but is disciplined and plays within himself as the defensive cover. That last part probably the main point, he's doing limited things because he's keeping it simple/consistent; for a DM and the type (for Mourinho football/player chemistry) we want, that's a good thing.
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Gilberto Silva
 
Transfers are so public these days i remember coming home from school years ago to find out we'd signed Andy Cole cant remember us even being linked with him maybe that was because i was young and didnt keep as up to date as now, Twitter and social media are to blame imo

Hope there is something to these rumours have watched a good bit of Monaco this year and i think Fabinho could easily become the best defensive midfielder in the world he reminds me of Vieira.
 
Akshay said:
Why so? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just genuinely interested to know on what basis Fabinho is rated so highly here. He's better on the ball than either of them, but in terms of defensive contribution, I'm not so sure.
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The better on the ball part is pretty important imo. Last thing we need is another really limited CM.
 
sugar_kane said:
Feels a bit like the Schneiderlin saga this one, that looked like it was certain not to happen at one stage, especially when we signed Basti. Hope it works out similarly (albeit with more success on the pitch...)
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We signed Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger on the same day.
 
Cassidy said:
It was a big suprise though is the point
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Sure, was just being pedantic. We also signed both of them the day before going on tour. Announced the day we left for the tour, which means we're still in a fine position for buying and getting people in before going off on tour.
 
I'm too lazy to go looking myself so could someone who's in the know tell me what's the latest with Fab?
 
IRELANDUNITED said:
I'm too lazy to go looking myself so could someone who's in the know tell me what's the latest with Fab?
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  • Number of foreign Twitter journalists state we are close to signing him.
  • United brief uk journalists saying we are not interested.
  • All goes quiet.
  • The '48 hours' and 'two weeks' deadlines the twitter folk gave to him signing pass remarkably quietly
  • Ronaldo has a paddy and everyone forgets.
  • Ronaldo shuts up and people need some rumours.
  • Fabinho rumours start again, suspiciously at the exact same time he goes on tv to state he would love to play for us.
  • Transfer Muppets get giddy again and for some reason think they should trust Di Marzio more than the club itself.
  • MEN write an article basically explaining that and how people are blinded by their transfer giddiness to see what is really happening
  • Transfer Muppets try to destroy MEN
think that about covers it
 
criticalanalysis said:
Having seen a few youtube videos, has anyone compared him to Fernandinho?

It's probably a lazy example but that's what I see. Gonna stereotype here but he's an atheletic Brazillian footballer, so he has decent technique and an eye for the adventurous but is disciplined and plays within himself as the defensive cover. That last part probably the main point, he's doing limited things because he's keeping it simple/consistent; for a DM and the type (for Mourinho football/player chemistry) we want, that's a good thing.
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I see it too, actually. It's a fair shout.
 
Dracula said:
  • Number of foreign Twitter journalists state we are close to signing him.
  • United brief uk journalists saying we are not interested.
  • All goes quiet.
  • The '48 hours' and 'two weeks' deadlines the twitter folk gave to him signing pass remarkably quietly
  • Ronaldo has a paddy and everyone forgets.
  • Ronaldo shuts up and people need some rumours.
  • Fabinho rumours start again, suspiciously at the exact same time he goes on tv to state he would love to play for us.
  • Transfer Muppets get giddy again and for some reason think they should trust Di Marzio more than the club itself.
  • MEN write an article basically explaining that and how people are blinded by their transfer giddiness to see what is really happening
  • Transfer Muppets try to destroy MEN
think that about covers it
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:lol: Bang on.
 
Dracula said:
  • Number of foreign Twitter journalists state we are close to signing him.
  • United brief uk journalists saying we are not interested.
  • All goes quiet.
  • The '48 hours' and 'two weeks' deadlines the twitter folk gave to him signing pass remarkably quietly
  • Ronaldo has a paddy and everyone forgets.
  • Ronaldo shuts up and people need some rumours.
  • Fabinho rumours start again, suspiciously at the exact same time he goes on tv to state he would love to play for us.
  • Transfer Muppets get giddy again and for some reason think they should trust Di Marzio more than the club itself.
  • MEN write an article basically explaining that and how people are blinded by their transfer giddiness to see what is really happening
  • Transfer Muppets try to destroy MEN
think that about covers it
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hahaha thank you, so we aren't signing him
 
