I think Leclerc pretty consistently out qualifies Hamilton, but Hamilton has a consistency in the race we’ve yet to see from Leclerc.
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Leclerc has been up there this year. His series of results since Hungary have been phenomenal. Think he comfortably beats Hamilton
Papa Perez saying his son is the best driver on the grid and will stay in RB for ten more years 
He s def a politicianPapa Perez saying his son is the best driver on the grid and will stay in RB for ten more years
I don't think Leclerc has it in him. I wouldn't be surprised if Hamilton was faster.
11.5 super bru, glad I kept EBP thought it was only 1, looks like almost everyone kept it
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He's going there for that one final push for the 8th title, that's the only reason for moving.
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| Reporter: Will you do anything different next time, considering the penalties? Max Verstappen: “Maybe have a drink during the pit stop. The engine was off for 20 seconds, so there would have been enough time.”
never change Max
Also: Lawson flipping off Checo when overtaking him...man gonna be Mexico s new enemy numero uno
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| Reporter: Will you do anything different next time, considering the penalties? Max Verstappen: “Maybe have a drink during the pit stop. The engine was off for 20 seconds, so there would have been enough time.”
never change MaxAlso: Lawson flipping off Checo when overtaking him...man gonna be Mexico s new enemy numero uno
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Bur seriously do change your spastic defending Max because someone's gonna get a hurt really bad.RBR Brazil Portal
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| Reporter: Will you do anything different next time, considering the penalties? Max Verstappen: “Maybe have a drink during the pit stop. The engine was off for 20 seconds, so there would have been enough time.”
Is it really necessary to use the word spastic here? Come on now.
The skill and mental edge Leclerc will gain from being next to Lewis will push him over that championship line. It will be very tense though, I can see Lewis having issues with some of the politics, Ferrari would prefer a Charles championship.
Max has been doing this car crash driving his whole career. Why is it only now that the stewards/FIA are punishing him for it?
He was their golden boy. Time for a new one now.
Sainz deserves better than Williams. Hope he gets back to a good car relatively soon.
Also, good to see K-Mag get a good result before he departs F1. Haas really cementing that 6th spot in the constructors.
Also, good to see K-Mag get a good result before he departs F1. Haas really cementing that 6th spot in the constructors.
Verstappen, absolute cock.
Love it, Perez was shite the whole weekend, tried to overtake Lawson by pushing him off but Lawson was having none of it. You could tell Perez was feeling the pressure too with his comments on the radio. Hopefully this is his last season.
Was it Lawson who Perez was lambasting in another incident? He was saying something like "what the feck is this idiot doing" while being fairly overtaken. I wanted to say "he's overtaking your slow arse". He's getting hustled in around 17th and on the radio whining.
Feel a bit sorry for him in front of his home crowd though.
Feel a bit sorry for him in front of his home crowd though.
Yeah, then he said something along the lines of "probably from the same idiot" when talking about the debris from the Lawson / Colapinto incident (for which Colapinto got a penalty). He was a right cnut about it
I really don't get this revisionist theory. People scream this online and it's taken as gospel. We could argue all day long whether people think he got enough of them but he s received plenty of penalties over the years. Just look at the pts on his super license alone. Some of this train of thought goes back to people being stuck in 21 IMHO. Sometimes the hate feels a bit like Arse fans seeing a boogie man everywhere.
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Many on here simply hate Max because he's not British, he's an aggressive driver and he says what he thinks I stead of the usual politically correct answers. If he makes a mistake or makes a snarky remark in the heat of the moment people on here are frothing at the mouth, ready to tear him a new one. Been that way for years now and it won't change. Lando or Russell pushes someone off? No big deal. Max does it to Lando? MAX IS A DANGER TO THE ENTIRE PLANET! THE DEVIL INCARNATE!
Now of course Max does go over the edge sometimes, and he did yesterday with that second incident where he obviously lost his head, dove down the inside, missed the corner and still stayed ahead. The 10 second penalty for that was the right call, obviously. The one before that though where Norris was on the outside and got pushed off? How is that a 10 second penalty if others have recently gotten a 5 second penalty for similar incidents? And why didn't the stewards hand out more penalties? Yesterday we saw drivers get pushed off so many times I lost count. Yet nobody got penalized except Max. There was more inconsistency after the race in the presser where Leclerc said feck. Why no punishment? The answer is of course Johnny Herbert being the steward. He's shown so many times he's biased but the FIA don't care.
They had to wait to pit Leclerc until there was only 2 laps left because if they had done it earlier they would've opened up the chance for Norris to pit as well.
Joke of a post.
Full of unfounded accusations and generalisations.
I don't dislike Max because of where he is from.
And I have said many times he is a fantastic driver.
But I do dislike him because he can be a danger to other drivers as well as himself.
As soon as someone challenges him, he tends to lose his cool and we all saw what happened yesterday. Including the race stewards who were correct in their penalties.
I see nationality is the topic to deflect again, ridiculous how it turns to that every single time in this thread.
Every. Single. Time.
Every. Single. Time.
it’s the easiest way to tell how slam-dunk verstappen being a bellend was.
