F1 2021 Season

Well that was a slow burner wasnt it. Though Lewis would have overtaken max the lap max he came in for for his stop. Good strategy by Mercs though i thought it would be too much of an ask to pull off.

Bottas is a prat. If he wants to keep his drive for next season he needs to do as hes told and get the feck out of Lewis's way.

Perez needs to switch over to his own setup and stop using verstappen's car setup as its not doing him any favours.
 
You say that but Red Bull / Verstappen would most likely be winning the championship this year if not for Hamilton.
It isnt as simple as people think. Getting the tyred into the right operating window is key. Some tracks will suit the Mercs better than the Mercedes. RB on long runs seem to be better on Softs than Merc. But Merc seem to be better on Med than RB on long runs.

It wouldnt suprise me if Verstappen won Monaco. I think RB have an advantage on the softs and that will give them pole and possibly the race win next weekend.

Its gonna be nip and tuck for a good while yet. The closer this battle is the more it will cost both teams in terms of next years car development. Ferrari have already said 95% of their resources are committed to the 2022 car.
 
Well that was a slow burner wasnt it. Though Lewis would have overtaken max the lap max he came in for for his stop. Good strategy by Mercs though i thought it would be too much of an ask to pull off.

Bottas is a prat. If he wants to keep his drive for next season he needs to do as hes told and get the feck out of Lewis's way.

Perez needs to switch over to his own setup and stop using verstappen's car setup as its not doing him any favours.

He's been Merc's perfect little lap dog for over 4 years now, I think he's earned the right to show how fed up he is about it even though he's known even before he signed for them that this would be his role.
 
You say that but Red Bull / Verstappen would most likely be winning the championship this year if not for Hamilton.
Could be, if hypothetically Mercedes truly fecked up their choice of drivers. But that's like saying Red Bull wouldn't be on the podium without Verstappen. Which is probably true too. But it all depends on who you'd put in their place doesn't it? Fact is, Mercedes still have the best car so if the drivers are equal they win.
 
A few posters are being pretty harsh on Red Bull’s strategists. It caught out the commentators, Red Bull and I didn’t see any posters calling for it beforehand (although I was watching the United game too).
 
Bottas is a prat. If he wants to keep his drive for next season he needs to do as hes told and get the feck out of Lewis's way.

Rumour from a credible podcast is that he's been told already that he's not getting his contract renewed for next season.
 
Also what is it about the second Red Bull driver falling to pieces/seriously underperforming as soon as they become the second Red Bull driver? Perez seems to be really struggling more than I thought he would so far.
 
Rumour from a credible podcast is that he's been told already that he's not getting his contract renewed for next season.

Hes not stupid, he surely knows unless he has a season like Rosberg in 2016 he must realise that theres very little chance he would be kept. Going against team orders and making things difficult probably not such a good idea though.
 
He's been Merc's perfect little lap dog for over 4 years now, I think he's earned the right to show how fed up he is about it even though he's known even before he signed for them that this would be his role.

His timing of doing that couldn't have been worse though. He's had numerous opportunities over the years on similar tyres and similar strategies, but he decides to defend his position when Hamilton is 1.5 seconds a lap faster than him and is on tyres that give him no opportunity to defend. Result is Bottas loses position on the 3rd corner :lol:
 
Rumour from a credible podcast is that he's been told already that he's not getting his contract renewed for next season.
I think today was a perfect proof that he definitely isn't staying.

He'd rather cost Hamilton the chance of winning, I hope when it's Bottas' turn he does exactly the same, watch him cry on the radio.
 
I think today was a perfect proof that he definitely isn't staying.

He'd rather cost Hamilton the chance of winning, I hope when it's Bottas' turn he does exactly the same, watch him cry on the radio.
It wasn't so bad today, if he did that at monaco, it would surely screw up the race. Anyway lewis probably wants to keep bottas in the team rather than have the challenge of George Russell to contend with. Though give russell a season or so and i think he would be more rosberg than bottas.
 
It wasn't so bad today, if he did that at monaco, it would surely screw up the race. Anyway lewis probably wants to keep bottas in the team rather than have the challenge of George Russell to contend with. Though give russell a season or so and i think he would be more rosberg than bottas.
Mainly because Hamilton's tyres were so new he had no chance to defend, but that 2 or 3 seconds extra he lost while trying to chase Verstappen down could have cost him.

He's an absolute baby, I have no idea why he even thinks he's got a chance at the title, just look how far behind he is every race. It'll be Hamilton and Russell next year.
 
