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F1 Season 2025
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He was my guy and I loved his passion and aggression and really had a dislike for the sport for a while after his death, but I went to live in Germany in 95 and somehow got sucked into the Schumi mania that swept the country and by 96 I watched every single race. As much as I hated Schumacher when Senna was driving I started to warm to the machine that was Schumacher by the time I moved back home almost 8 years later I was fully on the Schumi wagon. It saddens me deeply that we didn't get more races between them two it would've been something else. That era was just awesome.
Dictator MBS has succesfully safeguarded his position by giving himself more power, essentially putting himself in control of the ethics and audit committees.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/ckgz4jw14rdo
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/ckgz4jw14rdo
Who do we think would win if all past champions were put in exactly the same car?
Obviously all are very talented, but Senna looked exceptional (he was racing before I was born/a couple of years before I was old enough to properly start watching) especially as the car looked so hard to drive, none of the "mod cons" we have now. Think he'd have won more titles if he hadn't been killed.
What it made me hope for desperately, is if we can't have multiple teams competing for the title, that we have both drivers in a team going head to head for the title, like his battle with Prost.
It's all a bit too nicey nice now. Thing is we won't get it at RB as they seem set to stick with Perez. I can only see it at Ferrari, but has Lewis still got 100% of his ability and sharpness? Jury's out on Lando (I don't think he's ruthless enough) and Oscar's form fell off a cliff at the end of the season.
Would be really interesting to see a documentary on how they've worked on safety over the years, I've got so used to seeing the Halo you forget how exposed drivers were in the cockpit. Lets not forget people were against it originally. I know Prof Sod Watkins did a tonne of work on it.
Obviously all are very talented, but Senna looked exceptional (he was racing before I was born/a couple of years before I was old enough to properly start watching) especially as the car looked so hard to drive, none of the "mod cons" we have now. Think he'd have won more titles if he hadn't been killed.
What it made me hope for desperately, is if we can't have multiple teams competing for the title, that we have both drivers in a team going head to head for the title, like his battle with Prost.
It's all a bit too nicey nice now. Thing is we won't get it at RB as they seem set to stick with Perez. I can only see it at Ferrari, but has Lewis still got 100% of his ability and sharpness? Jury's out on Lando (I don't think he's ruthless enough) and Oscar's form fell off a cliff at the end of the season.
Would be really interesting to see a documentary on how they've worked on safety over the years, I've got so used to seeing the Halo you forget how exposed drivers were in the cockpit. Lets not forget people were against it originally. I know Prof Sod Watkins did a tonne of work on it.
I think it would be between Senna, MSC and Hamilton depending on which cars tbh.
Think schumi could probably extract the most of the car itself but it's impossible, unlimited testing available? Is there drs? What engine etc
Most likely Senna. Clark next.
Schumacher and Hamilton were exceptionally quick too but you build a car with them. The other two could have been racing shopping trolleys and won.
I would add Mansell to that list, I thought he was a very underrated driver.
Not correct on Schumacher.. one of his "problems" at the start was he would drive around issuesand Ferrari / Benneton wouldn't believe his teammate, causing some developmental mistakes in the car
Rumours doing the rounds today that Perez is out at Red Bull for Liam Lawson.
A lot of people mentioning that the French guy that broke the story is very reliable & close to a lot of French drivers so people are speculating that Issac Hadjar will be in the second VCARB seat and that ties in to Perez leaving.
A lot of people mentioning that the French guy that broke the story is very reliable & close to a lot of French drivers so people are speculating that Issac Hadjar will be in the second VCARB seat and that ties in to Perez leaving.
Everyone is reporting it, it seems like Yuki (and lots of other people) has overrated himself, obviously Red Bull think Lawson is better or has more potential. He definitely looked good last year, if I remember well he beat Yuki in few first races in F1.
I think it's more that Yuki is a Honda affiliated driver and Lawson is from their own academy. Yuki's been consistently good for a couple of years and was handily better than Danny Ric and has (understandbly) had the upper hand on Lawson since he's came in the last 6 races. But as always it's just politics in F1 with the Honda Red Bull deal ending at the end of next season, Red Bull probably don't want to be put in a awkward place.
I hope Lawson proves everyone wrong but you would be forgiven for expecting it to go the same way as the Gasly/Albon fiasco's of Red Bull over expecting from drivers not quite ready to take the leap into a front running team.
The Perez plot thickens
https://www.planetf1.com/news/sergio-perez-red-bull-exit-rumours-sponsor-tweet
https://www.planetf1.com/news/sergio-perez-red-bull-exit-rumours-sponsor-tweet
Hiring Lawson will cement the demise of Red Bull which will be a glorious empire to see burn to cinders
Lawson seemed fast enough didn’t he? Reckless though. And no doubt unclear if he can handle the pressure of being in a top seat.
Just been confirmed Perez leaving Red Bull
I had my doubts but the logical thing finally happened.
Yuki or Lawson, Max will still wipe the floor with them.
BBC brutal.
