Can I just add, I don’t mean any Max or Lewis fans on here.
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I'm not aware of the song, which is probably contributing to why I thought max max max super max, all in caps, was a bit strange
Yeah it's a song from the Pitstop Boys. You'll pretty much hear it at every GP being played on repeat haha.
The penalty for Stoll is such bullshit. He went off the track, carelessly came back on and took another car out, ended their race, then only gets a 5-second pen. Nonsense decision.
Really not a fan of Stroll. He's so careless and clumsy. Good job daddy is in charge.
Really not a fan of Stroll. He's so careless and clumsy. Good job daddy is in charge.
I know it's still too early but IF McLaren are this good until the end, then surely questions must be asked within Mercedes? Behind Aston Martin for the first half of the season and then behind McLaren for the second half of it, again, potentially. Both using Merc's engines. All while saying "we don't know how to fix the car" for the second year.
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Didn't someone get fired for it?
An official made a mess and got fired. So, how do you translate this to "Max knows a bit about cheating."
Also to add to that Somehow I don't think Scarlett got the memo on the illegal Ferrari engine, Spygate or the 1000km illegal tyre test by Mercedes.
No team has a squeaky clean slate in this sport.
Ha I don't think you're that naive.
Guess everyone is cheating in F1 then. May the best cheater win.
Most have done at one stage. Just got to hope whenever they do they get caught. Same as any sport
Yep when there's big money involved there's always corruption. Norris was amazing today. I was hoping he'd snag the win over Max. Maybe next time.
I dont think you know what you are actually writing about. Did the Latifi crash happen because someone paid him too? You know the billionaire son Latifi.I'm not aware of the song, which is probably contributing to why I thought max max max super max, all in caps, was a bit strange
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I know exactly what I'm talking about and you're obviously a fanboi who won't see what happened was wrong. It wouldn't be called a controversy or investigated if it wasn't. Max didn't directly play a part in the "human error" but I must say it all seems quiet convenient and the timing of it laughable.
I use to like Red Bull but Horner gets right up nose and that tw@t at the wheel doesn’t help.
Think there's plenty of criticism that can be fairly directed at Verstappen, but I really don't think that incident is one of them.
It was, of course, absolute bullshit. But it wasn't engineered by Max.
So he is not a cheater after all?
I said he knows all about cheating. I never said he directly cheated. It was all too obvious and his team benefitted. Whether he knew about it or not isn't something any one of us can comment on. Nobody would have wanted to win like that surrounded by all that controversy and doubt. He seems like he's on the way to win this one and let's hope it's not tainted by any shady human error or decisions.
It's unbelievable that one of the worst drivers on the grid in recent years would crash, madness I tell you.
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Vasseur doesn't know exactly what he is talking about either, I don't think changing Binotto improved Ferrari at all.
Vasseur doesn't know exactly what he is talking about either, I don't think changing Binotto improved Ferrari at all.
He won it last season too. Was that "tainted"?
Yeah he's the absolute worst - the man is seemingly allergic to mirrors. Obviously no one is as bad as Mazespin was but in my opinion Stroll versus De Vries is a genuine toss up in terms of actual driving ability.
Mercedes know what needs to be fixed on the car, they just cant do, financially under the cost cap. If you look at rear quarter of the mercedes, where the sidepods swoop downwards the diffuser and rear tyres, its plain to see its way under-developed than some of the rivals.
Hamilton couldnt keep up with norris in T13/T14/T15, thats because the mercedes is suffering from rear end grip and stability and the Mclaren was "a monster" through that section.
Now, there is a elephant in the room, which both mercedes and ferrari need to acknowledge. Why is it we as joe public are told the sidepods arent everything and the whole car is a collection pf parts that come together to give you performance. However AM first and Mclaren now have found 1 second improvement (which is unheard of in F1) by changing their sidepods to those that closely resemble RBs sidepods.
I continue to remain confused by f1 car development under these current rules.
Ferrari are a fecking shambles. They pit leclerc and sainz so early that no-one else bothered to react. Then under saftey car brought leclerc in and didnt put him on SOFTS, when there were less than 15 laps left. Sainz wanted to come in for SOFTS, and they told him to stay out of the hards when most of the grid had pitted for SOFTS. Its just comical and its sad for sainz and leclerc that their own team is hamstringing them.
It's absolutely fecking insane how inept their strategy team is. How are these people still employed??
Not sure if someone else posted it before but I really enjoyed this interview with Max on Channel 4, probably the most relaxed I've seen him in these sitdowns:
I get some people don't like the winning or his on track behavior at times, but he always seems to very down to earth like his mates Lando, Charles, Daniel etc.
I get some people don't like the winning or his on track behavior at times, but he always seems to very down to earth like his mates Lando, Charles, Daniel etc.
It's ingrained into the fabric of the team at this point, doesn't seem to matter who makes the calls. The analogy with United post-SAF on the previous page is sadly far too accurate.
Despite being at a few events actually managed to attend my first race. I remember wondering why Elvis was being played over the speakers just before the race and I’ve just learned it was actually Damian Lewis singing the national anthem
Was a great atmosphere. So much more going on than the actual race. Horner even managed to get a few cheers out of the crowds after the race. Definitely want to do a few more. Maybe not Silverstone with the cost of things but was a good first experience.
Biggest negative is that unless you’re in front of a big screen and have some form of commentary, it’s quite hard to track what’s happening. Still, immense watching the cars do what they do in person.
Was a great atmosphere. So much more going on than the actual race. Horner even managed to get a few cheers out of the crowds after the race. Definitely want to do a few more. Maybe not Silverstone with the cost of things but was a good first experience.
Biggest negative is that unless you’re in front of a big screen and have some form of commentary, it’s quite hard to track what’s happening. Still, immense watching the cars do what they do in person.
If they keep doing well in Hypercar and the series continues to grow then surely they will shift focus to that and let the F1 team fade. It's embarrassing at this point how bad they are.
Completely agree.
Yeah no one in this thread would know, but Ferrari won Le Mans and Nurburgring 24h this year. No easy feat. They have talent in that company somewhere.
F1 will turn into a cash cow for them and merc (well it's already happened). Not the place to showcase or test things for actual cars. They'll do that in proper series.
Disagree personally, I think F1 will always be Ferraris flagship entry and main focus.
Unless Netflix do a series on it.
Ferrari has always needed F1 as much as F1 needs Ferrari, but if they find a big enough audience elsewhere and actual success, that could change.
Yeah I mean in terms of marketing F1 will always be top dog. But I wouldn't be surprised if the SF90 successor comes with LMPH technology not F1. From a company perspective F1 will become a cash generating marketing exercise as long as it finds enough people that buy into it in the current format.Unless Netflix do a series on it.
Ferrari has always needed F1 as much as F1 needs Ferrari, but if they find a big enough audience elsewhere and actual success, that could change.
They've already been spotted trademarking the 499GTB name.
The thing is it’s not even them in Hypercar though, the operation is run by AF Corse and Ferrari are just providing the cars, drivers, branding.
I think Ferrari’s issue with tyre deg was exasperated further this weekend, even with the new construction from Pirelli. Whether that’s a poor correlation with their data from practice and they weren’t aggressive enough, or it’s the fact that they haven’t got to the bottom as to why they are chewing through tyres.
True but there is little difference these days. The Hypercar programme is basically the old GTE team plus the F1 guys they had to lose under the cost cap regs.
Another episode of the Max Verstappen podcast just dropped
I like Lando, of all the drivers after Lewis who I'd consider supporting it would be him. Just a likable guy.