It wasn't so bad today, if he did that at monaco, it would surely screw up the race. Anyway lewis probably wants to keep bottas in the team rather than have the challenge of George Russell to contend with. Though give russell a season or so and i think he would be more rosberg than bottas.

But Hamilton just loves a challenge and Russell would give him exactly that.
 
Mainly because Hamilton's tyres were so new he had no chance to defend, but that 2 or 3 seconds extra he lost while trying to chase Verstappen down could have cost him.

He's an absolute baby, I have no idea why he even thinks he's got a chance at the title, just look how far behind he is every race. It'll be Hamilton and Russell next year.

Now that would be fantastic.
 
Mainly because Hamilton's tyres were so new he had no chance to defend, but that 2 or 3 seconds extra he lost while trying to chase Verstappen down could have cost him.

He's an absolute baby, I have no idea why he even thinks he's got a chance at the title, just look how far behind he is every race. It'll be Hamilton and Russell next year.
To be fair , in the last 2 races, Max has pitted to get the fastest lap, today he got the extra point, last week track limits got him.
The last 2 races, Lewis's experience and strategy has beaten Max, I bet Lewis had a say in the second pit, a radio message that we did not hear. Red Bull strategists are a bit like Ole and his subs, sometime they dont have a clue.
 
Lewis certainly looking the better driver and with better package. But 14 point gap can change in one race, or with one new car development.

Will be tight.
 
Lewis certainly looking the better driver and with better package. But 14 point gap can change in one race, or with one new car development.

Will be tight.

I agree and seemingly Bottas isn’t going to play the team game. Bottas has far more capability to be taking points away from Hamilton than Perez does from Max and that could be key.

The top 3 is going to be fairly consistent and that means nobody will streak ahead on points, it may come down to reliability.
 
The last 2 races, Lewis's experience and strategy has beaten Max, I bet Lewis had a say in the second pit, a radio message that we did not hear.

All Mercedes to be fair, their Q2 run indicated that they were looking for an extra set of mediums for the race. This wasn't an off the cuff call today, and one stopping at Barcelona is a very difficult strategy to work.
 
The risk Bottas runs is losing the seat mid-season. Bottas' main job is to spoil.Max's weekends, whether that's out qualifying him, beating him in the race or taking away strategic options. He does those 3 things adequetly, but what he did today was beyond the pale team wise.
 
The risk Bottas runs is losing the seat mid-season. Bottas' main job is to spoil.Max's weekends, whether that's out qualifying him, beating him in the race or taking away strategic options. He does those 3 things adequately, but what he did today was beyond the pale team wise.
I dont think he will lose his seat this season, it is a given , he wont be at Mercedes next season and Russell will take his seat.
His actions today were understandable, frustration and not really wanting to let Lewis past, but Lewis was 1-1.5 second a lap faster, making Lewis actually perform a real overtake was just Bottas throwing his toys out, it did not affect Lewis in the end.
Bottas is a good driver and I think would walk in to any of the top teams, if he had not been racing at the same time as Lewis, he would've had a couple of WC by now.
Toto will have a word, dont think we will see it happen again.
 
To be fair , in the last 2 races, Max has pitted to get the fastest lap, today he got the extra point, last week track limits got him.
The last 2 races, Lewis's experience and strategy has beaten Max, I bet Lewis had a say in the second pit, a radio message that we did not hear. Red Bull strategists are a bit like Ole and his subs, sometime they dont have a clue.
I meant Bottas. he’s nowhere near the pace of hamilton and verstappen.

for the way he acts you’d think every point matters, but we all know he’ll end up 50+ points behind. his talks of having a run at the title, i’m not sure he even believes it now.
 
I dont think he will lose his seat this season, it is a given , he wont be at Mercedes next season and Russell will take his seat.
His actions today were understandable, frustration and not really wanting to let Lewis past, but Lewis was 1-1.5 second a lap faster, making Lewis actually perform a real overtake was just Bottas throwing his toys out, it did not affect Lewis in the end.
Bottas is a good driver and I think would walk in to any of the top teams, if he had not been racing at the same time as Lewis, he would've had a couple of WC by now.
Toto will have a word, dont think we will see it happen again.
Bottas is miles behind Hamilton. He massively underperforms versus Hamilton even compared with Rosberg did if you look at points gap.

If I was being very kind to Bottas, I would say he is as good a driver as Perez. But that is a disservice to Perez.
 
Bottas is miles behind Hamilton. He massively underperforms versus Hamilton even compared with Rosberg did if you look at points gap.

