F1 2022 Season

So Mercedes look like they have work to do, well on the surface they do, maybe they are holding back, maybe they did not need to push because they already know all they want too.
Both Lewis and George have said there is work to be done, are they playing mind games ?
Will they start with first race with the zero side pods ?
First race is looking more exciting.
Mercedes always do this. They always look slow during testing, they always go "oh no the car's not quick enough, we're definitely the underdogs now!" and then they're miraculously fast during race weekend. Maybe it worked the first time they did it but literally nobody believes them now. Would be funny if they're actually slow this time though :lol:
 
Anyone but Red Bull and I wouldn’t mind too much. Not because of Max, and certainly not because of Perez. I just really do dislike Horner.

It would be so great to see Ferrari take it. McLaren competing would be great too. And like all 4 of those drivers too. I’d love Williams to compete but that’s just unrealistic.

After that, Mercedes because I just have sympathy for Hamilton and I’d like to see Russell do well.

Quite indifferent to everyone else really although would be nice to see Gasly, Vettel, Schumi and Alonso do well.
 
Mercedes always do this. They always look slow during testing, they always go "oh no the car's not quick enough, we're definitely the underdogs now!" and then they're miraculously fast during race weekend. Maybe it worked the first time they did it but literally nobody believes them now. Would be funny if they're actually slow this time though :lol:
I see where your coming from and yes I agree with do always do it.
Watched more of testing than I normally do and Russell is about where I expected him to be, but Lewis was way off the pace, never got close to a decent time.
The shakedown test was the same, did nothing until the last day them did some P1 times, I was expecting the same in the last hour, but nothing.
 
Anyone but Red Bull and I wouldn’t mind too much. Not because of Max, and certainly not because of Perez. I just really do dislike Horner.

It would be so great to see Ferrari take it. McLaren competing would be great too. And like all 4 of those drivers too. I’d love Williams to compete but that’s just unrealistic.

After that, Mercedes because I just have sympathy for Hamilton and I’d like to see Russell do well.

Quite indifferent to everyone else really although would be nice to see Gasly, Vettel, Schumi and Alonso do well.
I am the same, 100% anybody but Red Bull and the is all down to Horner.
Would like Ferrari to do well this season, McLaren have cooling problems, Alpha's look decent, also HAAS looks like a decent car.
 
Anyone but Red Bull and I wouldn’t mind too much. Not because of Max, and certainly not because of Perez. I just really do dislike Horner.

It would be so great to see Ferrari take it. McLaren competing would be great too. And like all 4 of those drivers too. I’d love Williams to compete but that’s just unrealistic.

After that, Mercedes because I just have sympathy for Hamilton and I’d like to see Russell do well.

Quite indifferent to everyone else really although would be nice to see Gasly, Vettel, Schumi and Alonso do well.
Same for me. Except I dislike Max and Horner. Also Helmut. :lol:

It's a shame a good guy like Adrian Newey is working for them.
 
Red bull just looks so much more graceful and dialed in. I don't think Hamilton was bluffing with his statements.
I dont think hes bluffing, gonna stick my neck out and say at Bahrain, neither Mercedes qualifies in top 5.

The car has masses of potential to unlock, however Mercedes are hamstrung by the new rules and have the least amount of wind tunnel time to try to fix it.
 
Feels like it’s going to be a banger of a season. Hoping for a lot of close races
 
One thing that needs to be considered, such a dramatic change to the Mercedes design is not common. It almost seems to me that there was a large concept change half way through the design process which is not a good sign.

design is largely evolution not revolution after the concept phase because everything is designed around core design…
 
Feels like it’s going to be a banger of a season. Hoping for a lot of close races

This is probably where I'm at, I'm confident we'll have some outliers but broadly speaking we'll see a much closer battle between teams.
 
I am the same, 100% anybody but Red Bull and the is all down to Horner.
Would like Ferrari to do well this season, McLaren have cooling problems, Alpha's look decent, also HAAS looks like a decent car.
If Alfa and haas both have decent cars that should point to Ferrari being a beast this season as they are basically B-tec Ferrari, both have gained experience of Ferrari engineers as Ferrari had to let go of them for financial limits. Also alfa is the best looking car out there
 
One thing that needs to be considered, such a dramatic change to the Mercedes design is not common. It almost seems to me that there was a large concept change half way through the design process which is not a good sign.

design is largely evolution not revolution after the concept phase because everything is designed around core design…
I have a thought that the new radical zero side pods have been in development for a while, a good while and they were not seen at the shakedown test because they were just not ready.
What Wind tunnel testing they could do , according to a few things I have read, pointed to a massive improvement on the standard side pods.
It the porpoising that they cant get to grips with , it looks violent at times.
Both Lewis and George have said the car is not there, George got some decent times in, Lewis did not, we know both will have cars set up different , each will have their own little tweaks, purely on testing and I dont normally give much time to testing times, George has found his sweet spot, where has Lewis has yet to.
Can Mercedes turn it round in 6 days and put themselves on P1 and P2 on Saturday, only time will tell.
 
