F1 2022 Season

Forgot the race was on, toddler woke me up. Was making him breakfast and alexa read out the news which included the race results. Bollocks. Anyway caught up with the thread. Will watch the race tonight now after toddler is asleep.

I hate knowing the result of a GP without watching it first, but shit happens.

Lastly, dont know why anyone rises to the rubbish that mariachi-19 posts. I've never added anyone to my ignore list on here, despite how heated it gets at times. But hes close. Got a lewis sized chip on his shoulder.
 
17Larsson said:
Rather than speaking in tongues I'd rather you own and say clearly what you are suggesting. If it's what I think it is then I think it's a disgraceful accusation to make against another poster.

This is sport, we all 'hate' certain opposition players/teams, formula 1 is no different in that way
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I'm saying it's piss poor and for the digging to go on in this manner then one of the above has to be attributable and I don't have to say eff all just because you want me to.
 
oates said:
I've been following F1 for nearly fifty years and I've never seen such like behaviour from any fans. You're the one to identify Racism, have a look at yourself because you don't necessarily have to be one to look an awful lot like one.
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Are you fecking kidding, just look at the shit against max since November last year. Schumacher has kopped it from British fans the moment Damon Hill threw it up the inside at Adelaide and pissed away his title hopes.

Mate you’re inferring racism so of course I’m going to defend myself? feck off with that shit.

Or is it everyone that doesn’t like Lewis now racist? Despite him having a generally unlikeable kardashian like personality or that he’s dominated the sport in the best cars for 8 years?

I mean is every pool or city fan giving United shit, racist because we have high profile black players?
 
mariachi-19 said:
Are you fecking kidding, just look at the shit against max since November last year. Schumacher has kopped it from British fans the moment Damon Hill threw it up the inside at Adelaide and pissed away his title hopes.

Mate you’re inferring racism so of course I’m going to defend myself? feck off with that shit.

Or is it everyone that doesn’t like Lewis now racist? Despite him having a generally unlikeable kardashian like personality or that he’s dominated the sport in the best cars for 8 years?

I mean is every pool or city fan giving United shit, racist because we have high profile black players?
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You said Racism, I gave other reasons but it's up to you to look at yourself.

Schumacher kopped it because of all sorts of reasons which I'm not going into but if you're saying it's something to do with Hill being taken out in Adelaide then I think you've got it the wrong way around.
 
oates said:
You said Racism, I gave other reasons but it's up to you to look at yourself.

Schumacher kopped it because of all sorts of reasons which I'm not going into but if you're saying it's something to do with Hill being taken out in Adelaide then I think you've got it the wrong way around.
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Schumacher took the racing line he was entitled to do, Hill was just too impatient and fecked himself.

And if you hadn’t noticed, most of my digs have been at Mercedes and their deluded fans on this forum thinking they’re going to make up 50+ second a race by race no. 6.

Lewis acting like a twat in the race over the radio is just the fire starter because him acting like that when he’s been in this position is what we’ve seen his entire career. The same way Schumacher parking it at Monaco in 2006 brought up the bad memories
 
mariachi-19 said:
Schumacher took the racing line he was entitled to do, Hill was just too impatient and fecked himself.
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If you say so. I don't know how many racing lines you need when your car has broken down.
 
mariachi-19 said:
Schumacher took the racing line he was entitled to do, Hill was just too impatient and fecked himself.

And if you hadn’t noticed, most of my digs have been at Mercedes and their deluded fans on this forum thinking they’re going to make up 50+ second a race by race no. 6.

Lewis acting like a twat in the race over the radio is just the fire starter because him acting like that when he’s been in this position is what we’ve seen his entire career. The same way Schumacher parking it at Monaco in 2006 brought up the bad memories
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acting like a twat ???
Why because he asked about the SC and said Russell got some of his luck, dont see that being a twat.
The last message we saw , yes it was him moaning, but his engine was overheating frustration , perfectly understandable, but again not being a twat.
 
mariachi-19 said:
If you’re inferring that I’m being racist, you need to have a word with yourself.