If I was being very kind to Bottas, I would say he is as good a driver as Perez. But that is a disservice to Perez.
Perez is also a massively overacted driver. Neither Perez or Bottas are anywhere near WDC standard.
 
Bottas on the right track is competitive with Lewis in quali, but his race pace is shocking. He wouldn't have been WC because there are so many other more hungry and quicker drivers.
 
Hamilton is just so much better than everyone else. He’s a stone cold killer. Ice in his veins. Mature, calm, precise, and ruthlessly consistent. You put him in the Red Bull car and I’d bet my bottom dollar he’d win the WC.
 
Hilarious how people on here still buy into the Merc underdog rhetoric :lol:

The Red Bull car has been quicker all season, albeit by fine margins. Their car is built for their lead driver to get the max out of it (pun intended). Merc build a fast car for both drivers.

Difference is that Merc have the best driver on the grid, period.
 
The Red Bull car has been quicker all season, albeit by fine margins. Their car is built for their lead driver to get the max out of it (pun intended). Merc build a fast car for both drivers.

Difference is that Merc have the best driver on the grid, period.

I don't know if I agree with that, they weren't faster yesterday and they definitely weren't last week either so it's 2/4 races at best.
 
The Red Bull car has been quicker all season, albeit by fine margins. Their car is built for their lead driver to get the max out of it (pun intended). Merc build a fast car for both drivers.

Difference is that Merc have the best driver on the grid, period.

Sorry mate but that’s absolute bollocks.

Mercedes threw everything behind Lewis the moment Rosberg packed his bags. They, like Reubens and Michael, have zero interest in Bottas winning except to ensure they win the constructors.

They may have the best driver on the grid in the best car, but there are a number of drivers that would produce the goods in that Mercedes.
 
Sorry mate but that’s absolute bollocks.

Mercedes threw everything behind Lewis the moment Rosberg packed his bags. They, like Reubens and Michael, have zero interest in Bottas winning except to ensure they win the constructors.

They may have the best driver on the grid in the best car, but there are a number of drivers that would produce the goods in that Mercedes.

I don’t think there are any other drivers who would produce the goods in the consistent way Hamilton has. He makes it look easy. He never caves under pressure. The amount of times he’s brought the car home for a win or podium finish with stripped tires is insane. He just does it race after race after race, season after season. He’s a phenomenon. There are lots of drivers who could do it for a race, or even a season, but to do it year after year as he has, is pretty much unrivalled.

His brilliance gets regularly dismissed as having the best car, which really does his momentous achievements a disservice. It’s borderline disrespectful, and you wonder if a white driver would have to face the same level of scrutiny and doubt. In an age where media focus on driver behaviour is relentless, I have always appreciated Hamilton’s classy persona and stand for equality. It contrasts markedly to Verstappen, who despite being a great driver, is already on record calling fellow drivers “p*ssy”, “ret*rd” and “Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime*l”. But likely because of his ethnicity, he gets a pass.

As for the car, the Red Bull is set up for Verstappen. All their second drivers have to adjust to his set up, and adjust their driving style. Perez said as much recently. They are all in on Max as is obvious in all the behind the scenes footage, as well as comments directly from Horner. Mercedes just produce the best car they can, regardless of the driver, and It’s only because of Hamilton’s individual brilliance that he’s always ahead of Bottas, not the set up of the car. In fact we’ve seen many times Bottas grabbing poles because he can be lightening quick over a single lap and isn’t disadvantaged by having a favoured team mate in set up and design. He just doesn’t have the consistent brilliance of Hamilton or the nerves of steel to do it 60-70 times in a row under pressure and produce the same race results. When Hamilton is consistently quicker across a race, and has a chance of winning, and Bottas isn’t posting that pace, of course they ask him to move over. But they don’t give him a disadvantaged set up.

So I don’t think it’s bollocks at all. I think Hamilton is that good, that experienced, consistent and canny, that you could put him in the Red Bull and he’ll still win the title; or you put him in the McLaren and he competes for it. Even in the first two races of this season where the Red Bull was clearly a lot faster, Hamilton found a way to pull it out of his arse to be competitive and even win one of the races, when realistically given the pace of the two cars, he had no right to.

Verstappen is a great driver but he’s not Hamilton’s level yet, and there’s no guarantee he ever will be. This is even as Hamilton nears the end of his career and Verstappen is around his peak. This year with a car that’s just as good as the Merc, and sometimes better, and with a team focused purely on him, catering to him, and a car built to suit just him, he really should be winning the title or taking it to the wire if he’s as good as so many seem to say he is. Now with Red Bull poaching half of Mercedes technical team, maybe they’ll find a way to break Hamilton.

