F1 2022 Season

Zarlak said:
https://www.reuters.com/business/au...says-vw-ceo-2022-05-02/?utm_source=reddit.com

VW CEO stating it confirming Porsche and Audi deciding to enter F1.

Not sure how accurate the below is, though.
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Would be interesting to see if Audi got the entire Mclaren stable or whether the applied technologies part would be outside of the bid.

Also as others have stated would they run as Audi-Mclaren?

Also this couldnt happen before 2026 as Audi would have to pay the other F1 teams $25mil each (total of $250mil) to enter before 2026.

On the roadcar front the most sensible idea would be for Audi to get Mclaren to release SUV. Bentley, Lambo, Ferrari, Aston Martin all have SUVs. Even lotus have a SUV coming. As much i dislike them its a no brainer idea to have one in your stable.

Porsche joining isnt as straight forward as it seems. Some major hurdles to cross as RB think Porsche joining them would effectively give them the same rights as a completely new enterant to F1. Therefore lose the additonal powertrain, CFD, Wind Tunnel development time afforded to a new entrant over what Renault, Ferrari and Mercedes would get as a engine supplier for 2026 season.

Also questions around how VW ensure that there is a chinese wall between Porsche and Audi to ensure IP separation.

Regardless should be fascinating to see how it develops.
 
On a seperate note, Porsche potentially listing as a IPO on the stock market in Q3/Q4 of this year would be interesting. Will have to go to the stocks and shares thread to see if anyone can afford to buy any shares in it on this forum.
 
If anyone has any good F1-related Twitter pages and/or podcasts they'd recommend I'd appreciate if you could send'em on!
 
GDaly95 said:
If anyone has any good F1-related Twitter pages and/or podcasts they'd recommend I'd appreciate if you could send'em on!
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Missed Apex is good, I also like Shift+F1, it's not the most 'technical' podcast but I like the hosts.
 
GDaly95 said:
If anyone has any good F1-related Twitter pages and/or podcasts they'd recommend I'd appreciate if you could send'em on!
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Beyond the Grid podcast is excellent. Pretty much every driver still alive has been interviewed by Tom Arnold for that podcast.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
saddened to hear of the passing of Tony Brooks
F1's last surviving race winner of the 1950s, Brooks was one of the earliest pioneers of the sport .
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For those new to f1 who think it might be strange that there’s not any more (considering the start of the 50’s was only 70 years ago - not unreasonable to think some may still be alive in their late 80’s) - drivers rarely entered f1 before their 30’s back then. In fact s22-24 was rare up until around Schumacher in the early 90’s. I think Senna et el were in their mid 20’s when they cracked f1.
 
mariachi-19 said:
For those new to f1 who think it might be strange that there’s not any more (considering the start of the 50’s was only 70 years ago - not unreasonable to think some may still be alive in their late 80’s) - drivers rarely entered f1 before their 30’s back then. In fact s22-24 was rare up until around Schumacher in the early 90’s. I think Senna et el were in their mid 20’s when they cracked f1.
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Nigel Mansell was 27 when he started, and won the championship when he was 39.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
saddened to hear of the passing of Tony Brooks
F1's last surviving race winner of the 1950s, Brooks was one of the earliest pioneers of the sport .
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I will watch latwr. Its really interesting to hear about F1 in the 50s/60s/70s, i.e. before my time.
 
The Firestarter said:
But but so much downforce?:confused:
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But is that not part of the problem ?


The root cause of why Mercedes is struggling in the new F1 season is due to the bouncing that has badly affected the car.
As part of the new technical rules, ground effect has returned to F1 after decades away.
Essentially, you want to run your car as close to the track as possible to create downforce.
However, as the Mercedes is picking up downforce at high speed, the ride height of the car decreases.
This stops the airflow underneath the car – which causes it to raise slightly.
The car then lowers again as it picks up downforce, causing the whole cycle to begin again.


The reason why Mercedes is struggling so much in Formula 1 2022 (hitc.com)
 
The Firestarter said:
But but so much downforce?:confused:
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pauldyson1uk said:
But is that not part of the problem ?