What, because I summed up the most common reasons why people on here hate Max but not all reasons? I said many on here hate him for said reasons, not all. So yes, a generalisation, and that makes it a joke of a post? Hardly unfounded as well, it's pretty plain to see and based on many years of reading and posting in this thread.
Also, in my post I said Max lost his head yesterday. The penalties.. well. One of them was correct, like I said. Hell, even Max has said he agrees with that one The other is very much up for debate. The stewards were again very inconsistent in handing out penalties. If you hand out 5s penalties to Russell and Norris for forcing another driver off the track in Austin you should hand out the same penalty to Max here. If you penalize Max for pushing Lando off you should also penalize others for doing the same and that includes Perez. If you give Max "community service" for saying "feck" in a presser then you should do the same to Leclerc here. But that hardly ever happens, especially when the steward is Herbert, a man who loves the attention. And get this, one of the other stewards was the son of one of the founders of McLaren. I wonder whose side he'd be on in an incident involving a McLaren title challenger. It's a shambles
Dude that's rubbish. No one hates max cause he isn't "British". I for one like his directness in how he speaks. I like his sim racing stuff as well.
It's the dirty tactics on track that he doesn't need to do, as he's an extremely talented driver. There's no need for it. He's lucky this season that he has such a huge margin in points. Similar antics next season might cost him a WDC.
If you can't see why max deserved both 10 second penalties yesterday then you need to take a look at your own biases
what with ten hag and verstappen. it’s about time we asked if the world can afford a country like the netherlands.
Verstappen’s rise and stay at the top is unfortunately the by-product of F1 being entertaiment more than sport, he is a bit unhinged right now and, as such, a liability for his peers and the whole circus. Wondering whether he would try rallies or even American races in case things go really south?
the easiest way to deal with all those stewarding controversies is to introduce var. the cars are electronically stopped immediately after an incident, and we have the on-track steward run to a tv screen at the side of the track and decide the punishment there and then. we then have a restart, which everyone enjoys. then if max races like a dick and gets a 20 second penalty, his car is disabled for 20 seconds at the restart.
Penalties are up to the discretion of the stewards.
I haven't read the version of Russell's penalty from last week but Norris was given a 10s penalty but was reduced to 5 as Verstappen left him nowhere to go. Perez definitely drove ugly and should have been penalizedWhat, because I summed up the most common reasons why people on here hate Max but not all reasons? I said many on here hate him for said reasons, not all. So yes, a generalisation, and that makes it a joke of a post? Hardly unfounded as well, it's pretty plain to see and based on many years of reading and posting in this thread.
Also, in my post I said Max lost his head yesterday. The penalties.. well. One of them was correct, like I said. Hell, even Max has said he agrees with that one The other is very much up for debate. The stewards were again very inconsistent in handing out penalties. If you hand out 5s penalties to Russell and Norris for forcing another driver off the track in Austin you should hand out the same penalty to Max here. If you penalize Max for pushing Lando off you should also penalize others for doing the same and that includes Perez. If you give Max "community service" for saying "feck" in a presser then you should do the same to Leclerc here. But that hardly ever happens, especially when the steward is Herbert, a man who loves the attention. And get this, one of the other stewards was the son of one of the founders of McLaren. I wonder whose side he'd be on in an incident involving a McLaren title challenger. It's a shambles
As I said the issue comes from looking at who's marginally ahead at the apex(and not how), it's one of the criteria but not everything, stewards are making a mistake judging around that. Norris jumped Verstappen at T4 apex by under braking and then was pushed outside for a corner which was deemed his.
Even funnier that Horner came with the telemetry data to show that Norris was never going to make the turn, as if that matters.
It's a real shame he isn't in the Mercedes for next season. He deserves it. Besides it would be a good barometer check between him and Russell,
Unfortunately totto is obsessed with antonelli, who I think is far too young to be in a top team in F1. You can see it with Piastri, there are mistakes, but they are highlighted so much more as he drives for McLaren.
It will be very interesting to see the racing between Hamilton and Leclerc. Obviously the fairytale would be for lewis to get no 8 in a Ferrari. Personally I think he would retire at that point and not be around for 2026. However as Hamiltons race engineer said these regs don't suit Hamilton driving style so it could Leclerc who emerges victorious.
Ominously for the rest of the gird, the Ferraris are looking good, this is despite the knowledgeable that they are leaving down force on the table as the rear suspension in its current setup (pull rod) cannot cope with more downforce and they will be switching to push rod for 2025, as currently run by most of the grid.
It's absolutely not, I don't have any data to hand but it's widely known that since Liberty Media became involved & Drive To Survive became popular that F1 has soared in popularity.
You make a valid point about the phasing out of fossil fueled engines.
But the number of F1 races each year has been steadily increasing. And that is most likely the reason behind the push to have a race in the African continent.
And I heard that the number of spectators watching F1 has also been increasing.
I do agree with you that for some bizarre reason, fans thrive on controversy. Although for me, I am more interested in the technology as well as the racing.
Thank was what I thought, although I too have to admit that I don't have the data to support that.