Perhaps you should see the shit Schumacher kopped during his career from British fans before you open your mouth
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He was more implying you're a puerile agenda poster, which you are.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
We are not going to agree on this, I dont see the chip on the shoulder or entitlement.
We only hear what Sky or FIA want us to hear we dont hear all of the conversation.
Alone does not and never has liked Lewis.
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Correct.
 
mariachi-19 said:
Schumacher took the racing line he was entitled to do, Hill was just too impatient and fecked himself.

And if you hadn’t noticed, most of my digs have been at Mercedes and their deluded fans on this forum thinking they’re going to make up 50+ second a race by race no. 6.

Lewis acting like a twat in the race over the radio is just the fire starter because him acting like that when he’s been in this position is what we’ve seen his entire career. The same way Schumacher parking it at Monaco in 2006 brought up the bad memories
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For someone who has been apparently following F1 for 50 years, you dont half come across badly on here.

This season is a new era in F1, biggest changes in F1 for 40 years. It will take teams time to understand and and unlock the potential of their cars. The grid order will change throughout the season. By race 10 ferrari will have the least amount of CFD and wind tunnel time, Mercedes will gain more (presuming they are 3rd or 4th in constructors at that point).

No one anticipated porposing nor can they test for it in CFD or wind tunnels. Until thats resolved we wont see the true potential of any car on the grid (RB aside whos clever suspension setup, seems to have eradicated porposing).

So the likes of Mercedes making up the gap to ferrari or RB isnt impossible now. Previous seasons yes, it would have been impossible.

Fair enough that you think Mercedes have a Turkey of a car, whereas myself and @paulydyson1 think they might come good. We will find out with time. Nothing wrong with good hearted banter which does get heated at times.

But you do need to think before you post mate, sometimes your posts come across badly and i can understand why one or two think they border on racism even though that wasnt the intent.
 
mariachi-19 said:
Welcome to the last 15 years. He hasn’t stopped whinging since he entered the sport which is why people don’t like him.

it get 10x as bad when he’s challenged by his team mates or doesn’t have the quickest car.
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And you haven't stopped whinging since you entered the thread.

I've seen you've started with the "British" angle now too, and you wonder why people question your agenda.
 
mariachi-19 said:
If you’re inferring that I’m being racist, you need to have a word with yourself.

Perhaps you should see the shit Schumacher kopped during his career from British fans before you open your mouth
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Was that really racism.
I can well remember the Schumacher era and some of it was because of what he did to Hill.
Some of it was because the racing was boring and predictable.
And some of it was simply because he was such an unlikable narcissistic git.
And that my friend is not racism.
 
mariachi-19 said:
Schumacher took the racing line he was entitled to do, Hill was just too impatient and fecked himself.

And if you hadn’t noticed, most of my digs have been at Mercedes and their deluded fans on this forum thinking they’re going to make up 50+ second a race by race no. 6.

Lewis acting like a twat in the race over the radio is just the fire starter because him acting like that when he’s been in this position is what we’ve seen his entire career. The same way Schumacher parking it at Monaco in 2006 brought up the bad memories
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Well at least we can all see that you are not at all biased...
 
Buster15 said:
Was that really racism.
I can well remember the Schumacher era and some of it was because of what he did to Hill.
Some of it was because the racing was boring and predictable.
And some of it was simply because he was such an unlikable narcissistic git.
And that my friend is not racism.
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so for the same reasons I don’t like Hamilton? But I’m racist?
 
R'hllor said:
Why is Lewis such a baby about something that team couldnt control :wenger:
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mariachi-19 said:
Welcome to the last 15 years. He hasn’t stopped whinging since he entered the sport which is why people don’t like him.

it get 10x as bad when he’s challenged by his team mates or doesn’t have the quickest car.
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It wasn’t the safety car he was complaining about at the end, he was being told to lift and coast every time he was just about to get into DRS range.
 
Redlambs said:
And you haven't stopped whinging since you entered the thread.