If Alfa and haas both have decent cars that should point to Ferrari being a beast this season as they are basically B-tec Ferrari, both have gained experience of Ferrari engineers as Ferrari had to let go of them for financial limits. Also alfa is the best looking car out there
I did think this also, hoping that Ferrari get it together and can challenge and do it with a legal car :nervous:
 
I've not seen myself but a few twitter accounts were saying Mercedes weren't engaging 8th gear at all and were doing a lot of lifting. Not sure if holding back to test temps or due to porpoising.
 
I've not seen myself but a few twitter accounts were saying Mercedes weren't engaging 8th gear at all and were doing a lot of lifting. Not sure if holding back to test temps or due to porpoising.

They weren't, same with Red Bull as well.
 
I have a thought that the new radical zero side pods have been in development for a while, a good while and they were not seen at the shakedown test because they were just not ready.
What Wind tunnel testing they could do , according to a few things I have read, pointed to a massive improvement on the standard side pods.
It the porpoising that they cant get to grips with , it looks violent at times.
Both Lewis and George have said the car is not there, George got some decent times in, Lewis did not, we know both will have cars set up different , each will have their own little tweaks, purely on testing and I dont normally give much time to testing times, George has found his sweet spot, where has Lewis has yet to.
Can Mercedes turn it round in 6 days and put themselves on P1 and P2 on Saturday, only time will tell.
Oh I’m not saying they haven’t been in development for a long time, but it is bizzare to see such a core component of the top half aero change so dramatically.

If they’re struggling for balance, my theory probably holds close to the truth.

Kinda reminds me about Williams and 2004 with the Walrus nose.
 
I've not seen myself but a few twitter accounts were saying Mercedes weren't engaging 8th gear at all and were doing a lot of lifting. Not sure if holding back to test temps or due to porpoising.
They had to lift , if not George would have bounced out of the car had they gone faster down the straight :lol:
 
I have a thought that the new radical zero side pods have been in development for a while, a good while and they were not seen at the shakedown test because they were just not ready.
What Wind tunnel testing they could do , according to a few things I have read, pointed to a massive improvement on the standard side pods.
It the porpoising that they cant get to grips with , it looks violent at times.
Both Lewis and George have said the car is not there, George got some decent times in, Lewis did not, we know both will have cars set up different , each will have their own little tweaks, purely on testing and I dont normally give much time to testing times, George has found his sweet spot, where has Lewis has yet to.
Can Mercedes turn it round in 6 days and put themselves on P1 and P2 on Saturday, only time will tell.
The new slimline pods have definitely been in Mercedes plans for at least a year id say. In order to run such thin air pods, you need to do alot of work on cooling the car and the engine. Mercedes spend along time on cooling aspects for this years engine, so you would conclude that it was always in their plans to run slim side pods.

The porposing is probably the most annoying factor for for them, as it really affects the car at higher speeds. I guess Mercedes plan was to use the maximum output of the engine in races to help them while they try to understand this years car, i.e. be very fast in the straights, but slower in the corners for now. Porposing throws that plan out of the window.

I suspect if Mercedes get on top of their problems and unlock the full potential of this years car i.e. match the simulation, then it will be the quickest car on the grid by some margin. Thats my hunch. But they have alot of work to do and limited allowance of time in which to do the work.
 
Any sympathy naive people might have had for Mazespin should be swiftly corrected when they watch episode 4 of D2S.

What a cnut. And very obvious where he gets it from. Gunter must be so delighted to have been given the excuse to jettison those two cretins.

and to have taken that dickheads money too. Good luck recovering it. There is not a court in the western world that will hear the matter.
 
Any sympathy naive people might have had for Mazespin should be swiftly corrected when they watch episode 4 of D2S.

What a cnut. And very obvious where he gets it from. Gunter must be so delighted to have been given the excuse to jettison those two cretins.
We don’t often agree, but exactly what I posted too yesterday. Good riddance to these cnuts.
 


He just doesn’t get it

Yes...
No

But on the season Red Bull and Ferrari look really fast and hopefully LeClerc wasn't shitting when he said they weren't even close to fully run the car. Max looked to give his car a very thorough run yesterday. The Mercs look like they have a problem there isn't much happiness in their camp right now, no smiles at all. But they will get there, they always do. Hopefully we will have Ferrari, Bulls and Mercs battling it out all season long.

PS Mazepin can do one.
 
The new slimline pods have definitely been in Mercedes plans for at least a year id say. In order to run such thin air pods, you need to do alot of work on cooling the car and the engine. Mercedes spend along time on cooling aspects for this years engine, so you would conclude that it was always in their plans to run slim side pods.

The porposing is probably the most annoying factor for for them, as it really affects the car at higher speeds. I guess Mercedes plan was to use the maximum output of the engine in races to help them while they try to understand this years car, i.e. be very fast in the straights, but slower in the corners for now. Porposing throws that plan out of the window.