Dracula said:
  • Fabinho rumours start again, suspiciously at the exact same time he goes on tv to state he would love to play for us.
  • Transfer Muppets get giddy again and for some reason think they should trust Di Marzio more than the club itself.
  • MEN write an article basically explaining that and how people are blinded by their transfer giddiness to see what is really happening
  • Transfer Muppets try to destroy MEN
think that about covers it
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1. The rumours about our interest didn't start again. Di Marzio claims we've actually bid

2. People get happy about this news because he's a great journalist that has broken many of our transfers

3. MEN attack fans and go on a weird tangent that claims "because fabinho isn't talking like an offer has been placed, that is evidence of no offer"

4. People point out luckhurst is a blatant liar (Jose isn't close to MUFC, mata got in a fist fight) and is a raging xenophobe that seems to has something against foreigners/journos and fans point out his lying and bigotry.

5. Simon stones from BBC confirms he hasn't heard anything different on mufc not chasing fabinho but concedes things can change.

Think that about covers it.
 
Dracula said:
  • Number of foreign Twitter journalists state we are close to signing him.
  • United brief uk journalists saying we are not interested.
  • All goes quiet.
  • The '48 hours' and 'two weeks' deadlines the twitter folk gave to him signing pass remarkably quietly
  • Ronaldo has a paddy and everyone forgets.
  • Ronaldo shuts up and people need some rumours.
  • Fabinho rumours start again, suspiciously at the exact same time he goes on tv to state he would love to play for us.
  • Transfer Muppets get giddy again and for some reason think they should trust Di Marzio more than the club itself.
  • MEN write an article basically explaining that and how people are blinded by their transfer giddiness to see what is really happening
  • Transfer Muppets try to destroy MEN
think that about covers it
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Fool of a Took.
 
Dracula said:
  • Number of foreign Twitter journalists state we are close to signing him.
  • United brief uk journalists saying we are not interested.
  • All goes quiet.
  • The '48 hours' and 'two weeks' deadlines the twitter folk gave to him signing pass remarkably quietly
  • Ronaldo has a paddy and everyone forgets.
  • Ronaldo shuts up and people need some rumours.
  • Fabinho rumours start again, suspiciously at the exact same time he goes on tv to state he would love to play for us.
  • Transfer Muppets get giddy again and for some reason think they should trust Di Marzio more than the club itself.
  • MEN write an article basically explaining that and how people are blinded by their transfer giddiness to see what is really happening
  • Transfer Muppets try to destroy MEN
think that about covers it
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Fangs for the update!
 
Dracula said:
  • Number of foreign Twitter journalists state we are close to signing him.
  • United brief uk journalists saying we are not interested.
  • All goes quiet.
  • The '48 hours' and 'two weeks' deadlines the twitter folk gave to him signing pass remarkably quietly
  • Ronaldo has a paddy and everyone forgets.
  • Ronaldo shuts up and people need some rumours.
  • Fabinho rumours start again, suspiciously at the exact same time he goes on tv to state he would love to play for us.
  • Transfer Muppets get giddy again and for some reason think they should trust Di Marzio more than the club itself.
  • MEN write an article basically explaining that and how people are blinded by their transfer giddiness to see what is really happening
  • Transfer Muppets try to destroy MEN
think that about covers it
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You truly believe the shite they write? Not saying Di Marzio is the next Jesus Christ but surely he is more trustworthy than that clueless lizard, Luckhurst?
 
El-Manos said:
You truly believe the shite they write? Not saying Di Marzio is the next Jesus Christ but surely he is more trustworthy than that clueless lizard, Luckhurst?
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No. Because that is not what i said.

I said people believe Di Marzio over the football club they support. That is the point which the MEN wanted to point out, and they were correct for doing so.

Man United said they were not interested in Fabinho. Now, they could certainly be lying...but why? Thats a risky strategy, one which nobody (including Di Marzio) has been able to explain.

It's noticeable that united didnt say they were not interested in Lindelof, nor have we for Morata. So we seem to be picking which stories we say arent true (as we have done before) which to me suggests one of two scenarios:

1. We are fed up with players using us to drum up interest from others.
2. It helps us politically with another deal.

Neither of which are good for the chances of us signing Fabinho.

So, no. The question isnt do i believe MEN over Di Marzio, its do i believe man utd over what Di Marzio has been told. The answer is yes
 
Dracula said:
No. Because that is not what i said.