The root cause of why Mercedes is struggling in the new F1 season is due to the bouncing that has badly affected the car.
As part of the new technical rules, ground effect has returned to F1 after decades away.
Essentially, you want to run your car as close to the track as possible to create downforce.
However, as the Mercedes is picking up downforce at high speed, the ride height of the car decreases.
This stops the airflow underneath the car – which causes it to raise slightly.
The car then lowers again as it picks up downforce, causing the whole cycle to begin again.


The reason why Mercedes is struggling so much in Formula 1 2022 (hitc.com)
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I suppose if you think of it this way.

Skinny sidepods = maximum potential, but if you can't figure a way out to find that your car is only running at 50%

other sidepods = less maximum potential, but no porpoising and much easier to drive. Able to run lower and achieve better performance at 80%.

Maybe the skinny sidepods in theory are better but it's just too hard to make work properly, and actually making them slower rather than faster.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
But is that not part of the problem ?


The root cause of why Mercedes is struggling in the new F1 season is due to the bouncing that has badly affected the car.
As part of the new technical rules, ground effect has returned to F1 after decades away.
Essentially, you want to run your car as close to the track as possible to create downforce.
However, as the Mercedes is picking up downforce at high speed, the ride height of the car decreases.
This stops the airflow underneath the car – which causes it to raise slightly.
The car then lowers again as it picks up downforce, causing the whole cycle to begin again.


The reason why Mercedes is struggling so much in Formula 1 2022 (hitc.com)
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My comment was on the narrative that Mercedes had some much downforce due to the ingenius sidepods , and "just" have to eliminate the porpoising. I am aware how ground effect works.
 
ChaddyP said:
imaging having to abandon an entire philosophy half way into the season. This will have ripple effects throughout the entire era of this car. They will forever be playing catch up to ferrari and redbull
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Not sure if ditching the tiny sidepods alone will help with the bouncing. Ferrari went with sidepods of the size of Abramovich's yacht and they bounce as well.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
This is interesting
Mercedes To Ditch Zero Pods If Miami Upgrades To Tackle Porpoising Fail

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Watched the video, it didn't add anything new information wise.

The title of the video is abit clickbait imho. The upgrades that are coming arent going to resolve the porposing entirely and never were. They are meant to be an improvement over where the car is currently. They are meant to show Mercedes themselves if they are going in the right direction to start to get ontop of the porposing issue. Personally i hope they do resolve the issues and can make the skinny sidepods work.
 
According to what I see on facebook and twitter comment sections, here is what we can conclude thus far:

Hamilton 4 races - he is a fraud, lacks motivation and should quit.

Schumacher 3 races - he is a nobody, he did not even deserve his F3 and F2 titles as it was his Schumacher name who drove the cars. He should be booted from F1 half-season if not earlier.


Lewis has built up a dedicated base of haters throughout the years, which we all have seen.

Mick on the other hand has inherited most of his from his father. I´ve been in conversation with a dozen of people, mostly brits who admits that they have waited 25-30 years for the time when they will finally be able to have revenge and slag the Schumacher name in the mud with all they got! Even better when his dad can not defend him they claim, Mick does not have the experience Lewis does handling that kind of onslaught, we will see how he gets by!

For both HAM and SCH, perhaps we could assess them after 12 races instead of 4 and 3?
 
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Lightbringer said:
I´ve been in conversation with a dozen of people, mostly brits who admits that they have waited 25-30 years for the time when they will finally be able to have revenge and slag the Schumacher name in the mud with all they got! Even better when his dad can not defend him they claim
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Lightbringer said:
I forgot to include reddit & instagram as prime sources :-)
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There are lunatics in all countries. People dislike successful people or teams.

Just like Manchester United was/is hated across the land, so was Schumacher, so is Hamilton now.

We are seeing the same thing for Mercedes/Hamilton at present. Rivalries are what make sport ineresting though.

I very much doubt many people dislike Mick either. The kid seems like a very nice down to earth person.
 
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