The undercut on the Red Bull is insane.
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Crazy
These pics just makes it feel more and more likely that one team will have got it right and they'll end up being miles ahead of the rest. I really hope I'm wrong but the chances of them having similar performance feels a lot slimmer when the cars are this different, although it's not impossible obviously. Wouldn't surprise me if we'll see more pronounced differences between the cars depending on what type of track it is than we have before as well.
Whats the reason for this week test doesnt have live TV coverage? Anyone knows?
they use this week to see who is fastest and decide which team/driver they will try and nobble to create a narrative for a forthcoming west end musical.
Thats pretty wild
i can expect a lot of complaints about the red bull coming up 
i can expect a lot of complaints about the red bull coming up
only if it’s faster.
That's usually the case unfortunately.
Hopefully though the rest of the pack will be quite closely knit together.
I expect RB/Merc will still be the fastest, maybe Ferrari may have caught them or be close.
Midfield fight between Mclaren/Alphatauri/Alpine should be very tight IMO.
There is literally zero racing right now and the FIA made a massive announcement and change regarding this only last week. Its also a massive talking point for the sport.
If you don't like this conversation then maybe wait till the season starts to join the thread.
Barcelona was added as an extended shakedown period for the teams, behind closed doors, due to all the changes in the regulations and the need for further testing. There's no living timing either. The first 'official' test will be at Bahrain, and should have TV coverage.
Hopefully the sky show tonight should be informative.
Fair points but sweet FA to do with a mistake Hamilton didn't make. If we want to be fair we'd rely on the cars, team and driving and not a mistake brought about by undue influence.
There'll always be an asterisk beside the 2021 Championship unfortunately.
Here's the current leaderboard for today according to Autosport.
- Leclerc, Ferrari, 1m20.165s, C3
- Norris, McLaren, 1m20.474s, C3
- Russell, Mercedes, 1m20.784s, C3
- Vettel, Aston Martin, 1m21.276s, C3
- Tsunoda, AlphaTauri, 1m21.638s, C3
- Verstappen, Red Bull, 1m22.246s, C2
- Alonso, Alpine, 1m23.317s, C3
- Latifi, Williams, 1m23.379s, C3
- Mazepin, Haas, 1m24.505s, C2
- Kubica, Alfa Romeo, 1m25.909s, C3
Only one driver per team has driven so far, the other set of drivers will take over in the afternoon. Don't know why this is though, if the teams only have one car each or if they're doing it to limit the amount of cars on track.
why people are even bothering to look at test times in the first day come on guys...
come on guys...I think everybody is hoping to get a clue about which teams interpreted the new rules best.why people are even bothering to look at test times in the first day
why people are even bothering to look at test times in the first day
It literally means nothing
It's to reduce running costs during testing, and that there's an even playing field. (eg. teams with bigger budgets running two cars because they can afford to).
why people are even bothering to look at test times in the first day
Or you could call it the anniversary of 'Ferrari look strong this year'.
why people are even bothering to look at test times in the first day
I posted the times because @F-Red said there was no official timing being done. I think we all know it's fairly useless info but I thought it was at least a bit more interesting than the constant whine about Masi.
Got it, thanks.
Don't really get why other people seek to censor what others post on an open forum.
Like me, he knows that the result is not going to change.
But that doesn't stop people from feeling so annoyed at the outcome of such an exciting F1 season.
I have been following motor racing since I was a teenager. And I can not remember another occasion when the outcome of a race, let alone the WC was decided by some halfwit of a race director who was so influenced by another team.
He is passionate about the spot and so am I and probably you are well.
And feelings are still running high going into the new season.
@Zlaatan
Didn't mean you personally Just seeing a lot of people getting hyped over times when it's the first day. Ferrari fans on twitter acting like they've won the championship already.
Didn't mean you personally Just seeing a lot of people getting hyped over times when it's the first day. Ferrari fans on twitter acting like they've won the championship already.
Oh no doubt, but we won't know this until first practice in Bahrain.
People tried to say the same about 1990, 1994 and 2008 but I don’t think Senna, Schumacher and Hamilton gave a damn.
No they didnt. You just made that up.
You'll have to remind me why racing incidents as the first part of my comment that you haven't addressed are in any way compared to a decision made by a Race Director under duress from a team manager?
I can't help but feel you wanted to ignore this which may be why you selectively quoted my comment?
As my reply earlier in response to your earlier comment stated, the mistake was not the driver's (Hamilton), the mistake came from the Race Director and the undue influence brought upon by Horner.
Do we need to reach an agreement why Driving Incidents, cheating or mistakes have nothing in common with a Race Director making a decision that was incorrect regarding the re-start of a race?
Why Hamilton would have an Asterisk beside his name in 2008 because Glock had dry tyres on during a rain storm is beyond me I'm afraid, no comparison with cheating or poor Race Staffing. Long been known that Senna and Schumacher would do anything it took, just good form that we choose mostly not to speak ill of either. Schuey tried the same thing again on Hill but was unsuccessful, and Senna did exactly the same thing to Mansell as I recall.