I said people believe Di Marzio over the football club they support. That is the point which the MEN wanted to point out, and they were correct for doing so.

Man United said they were not interested in Fabinho. Now, they could certainly be lying...but why? Thats a risky strategy, one which nobody (including Di Marzio) has been able to explain.

It's noticeable that united didnt say they were not interested in Lindelof, nor have we for Morata. So we seem to be picking which stories we say arent true (as we have done before) which to me suggests one of two scenarios:

1. We are fed up with players using us to drum up interest from others.
2. It helps us politically with another deal.

Neither of which are good for the chances of us signing Fabinho.

So, no. The question isnt do i believe MEN over Di Marzio, its do i believe man utd over what Di Marzio has been told. The answer is yes
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Ah, but the problem is this: how do we know that the MEN and BBC were told by the club? They have never referenced that the club told them "we are not interested in Fabinho", neither did they interview Jose and he told them that.
 
gr3yham3 said:
Ah, but the problem is this: how do we know that the MEN and BBC were told by the club? They have never referenced that the club told them "we are not interested in Fabinho", neither did they interview Jose and he told them that.
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Yeah, absolutely. They've clearly been briefed but there's plausible deniability after.
Again, risky strategy because you need the journalists yo write what you want and if yiu lie to them they won't do it again
 
You see, you've embarrassed yourself here.

Dracula said:
No. Because that is not what i said.

I said people believe Di Marzio over the football club they support. That is the point which the MEN wanted to point out, and they were correct for doing so.

Man United said they were not interested in Fabinho. Now, they could certainly be lying...but why? Thats a risky strategy, one which nobody (including Di Marzio) has been able to explain.

It's noticeable that united didnt say they were not interested in Lindelof, nor have we for Morata. So we seem to be picking which stories we say arent true (as we have done before) which to me suggests one of two scenarios:

1. We are fed up with players using us to drum up interest from others.
2. It helps us politically with another deal.

Neither of which are good for the chances of us signing Fabinho.

So, no. The question isnt do i believe MEN over Di Marzio, its do i believe man utd over what Di Marzio has been told. The answer is yes
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I like the fact you are as gullible as the journalists in question who believe that the club would genuinely brief them, as a group, on their actual transfer targets. LITERALLY. WHY? If you can explain why they would do that, please be my guest. (And, btw, DiMarzio is under no obligation to decypher the motivations of some unnamed source at MUFC. He is a journalist, not a psychic). We humble muppets await your sober, rational interpretation with bated breath...


Dracula said:
  • Number of foreign Twitter journalists state we are close to signing him.
  • United brief uk journalists saying we are not interested.
  • All goes quiet.
  • The '48 hours' and 'two weeks' deadlines the twitter folk gave to him signing pass remarkably quietly
  • Ronaldo has a paddy and everyone forgets.
  • Ronaldo shuts up and people need some rumours.
  • Fabinho rumours start again, suspiciously at the exact same time he goes on tv to state he would love to play for us.
  • Transfer Muppets get giddy again and for some reason think they should trust Di Marzio more than the club itself.
  • MEN write an article basically explaining that and how people are blinded by their transfer giddiness to see what is really happening
  • Transfer Muppets try to destroy MEN
think that about covers it
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William_Meredith said:
You see, you've embarrassed yourself here.



I like the fact you are as gullible as the journalists in question who believe that the club would genuinely brief them, as a group, on their actual transfer targets. LITERALLY. WHY? If you can explain why they would do that, please be my guest. (And, btw, DiMarzio is under no obligation to decypher the motivations of some unnamed source at MUFC. He is a journalist, not a psychic). We humble muppets await your sober, rational interpretation with bated breath...
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In fairness, the club have continually briefed the press about stuff including transfer targets (Fabregas, Pedro etc.) in recent years whilst then briefing again "oh no, we were never actually interested" everytime we've been turned down by a target. That does seem to have changed slightly recently (the press weren't that up on Bailly or Mkhitaryan joining) but the fact they went to the effort they did to deny interest when they've been happy to disclose targets before/not divulge either way suggests this may be nonsense.
 
WPMUFC said:
1. The rumours about our interest didn't start again. Di Marzio claims we've actually bid

2. People get happy about this news because he's a great journalist that has broken many of our transfers

3. MEN attack fans and go on a weird tangent that claims "because fabinho isn't talking like an offer has been placed, that is evidence of no offer"

4. People point out luckhurst is a blatant liar (Jose isn't close to MUFC, mata got in a fist fight) and is a raging xenophobe that seems to has something against foreigners/journos and fans point out his lying and bigotry.