Red Bull constantly throw away a meaningful constructors challenge because their second driver is an after thought, as Horner basically fellates Max with gleeful abandon. His favouritism to his golden child does the team a disservice IMO.

Red Bull burned through three really talented young drivers in Ricciardo, Albon, and Gasly in order to feed Horner’s Verstappen fetish. And now they are poaching most of Mercedes garage and technical department to try and take the next step. I have to say that I am generally not a fan of their team, management, or approach, whilst still being able to appreciate the talent of their driver line up. But this shouldn’t come as a surprise when their team principal is someone as narcissistic and self involved as Christian Horner.
 
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I don’t think there are any other drivers who would produce the goods in the consistent way Hamilton has. He makes it look easy. He never caves under pressure. The amount of times he’s brought the car home for a win or podium finish with stripped tires is insane. He just does it race after race after race, season after season. He’s a phenomenon. There are lots of drivers who could do it for a race, or even a season, but to do it year after year as he has, is pretty much unrivalled.

His brilliance gets regularly dismissed as having the best car, which really does his momentous achievements a disservice. It’s borderline disrespectful, and you wonder if a white driver would have to face the same level of scrutiny and doubt. In an age where media focus on driver behaviour is relentless, I have always appreciated Hamilton’s classy persona and stand for equality. It contrasts markedly to Verstappen, who despite being a great driver, is already on record calling fellow drivers “p*ssy”, “ret*rd” and “Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime*l”. But likely because of his ethnicity, he gets a pass.

As for the car, the Red Bull is set up for Verstappen. All their second drivers have to adjust to his set up, and adjust their driving style. Perez said as much recently. They are all in on Max as is obvious in all the behind the scenes footage, as well as comments directly from Horner. Mercedes just produce the best car they can, regardless of the driver, and It’s only because of Hamilton’s individual brilliance that he’s always ahead of Bottas, not the set up of the car. In fact we’ve seen many times Bottas grabbing poles because he can be lightening quick over a single lap and isn’t disadvantaged by having a favoured team mate in set up and design. He just doesn’t have the consistent brilliance of Hamilton or the nerves of steel to do it 60-70 times in a row under pressure and produce the same race results. When Hamilton is consistently quicker across a race, and has a chance of winning, and Bottas isn’t posting that pace, of course they ask him to move over. But they don’t give him a disadvantaged set up.

So I don’t think it’s bollocks at all. I think Hamilton is that good, that experienced, consistent and canny, that you could put him in the Red Bull and he’ll still win the title; or you put him in the McLaren and he competes for it. Even in the first two races of this season where the Red Bull was clearly a lot faster, Hamilton found a way to pull it out of his arse to be competitive and even win one of the races, when realistically given the pace of the two cars, he had no right to.

Verstappen is a great driver but he’s not Hamilton’s level yet, and there’s no guarantee he ever will be. This is even as Hamilton nears the end of his career and Verstappen is around his peak. This year with a car that’s just as good as the Merc, and sometimes better, and with a team focused purely on him, catering to him, and a car built to suit just him, he really should be winning the title or taking it to the wire if he’s as good as so many seem to say he is. Now with Red Bull poaching half of Mercedes technical team, maybe they’ll find a way to break Hamilton.

Red Bull constantly throw away a meaningful constructors challenge because their second driver is an after thought, as Horner basically fellates Max with gleeful abandon. His favouritism to his golden child does the team a disservice IMO.

Red Bull burned through three really talented young drivers in Ricciardo, Albon, and Gasly in order to feed Horner’s Verstappen fetish. And now they are poaching most of Mercedes garage and technical department to try and take the next step. I have to say that I am generally not a fan of their team, management, or approach, whilst still being able to appreciate the talent of their driver line up. But this shouldn’t come as a surprise when their team principal is someone as narcissistic and self involved as Christian Horner.
Amen.

It's why I don't buy the bollocks about Max being the most talented driver right now.

Lewis is comfortably ahead of Max and if you put them both in the same car, Lewis would destroy him over the season just like he does to everyone else.
 
I don’t think there are any other drivers who would produce the goods in the consistent way Hamilton has. He makes it look easy. He never caves under pressure. The amount of times he’s brought the car home for a win or podium finish with stripped tires is insane. He just does it race after race after race, season after season. He’s a phenomenon. There are lots of drivers who could do it for a race, or even a season, but to do it year after year as he has, is pretty much unrivalled.