I've seen you've started with the "British" angle now too, and you wonder why people question your agenda.
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No, it’s pointing out that different fans like different drivers and just because you don’t like a driver from the way they conduct themselves in a sport (which is usually associated by supporters of the opposition who have been on the receiving end of a hammering or two) you cannot expect them to like that same person or that team.

It’s no different to pointing out the fact that Max and Redbull fans have had to endure a multitude of shit on this forum for the last 4 months despite Max doing nothing wrong other than driving his car past their favourite driver to a world title. Christian Horner did what every person in his position would do and lobbied for green flag racing knowing it would be advantageous for his driver.

Also, I’m just on here pointing out facts like the Merc is a dog and Hamilton moans a shit load when things don’t go his way. It’s not unsurprising it pisses off Hamilton fans on a predominantly biased forum.
 
Buster15 said:
Was that really racism.
I can well remember the Schumacher era and some of it was because of what he did to Hill.
Some of it was because the racing was boring and predictable.
And some of it was simply because he was such an unlikable narcissistic git.
And that my friend is not racism.
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Isn't most of what you posted also true for Hamilton, so why do people get so worked up when a couple of posters show their dislike for him. Max has received a lot of flak for his title win last season, controversial as it may have been (not his fault), but I don't see the same passionate defending of him.

Lewis comes across as a complete moaner to me even during the best of times, so it's not really a shocker that people dislike that side of his personality, especially seeing that he has won 5 out of the last 7 WDC.
 
mariachi-19 said:
No, it’s pointing out that different fans like different drivers and just because you don’t like a driver from the way they conduct themselves in a sport (which is usually associated by supporters of the opposition who have been on the receiving end of a hammering or two) you cannot expect them to like that same person or that team.

It’s no different to pointing out the fact that Max and Redbull fans have had to endure a multitude of shit on this forum for the last 4 months despite Max doing nothing wrong other than driving his car past their favourite driver to a world title. Christian Horner did what every person in his position would do and lobbied for green flag racing knowing it would be advantageous for his driver.

Also, I’m just on here pointing out facts like the Merc is a dog and Hamilton moans a shit load when things don’t go his way. It’s not unsurprising it pisses off Hamilton fans on a predominantly biased forum.
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And you are being every bit as bad.

It's childish hypocrisy to carry on like you do, you can justify it all you want but both sides have been as bad as each other which is why the rest of us can thank feck Ferrari look like they've got this.
 
Classic Hamilton being a whiney twat again when everything doesn’t fall into place for him.
 
Will check out the highlights later, not seen anything of the race yet but pleased for CLC and Ferrari :)
 
mariachi-19 said:
There’s been no bigger competitor in this sport than Schumacher… in his entire history, he never once pissed and moaned on the Radio from my recollection.

The difference between Lewis and the others is that most of them whinge about events on the track, not blame their team for not giving them what they feel entitled to.

Even Seb I haven’t heard blame his teams on the radio but they be different back in the Webber days.
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I love Michael. He’s my favourite driver of all time.
But we simply didn’t hear radio transmissions back then.
If you think he wasn’t on the radio back in Austria 02 for example demanding that Rubéns let him past then I massively disagree. And Michael often did get the preferential treatment from his team so had less to moan about.
 
Early days but that's a huge lead for what looks to be the fastest car and arguably one of the best drivers.

Ferrrari seem to have a car that is proper fast in all conditions, I think at the moment Red Bull will only win at the higher speed tracks. Anything with a lot of corners Ferrari will win at a canter.

Mercedes somehow keep digging out results with a half working car. If they can get their act together they might still win the constructors :lol:

It seems like Red Bull made a deal with the devil last year, their luck sure has changed.
 
mariachi-19 said:
Also, I’m just on here pointing out facts like the Merc is a dog and Hamilton moans a shit load when things don’t go his way. It’s not unsurprising it pisses off Hamilton fans on a predominantly biased forum.
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People on here are just pointing out facts that you're a whinge bag in this forum.

