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Is he right in saying that if they red flagged immediately then there was time to put another lap in?
Marginal, the screenshot I saw had Leclerc going through to push Verstappen into 11th with 1:36 left and Stroll’s yellow in S1, if Max is at the head of the queue he maybe gets a lap in, if not probably doesn’t. Considering a full speed lap was 1:25 at the time, a warm up lap would be what 1:30+, very tight.
Really? Some people have no shame. I’d stay quiet and just get Max the WDC then smile.
When did Leclerc actually finish?
Regardless of the insane luck or even directed benefit McLaren might get - i continue to be amazed RB still does this thing where they wait til the last possible moment to push for their best lap of the session. They have been fecked by flags on so many occasions now - Max in particular - that surely they should change that approach now.
Okay that's interesting. I see why he's mad then. If they red flag immediately he gets into Q3. It's very close though
A warm up lap is much longer.. Probably in the 1 minute 40-50s
No one puts in a red flag like immediately. Leclerc completed his lap less than 0.1s later and dropped Max to 11th.
I think Albon's impact was too hard to race the same day anyway.
The American's valuing entertainment over sporting competition. Nothing to see here.
Explain why they waited so long in any case?
It was said on commentary that Stroll was trying to move the car. Even a Red flag within 10s of the incident wouldn't have given him enough time. He was one of the few who was behind Stroll when he crashed
As I said, nothing would have made a difference with regards to Verstappen making it through
It had a wheel missing mate.
Regardless of Verstappen it was a strange decision.
I'm not really a fan of Max by the way, I'm somewhat neutral I don't particularity follow any driver/team. This isn't me trying to make excuses for Verstappen...
There's about 4 above Max that are dubious to make the start, and will likely be in the pit lane at best so his position isn't that compromised as it appears
There’s no point getting into a negative mindset pre race about red flags etc, he’s got a good car for these conditions and he’s one of the best there’s ever been in these conditions. The win is still on for him IMO.
Fascinated how George and Lewis will end up finishing close to each other somehow, someway once again.
Just waiting for news on Sainz, Fernando Alonso, Lance Stroll and Franco Colapinto, I think Alonso could be a big doubt.
Sainz is a pit lane start.
cheers
No it wasnt actually, a bent one though. Stroll obviously wouldnt have known it at the time so was still trying.
Anyways a Red Flag a few seconds earlier wouldn't have really mattered here
How would it work if WIlliams gave Colapinto's car(assuming they can fix it) to Albon? Would he start 7th(where he qualified), or 18th where Colapinto qualified? Basically, is the qualifying place tied to the car or the driver?
In that image it looks to be just bent but if you watch the replay it's moving around as he comes to a stop.
Just caught up with qually, that was excellent watch. Lance Stroll away from the crash, we all know shouldn't be in F1. He was impeding drivers in Q1 and Q2.
Pirelli's extreme wets have been criticsed for being crap all season. They need to improve that tyre.
Should be a interesting race, I think max can make the podium, even the race win if it's a wet race. It's so unpredictable.
Shame for Hamilton that the car is so awful, but Russell went P2, so he only has himself to blame (though they are both running different spec floors this weekend).
Pirelli's extreme wets have been criticsed for being crap all season. They need to improve that tyre.
Should be a interesting race, I think max can make the podium, even the race win if it's a wet race. It's so unpredictable.
Shame for Hamilton that the car is so awful, but Russell went P2, so he only has himself to blame (though they are both running different spec floors this weekend).
Tied to the driver. I think this scenario has happen in the past, a long time ago, I think with Jordan F1 team, but I might be wrong.
Which is fair as we've seen drivers make the thing rotate in such conditions. Anyways just seen on twitter Alonso and Sainz incidents took about 18-19 seconds to bring out the flag, neither would have helped Verstappen out.
Its just Red Bull being silly and trying to deflect
Ironic, considering he's benefited from a few significant ones himself.
Maybe Max is not the FIA's untouchable golden boy any more?
Genuinely can’t agree that it was excellent. The end sure. But as a whole, for me it’s a joke that the cars are so undriveable in those conditions.
I think people thought Max was different - but ultimately it’s the same. They’re all the golden boy until they aren’t. Putting aside my enjoyment that it’s now happening to Max, it’s farcical F1 operates like this. It is now, just as much as it was when Max was getting all the favours. It undermines the entire sport.
Blame FIA. They came up with the ground effect rules which are affected by bumps, wind, or a random butterfly flapping its wings in Japan.
Also blame FIA for not getting pirelli to create a extreme wet tyre that actually works.
Lots of us have been watching F1 80s and 90s and seen the drivers drive in worse conditions than these and keep the cars on track.
If AM get both cars running, that will be an amazing feat
I bet that was a beast to drive in the et
I totally agree.
F1 lost all credibility for me in that dodgy final race call for Max over Hamilton in their contested championship.
It continues to lose credibility now showing bias towards Lando over Max. Probably because a new champion or closer battle would increase interest in the "sport". It is barely a sport any more though.
Only 1:34 left on clock when stroll crashed, even if the red flagged it there and then. Max would still be out of Q3.
I doubt anyone in those conditions on a warm up lap straight out of the pits would come out, in traffic and get across the line before the time ran out.
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/s/SSUmKJiT6a
I doubt anyone in those conditions on a warm up lap straight out of the pits would come out, in traffic and get across the line before the time ran out.
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/s/SSUmKJiT6a