His brilliance gets regularly dismissed as having the best car, which really does his momentous achievements a disservice. It’s borderline disrespectful, and you wonder if a white driver would have to face the same level of scrutiny and doubt. In an age where media focus on driver behaviour is relentless, I have always appreciated Hamilton’s classy persona and stand for equality. It contrasts markedly to Verstappen, who despite being a great driver, is already on record calling fellow drivers “p*ssy”, “ret*rd” and “Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime*l”. But likely because of his ethnicity, he gets a pass.

As for the car, the Red Bull is set up for Verstappen. All their second drivers have to adjust to his set up, and adjust their driving style. Perez said as much recently. They are all in on Max as is obvious in all the behind the scenes footage, as well as comments directly from Horner. Mercedes just produce the best car they can, regardless of the driver, and It’s only because of Hamilton’s individual brilliance that he’s always ahead of Bottas, not the set up of the car. In fact we’ve seen many times Bottas grabbing poles because he can be lightening quick over a single lap and isn’t disadvantaged by having a favoured team mate in set up and design. He just doesn’t have the consistent brilliance of Hamilton or the nerves of steel to do it 60-70 times in a row under pressure and produce the same race results. When Hamilton is consistently quicker across a race, and has a chance of winning, and Bottas isn’t posting that pace, of course they ask him to move over. But they don’t give him a disadvantaged set up.

So I don’t think it’s bollocks at all. I think Hamilton is that good, that experienced, consistent and canny, that you could put him in the Red Bull and he’ll still win the title; or you put him in the McLaren and he competes for it. Even in the first two races of this season where the Red Bull was clearly a lot faster, Hamilton found a way to pull it out of his arse to be competitive and even win one of the races, when realistically given the pace of the two cars, he had no right to.

Verstappen is a great driver but he’s not Hamilton’s level yet, and there’s no guarantee he ever will be. This is even as Hamilton nears the end of his career and Verstappen is around his peak. This year with a car that’s just as good as the Merc, and sometimes better, and with a team focused purely on him, catering to him, and a car built to suit just him, he really should be winning the title or taking it to the wire if he’s as good as so many seem to say he is. Now with Red Bull poaching half of Mercedes technical team, maybe they’ll find a way to break Hamilton.

Red Bull constantly throw away a meaningful constructors challenge because their second driver is an after thought, as Horner basically fellates Max with gleeful abandon. His favouritism to his golden child does the team a disservice IMO.

Red Bull burned through three really talented young drivers in Ricciardo, Albon, and Gasly in order to feed Horner’s Verstappen fetish. And now they are poaching most of Mercedes garage and technical department to try and take the next step. I have to say that I am generally not a fan of their team, management, or approach, whilst still being able to appreciate the talent of their driver line up. But this shouldn’t come as a surprise when their team principal is someone as narcissistic and self involved as Christian Horner.
Look I get it, you're a fan of Lewis and he's quite obviously a brilliant driver, but it's also very obvious the Merc so far has been the fastest car. What you're saying about the RB being clearly faster isn't backed up by anything other than Mercedes propaganda. in some situations the Red Bull can be faster than the Merc, but it usually isn't and that's being proven practically every race and qualifying session. Whether Max is a better driver than Lewis right now is hard to say. I think they're probably on the same level right now except Lewis has been at that level for longer and yes it remains to be seen whether Max can keep this up for as long Lewis has. They're both extremely talented but there's no denying Lewis has been in the fastest car on the grid ever since he joined Mercedes.

I have no idea why you feel the need to bash Verstappen the way you're doing or even worse bring ethnicity into the conversation. Yes, Verstappen wears his heart in his sleeve. He says what he thinks. It's a very Dutch thing and I love it. Lewis on the other hand is probably the example teachers use when teaching media training. That's fine too and I get why someone would have a preference for Lewis but I don't. It's absolutely nothing to do with race.

When Verstappen burst onto the scene he produced DOTD winning performances in a Toro Rosso. When he switched to Red Bull it didn't take long for him to beat Ricciardo. Ricciardo then decided to leave because he didn't want to be number two. Albon regularly fecked up so you can't really blame RB for letting him go. Verstappen is RB #1 on merit, not because of favouritism from Horner and if some young driver came in and did to Max what Max did to Ricciardo I'm sure Horner would love it.
 