You don't like Hamilton, we get it, move on.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
acting like a twat ???
Why because he asked about the SC and said Russell got some of his luck, dont see that being a twat.
The last message we saw , yes it was him moaning, but his engine was overheating frustration , perfectly understandable, but again not being a twat.
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Come on man Hamilton is held to different standards to all the other drivers you should know this by now. All the other drivers are allowed to have a moan except him.

Anyway, George and Lewis are getting the best out of the car at the moment. Mercedes seem to have made some small improvements but still a way off Ferrari/Red Bull. Leclerc is brilliant and he's going to run away with this championship.
 
Hamilton clearly and rightfully still resents the blatant robbery he had to endure last season… yet global sport is 50% entertainment these days and any prolonged dominance does not help keep the interest high. Other than that, any fan base is biased and no top level sportman is immaculate… add to this, drivers really risk their life, so it’s a double hammer to see entertainment prevail (that’s why that race master was sacked indeed). As for Mercedes’ troubles, you know… the car always makes 80% of the result, the rest being how cool the driver’s head can stay under pressure and Verstappen… nope, he is not able to keep his cool at all yet, that’s also why so many are still questioning the cadeau he got last year.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Early days but that's a huge lead for what looks to be the fastest car and arguably one of the best drivers.

Ferrrari seem to have a car that is proper fast in all conditions, I think at the moment Red Bull will only win at the higher speed tracks. Anything with a lot of corners Ferrari will win at a canter.

Mercedes somehow keep digging out results with a half working car. If they can get their act together they might still win the constructors :lol:

It seems like Red Bull made a deal with the devil last year, their luck sure has changed.
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It may get worse for RB as its rumoured that ferrari have either a new diffuser or floor coming for imola. If they dial out the porposing that car will only get quicker.

Unfortunately for max, sainz is not taking any points off leclerc at moment and i wouldnt be surprised if team orders kick in already. Could be a one horse race to the finish, which is what no one wants this season.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
Come on man Hamilton is held to different standards to all the other drivers you should know this by now. All the other drivers are allowed to have a moan except him.

Anyway, George and Lewis are getting the best out of the car at the moment. Mercedes seem to have made some small improvements but still a way off Ferrari/Red Bull. Leclerc is brilliant and he's going to run away with this championship.
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Other than the thinner rear wing introduced at jeddah, there are no upgrades on the Mercedes. They raise the ride height for the race (which is allowed under parc fermme i think). The new floor (whenever it arrives) has to have the same effect on the car that RBs new floor did on the first day of the second test. i.e. dial out most if not all of the porposing. Easier said than done, their season is riding literally on this new floor.

Curious as to whether they go with the alpine approach of a more rigid but heavier floor and remove the stays. Or the RB approach of creating more mini vortices off the bleeding edge of the floor either side of the car to create a virtual air curtain to seal the floor.
 
dinostar77 said:
It may get worse for RB as its rumoured that ferrari have either a new diffuser or floor coming for imola. If they dial out the porposing that car will only get quicker.

Unfortunately for max, sainz is not taking any points off leclerc at moment and i wouldnt be surprised if team orders kick in already. Could be a one horse race to the finish, which is what no one wants this season.
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One of the funnier things i've seen going around "oh just wait for RB/Merc upgrades"....like Ferrari are just sitting around twiddling thumbs :lol:
 
If I was RB’s PR department I’d be telling Christian Horner to try sound just a tad more upbeat when talking about his nr.2 driver making a podium finish.
It’s a hard life being RB’s driver nr.2
 
Apparently lewis was running a heavier car than russell, by 1.5kg. Lewis had addition sensors added to his car as Mercedes look to get insight into the porposing issues.
 
dinostar77 said:
Apparently lewis was running a heavier car than russell, by 1.5kg. Lewis had addition sensors added to his car as Mercedes look to get insight into the porposing issues.
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Thats probably the bodyweight difference between them both anyway, I wouldn't say this is a big difference.
 
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