Been watching f1 for 40 years sonny. Racing incidents happen that decide championships, they are controversial at the time but there has never been a f1 championship decided by a race director making up his own rules on the last lap of the last race of the season.
Go educate yourself.
Obviously I can't help you from your dim view however let's just put this to rights. You began by blaming Hamilton for his poor driving and mistakes, my response was that losing the title in the last race was not a driving mistake from Hamilton, rather a mistake made out of his or his team's hands. I have to admit I find it extremely tiresome when a poster can't admit the most basic of errors made by themselves.
Instead you've swung and twisted with bringing up other championships which were dependent on drivers and team decisions, not race directors at all to attempt to save face. I will know better from now on.
51 years myself although I'll admit that the days we used to camp at Silverstone and sneak under the wire fence with my brother and cousins and then meet up with the paying grown ups was spent as a nine and ten year old begging goodies from stalls and teams doing PR.
I can't fathom why people who repeatedly say they are so bored of a discussion go to such extraordinary lengths to be part of it
Thank feck Masi is gone, it's the ultimate piece of evidence that everyone involved in F1 was on the same page about what happened in Abu Dhabi, not even RB tried to defend him in any meaningful way, cause, well, they know too. History will tell what 2021 is remembered for, but I have a feeling some will be very disappointed
Thank feck Masi is gone, it's the ultimate piece of evidence that everyone involved in F1 was on the same page about what happened in Abu Dhabi, not even RB tried to defend him in any meaningful way, cause, well, they know too. History will tell what 2021 is remembered for, but I have a feeling some will be very disappointed
I can't fathom why people who repeatedly say they are so bored of a discussion go to such extraordinary lengths to be part of it
Thank feck Masi is gone, it's the ultimate piece of evidence that everyone involved in F1 was on the same page about what happened in Abu Dhabi, not even RB tried to defend him in any meaningful way, cause, well, they know too. History will tell what 2021 is remembered for, but I have a feeling some will be very disappointed
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Barcelona pre-season test: Day One timesheet
For what they are worth and personally I dont think a great deal, but here they are.
Barcelona pre-season test: Day One timesheet
Barcelona pre-season test: Day One timesheet
| Driver | Team | Time | Tyres | Laps |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1) Lando Norris | McLaren | 1:19.951 | C4 (soft) | 87 |
| 2) Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | 1:20.165 | C3 (medium) | 80 |
| 3) Carlos Sainz | Ferrari | 1:20.416 | C3 | 57 |
| 4) George Russell | Mercedes | 1:20.784 | C3 | 77 |
| 5) Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | 1:20.929 | C3 | 50 |
| 6) Sebastian Vettel | Aston Martin | 1:21.276 | C3 | 52 |
| 7) Yuki Tsunoda | AlphaTauri | 1:21.638 | C3 | 105 |
| 8) Fernando Alonso | Alpine | 1:21.746 | C2 (hard) | 127 |
| 9) Max Verstappen | Red Bull | 1:22.246 | C2 | 147 |
| 10) Valtteri Bottas | Alfa Romeo | 1:22.572 | C3 | 23 |
| 11) Alex Albon | Williams | 1:23.379 | C3 | 66 |
| 12) Mick Schumacher | Haas | 1:22.962 | C3 | 23 |
| 13) Lance Stroll | Aston Martin | 1:23.327 | C2 | 50 |
| 14) Nicholas Latifi | Williams | 1:23.379 | C3 | 66 |
| 15) Nikita Mazepin | Haas | 1:24.505 | C2 | 20 |
| 16) Robert Kubica | Alfa Romeo | 1:25.909 | C3 | 9 |
Interesting that the drivers are saying the cars feel very sluggish because of the extra weight.
I'm sure they'll get used to it but it seems like they're carrying an extra tanks worth of fuel.
The sooner they can kick the hybrid systems the better
I'm sure they'll get used to it but it seems like they're carrying an extra tanks worth of fuel.
The sooner they can kick the hybrid systems the better
He didn't though, this is just flat out wrong and shifting the blame.
The only reason he won that race is because Perez did absolute work for him, and then when he lost that lead again his team made the strategy call to pit under the SC which if the race director adhered to the rules, would have lost them the race and been looked back on as a poor tactical decision by Red Bull but because the director fecked up, ended up working out beautifully for them.
I'm not a Verstappen fan. In fact, I've always tended to support Mclaren or Mclaren-Mercedes drivers in races. I'm not trying to downplay Masi's huge feckup this season. The only reason the final race was the be-all and end-all was that both were tied on points. I like you Z from your werewolf days but I'm not having a weird fetish of blame shifting etc, it's just how I see it. I''m frankly bored by the 'F1 is stacked against Hamilton' posters when the last gazillion races were won by him ffs. I'm sorry, we'll have to disagree on this but I just hope we just move the feck on from last season.
I think Hamilton got the title stolen from him but this is a fair summary.