I suspect if Mercedes get on top of their problems and unlock the full potential of this years car i.e. match the simulation, then it will be the quickest car on the grid by some margin. Thats my hunch. But they have alot of work to do and limited allowance of time in which to do the work.

All good points.
The vertical bounce issue is a real problem for them. As you say, just a few days until Saturday qualifying.
Nevertheless, it shows that they have very effective downforce. Maybe too strong.
It will be very interesting to see how they are able to resolve this and extract the full capabilities of the design.
Because they don't need that amount of downforce on the straight and at top speed. It is needed at slower speeds during the corners.
 
i can't believe they essentially dedicated a whole episode of DTS to a mazespin redemption plot. That Russia GP episode was fecking HILARIOUS, especially the radio message at the end that made it sound like mazespin clawed his way up the field. :lol: :lol:

I love DTS, but wow, the amount of show-induced narratives, outright cringe inducing "breakfast chats" and careful framing of comments needs to be refreshed. I want behind the scenes, not a scripted-PR show.
 
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i can't believe they essentially dedicated a whole episode of DTS to a mazespin redemption plot. That Russia GP episode was fecking HILARIOUS, esepcially the radio message at the end that made it sound like mazespin clawed his way up the field. :lol: :lol:

I love DTS, but wow, the amount of show-induced narratives, outright cringe inducing "breakfast chats" and careful framing of comments needs to be refreshed. I want behind the scenes, not a scripted-PR show.
There was enough material just from the title fight to create two full seasons , instead they put that in the last two episodes and the rest was about teams nobody cares about.
 
There was enough material just from the title fight to create two full seasons , instead they put that in the last two episodes and the rest was about teams nobody cares about.

why focus on the best title fight in a generation when you can cut to Bottas et.al sitting with his performance coach and awkwardly talking about some topic the director wants for footage? :lol: :(

Multiple times in the series they seemingly shot scenes where it came across as "ok the director needs you to discuss this topic, can we set up a fake breakfast scene / behind a set of tyres, get you to act it out for the camera."

The breakfast scenes and that weird Russell-Toto behind the shed/tyre :nervous: moment were so bizarre.
 
Anyone but Red Bull and I wouldn’t mind too much. Not because of Max, and certainly not because of Perez. I just really do dislike Horner.

It would be so great to see Ferrari take it. McLaren competing would be great too. And like all 4 of those drivers too. I’d love Williams to compete but that’s just unrealistic.

After that, Mercedes because I just have sympathy for Hamilton and I’d like to see Russell do well.

Quite indifferent to everyone else really although would be nice to see Gasly, Vettel, Schumi and Alonso do well.

I feel the same. Also if red bull run away with it it's max on his own, perez is nowhere near him, whereas ferrari and Mercedes have two really good drivers so there would at least be an inter team title fight.

Ideally like you say all 3 involved.
 
I feel the same. Also if red bull run away with it it's max on his own, perez is nowhere near him, whereas ferrari and Mercedes have two really good drivers so there would at least be an inter team title fight.

Ideally like you say all 3 involved.
You're probably right, though Perez isn't necessarily a bad driver. He did well at Racing Point and has had a few good drives in the Red Bull as well. Red Bull and Max have both said they've made the car more stable at the rear for this year so less tailored towards Max's driving style and easier to drive for most drivers. They felt that with last year's car they went down a development path that benefitted Max but hurt the general performance of the car and made it harder to drive. Also this year it's a brand new car which Perez will have helped develop so it'll probably suit him better. I think there's a good chance Perez will do better this year but we'll see.
 
Another season like 2010 could be on the cards. The races weren't anything special, but the title was a proper back and forth between several drivers.
 
You're probably right, though Perez isn't necessarily a bad driver. He did well at Racing Point and has had a few good drives in the Red Bull as well. Red Bull and Max have both said they've made the car more stable at the rear for this year so less tailored towards Max's driving style and easier to drive for most drivers. They felt that with last year's car they went down a development path that benefitted Max but hurt the general performance of the car and made it harder to drive. Also this year it's a brand new car which Perez will have helped develop so it'll probably suit him better. I think there's a good chance Perez will do better this year but we'll see.

Oh I am not saying he is a bad driver at all. He's definitely good but the gap between him and max is bigger than the gap between sainz and le clerc and I suspect Lewis and George.

So if any team runs away with it, red bull being that team would create the worst spectacle.
 
No surprise that Mazepin senior threatened to pull his funding if they didnt swap Mick and Nikita's cars, because they were paranoid Mick had been given the better parts.

They did find that Mazepin's chassis was heavier than Micks, his Dad even paid for a new one for the Belgian GP and results improved after it. Haas only made one chassis for the start of the 2021 season.
 
when the pumpernickel doesn't snap and lewis thinks the car is a shitbox
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I'll be happy with anyone leading as long as it's not Mercedes. Bored with their dominance and constant downplaying.

That said I don't believe for one second that atleast one of them won't be in the front row next week.