Lawson is as average as they come in terms of outright pace. He gets regularly outqualified, even Sargeant seemed quicker than him in F2 when they were teammates.
In these regulations, grid position is vital. Yuki's Honda links are the only reason IMO why he may get overlooked for Lawson.
Hadjar has potential, but again he is extremely hot-headed like Yuki
Red Bull should have kicked out Perez quicker and gone for Sainz earlier this season.
Sainz would have been a headache for Max, Lawson will be perfect partner for him but I don't think it's the strongest pairing for the constructors.
I mean, in his first F1 race he beat Tsunoda by few places. In second race he qualified just behind Tsunoda and finished in decent 11th place(Yuki was DNF that race). In third race he outqualified Yuki, and finished 9th(Yuki DNF). In fourth race Tsunoda just edged him in qualifying, and Lawson beat him in the race again.
Coming half into a season as a replacement rookie and beating Tsunoda who drives that car for two years isn't really that bad as you are making it out to be. Either he is decent, or Tsunoda is shite, there is other option. And Yuki is definitely not great driver either.
I feel like Yuki is being overlooked and I'm not sure why. He surely is better than Lawson.
They made that new contract look absolutely ridiculous, he was already toiling when it was announced, and last season Max more or less carried them to the constructors - he couldn't do that this year as we actually had competition from other teams
He simply had to go
They missed out on Sainz because of the stupid contract decision as well, will they have to pay Checo compensation or can they just outright bin him because of failure to meet performance goals?
He simply had to go
They missed out on Sainz because of the stupid contract decision as well, will they have to pay Checo compensation or can they just outright bin him because of failure to meet performance goals?
Yes, Red Bull have terminated the contract so they'll pay out his contract for the year plus a load more. That doesn't take into account sponsor penalties they'll no doubt have to pay without Perez being in this seat.
You have to look closer at the races when you claim someone beat the other. Yuki had terrible luck in their races together in 2023. Should have been comfortably in the points in Zandvoort, the first race you mentioned, but AT made terrible strategy calls before the rain came in (Was on course for 7th) and then he lost a massive chunk of time after the pitstops, Lawson was nowhere in that race (which is understandable as it was his first race). It was a DNS at Monza, Singapore he was taken out by Perez, and again in Japan suffered due to AT's strategy as he was much faster than Lawson but they let him get stuck behind him when he had fresher tyres. He never should have lost to Lawson. Outqualified him 3-1
This season, he has outqualified Lawson 6-0 in their races together. Outscored him 8-4. He deserves to be promoted as he has done what he needed to, i.e, beat his teammates in the sister team.
Lawson has never been an outright fast driver IMO. I have followed him through the junior series, Red Bull had a much better driver in Vips but he killed his own F1 career.
Because he has unnaturally big mouth for his body size.
Why? He wasnt a headache for Charles.
Finally they have binned Perez. It sure took them long enough, and cost them a constructors trophy. I doubt Lawson is going to be anywhere near Max, but he should at the very least have the car performing in the top half of the table. If he can get out of the first session of qualifying, and finish above mid table each race he will be an upgrade for them at least.
Because Yuki is a Honda guy and not a Red Bull guy.
He’ll probably move to AM in 2026 when Honda starts supplying engines to AM.
There was a stat floating around that if Perez didn't exist after the first four races then Red Bull would still have finished 3rd in the constructors championship which both shows how useless Perez was and how much of a beast Max is.
Liam Lawson to race for RB, it has been announced.
Just another way of saying Perez didn’t score much after the first 4 races.
I think it will be fun to see him in an RB car. It's the hardest seat on the grid to go into, but he's more aggressive than pretty much all of Max's teammates to date.
I'm expecting more drama than what we saw with Checo.
I'm expecting more drama than what we saw with Checo.
Happy with that. He wasn't too far behind Tsunoda on overall pace despite coming in mid season and having far less experience in that car and F1 in general and he's had some pretty good moments. He's also shown he's not one to get pushed about and is willing to defend hard. Absolutely loved how he handled Perez divebombing him in Mexico. Tsunoda is prone to losing his head sometimes. Big challenge though being up against Max in your first full season but I hope he does well.
agreed. there’s the obvious all the development work on the car being aimed at max, not being allowed to overtake max, having to swap positions with max if it benefits max. but also only being allowed to eat what max leaves, him exercising his right of prima nocta for any new girlfriend of yours and having to clean all max’s cars and emptying his streaming piss jugs.
Bottas new Merc reserve driver
Best choice. Yuki wouldn't have survived a half a season with max. He would have been mentally destroyed. Too weak mentally and too emotional for a F1 driver. Plus he's as average as they come.
Lawson showed some potential but I don't think he will be in the car in 2026.
Still think RedBull made a huge mistake in not getting Sainz. Whether he could beat max over a season is debatable (I doubt it), he would kept max honest.
Also good move by Mercedes to bring bottas back as reserve driver. If antonelli needs to be taken out of the firing line, they have a capable backup. Also one who understands what a fast potential championship winning Mercedes is like.
Max beat Sainz comfortably in his debut F1 season so.. unlikely.