5. Simon stones from BBC confirms he hasn't heard anything different on mufc not chasing fabinho but concedes things can change.

Think that about covers it.
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This is the reality. Nobody knows
 
If Di Marzio is half as reputable as the Caf would like us to believe, and he has said that we have had a bid accepted and he is edging closer to a move, why is this place not in delirious meltdown?

Am I missing something, it's like a funeral in here.
 
Red Devil Rising said:
If Di Marzio is half as reputable as the Caf would like us to believe, and he has said that we have had a bid accepted and he is edging closer to a move, why is this place not in delirious meltdown?

Am I missing something, it's like a funeral in here.
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Said we bid. Not necessarily accepted.
 
@Dracula mind providing me with a link to where the club have confirmed we aren't interested?
 
Red Devil Rising said:
If Di Marzio is half as reputable as the Caf would like us to believe, and he has said that we have had a bid accepted and he is edging closer to a move, why is this place not in delirious meltdown?

Am I missing something, it's like a funeral in here.
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He says we have bid for him, not accepted.
 
United always downplay their interest in a player and always say we're not interested. They're not obligated to tell the media their targets and are definitely not obligated to announce to the world their interest in a player. Its not United like, never was and never will be. It's happened time and time again where they downplayed reports, it even happened with Lindelof.

As for Di Marzio, I really doubt he would damage his name and reputation over this. There is some truth behind this alleged bid from United.
 
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Red_Orchestra said:
United always downplay their interest in a player and always say we're not interested. They're not obligated to tell the media their targets and are definitely not obligated to announce to the world their interest in a player. Its not United like, never was and never will be. It's happened time and time again where they downplayed reports, it even happened with Lindelof.

As for Di Marzio, I really doubt he would damage his name and reputation over this. There is some truth behind this alleged bid from United.
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He said that bid was made almost two months ago not yesterday. A lot can change in two months.
 
RDCR07 said:
He said that bid was made almost two months ago not yesterday. A lot can change in two months.
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Wait, what? He reported our interest 2 months ago, and only reported we made a 50m euro bid 2 days ago.
 
Dracula said:
Man United said they were not interested in Fabinho.

its do i believe man utd
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Original articles:
MEN:

But United sources insist they are not in the race for the 23-year-old as Mourinho seeks a long-term successor to Michael Carrick.
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http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...chester-united-transfer-news-fabinho-13178253

BBC:

One player United have been linked with who will not be moving to Old Trafford is Monaco full-back Fabinho.

It is understood Mourinho has no interest in the Brazilian.
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http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40236474

MEN then go on to say matic is a target because Dier is "too hard to buy" and our CB target is Keane. So they were briefed of us not wanting Fabinho, and also briefed on us targeting keane.

In a later "briefing" MEN claimed Matic had agreed personal terms http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ransfer-news-live-13232371?service=responsive and then the telegraph claimed THE CLUB dismissed the claims

Reports that the latter has already verbally agreed personal terms have been dismissed by the club.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...o-would-find-manchester-united-move-tempting/

So MEN have not been briefed by the club, but Simon Stone might have been. Even then, Stone has clarified his position.




Furthermore, when the club briefed on not getting Griezmann after the ban, Ducker (Telegraph), Stone (BBC) etc etc all said the same thing within minutes of each other. That was a proper briefing. Right now BBC/Stone and Di Marzio are the proper sources. MEN has no logical position on Fabinho or other targets. They are completely making things up. Only Stone and Di Marzio will know, maybe ducker as well.
 
What a mess
Do every football team have so entertaining and rollercoster windows or is it just us :lol::lol:
 
Suvaid666 said:
What a mess
Do every football team have so entertaining and rollercoster windows or is it just us :lol::lol:
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I actually think it's quite straight forward on our CDM options, no one has a a clue. :lol::lol:

Fabinho

BBC/Stone: Probably briefed, says no interest, but says things could change.

MEN: Liars

Di Marzio: good track record, which could favour Di Marzio, says we are in talks and bid, however he could be wrong.

Matic

ESPN/Odgen: Deal could be done

MEN: Liars

Dier

Nothing substantial

When two top tier journos are in complete disagreement. No one has a clue :lol:
 
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