Look I get it, you're a fan of Lewis and he's quite obviously a brilliant driver, but it's also very obvious the Merc so far has been the fastest car. What you're saying about the RB being clearly faster isn't backed up by anything other than Mercedes propaganda. in some situations the Red Bull can be faster than the Merc, but it usually isn't and that's being proven practically every race and qualifying session. Whether Max is a better driver than Lewis right now is hard to say. I think they're probably on the same level right now except Lewis has been at that level for longer and yes it remains to be seen whether Max can keep this up for as long Lewis has. They're both extremely talented but there's no denying Lewis has been in the fastest car on the grid ever since he joined Mercedes.

I have no idea why you feel the need to bash Verstappen the way you're doing or even worse bring ethnicity into the conversation. Yes, Verstappen wears his heart in his sleeve. He says what he thinks. It's a very Dutch thing and I love it. Lewis on the other hand is probably the example teachers use when teaching media training. That's fine too and I get why someone would have a preference for Lewis but I don't. It's absolutely nothing to do with race.

When Verstappen burst onto the scene he produced DOTD winning performances in a Toro Rosso. When he switched to Red Bull it didn't take long for him to beat Ricciardo. Ricciardo then decided to leave because he didn't want to be number two. Albon regularly fecked up so you can't really blame RB for letting him go. Verstappen is RB #1 on merit, not because of favouritism from Horner and if some young driver came in and did to Max what Max did to Ricciardo I'm sure Horner would love it.

I bring ethnicity into it because 400 years of racial inequality tell us it’s not an even playing field. This is not even remotely controversial and we’ve seen for years the level of scrutiny has been different.

I haven’t bashed Max for the sake of bashing Max, I brought up things he’s done which are easily verifiable and I’ve posited the legitimate question about whether Lewis would’ve been able to get away with that sort of behaviour, and his ethnicity is a relevant contextual matter to answering that.

Lewis has had the best car on the grid but lots of drivers have in their careers, and not always won. To do it the way Lewis has, for as long as he has, gets readily dismissed by some as a simple “anyone would do it if they had his car”, which is just bollocks.

The Red Bull number two drivers have never been allowed to flourish. It’s hard when the team is built around Max and the car set up for him. Red Bull took young drivers and ditched them after a season when they made mistakes. If that is your attitude, then don’t pick up young drivers. Pick a seasoned pro.

Ricciardo left because he could see he’d always be in Max’s shadow at Red Bull and that would only worsen every season. He’s a top quality driver, and while he may not quite be in Max’s class, he’s still one of the top ten drivers on the grid. Yeah, I don’t blame him for wanting to go somewhere where it isn’t the Max Verstaplen show sponsored by Christian Horner.

As for giving Verstappen a pass for saying offensive, inappropriate things, even loving it “because he says what he feels”, is the same mentality as people loving Trump because he tells it like it is; instead of acknowledging that he says some stupid and offensive shit.
 
@simonhch lighten up mate. Nobody is disrespecting Hamilton here, there's really no need to defend him this passionately. You've probably seen some racial discrimination against him somewhere and are sensitive to that, fair enough, but I don't think anyone here has done that, so it's just weird bringing that up now.

And your last sentence is kind of desperate. No need for that.
 
Clever of Lewis to go up to Bottas on the podium and kill any ice between them. Still early in the season and Lewis will be better off without there being a big rift. it was really poor of Bottas though, I hope he can watch the highlights to understand what Lewis was doing, completely different strategy and Lewis was well ahead of him before a second stop and confident he'd finally get past Max after the one stop, I think he would too but doing a second stop with flying laps was a more surer way and not even possible with Bottas at the wheel. Lewis makes that happen.

I think people underestimate just how good Lewis is. I've even noticed more respect coming from Max. When he saw Lewis get past Bottas in the same hardware all equal early in the race in Portugal on the outside with a bold move (Max was right there to see it) it did change his tone a bit. You don't see Bottas all over the back of Lewis if in second but when Lewis is behind he's all over the gearbox until he passes or tyres give up, he's just fast and can reel people in with different driving lines, same with Rosberg who is much faster and still Lewis was getting past him often and hunting him down, you can go back to his first year upsetting Alonso, Lewis was faster day 1 first season no excuses about cars and setups, took a few years for Alonso to see it and now has the upmost respect. Ferrari and Vettel were beaten by Lewis when they had a fast car and Vettel was in form and many years on Lewis is still doing it at 36 while the rest fade away. Matching or getting close to a lap time is one thing but keeping a level very high for 20-50 laps is another, that comes naturally without looking at data. Longer more complex tracks also show the pace difference in one lap, some short tracks can even drivers up more in quali.
 
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