F1 2021 Season

Fluctuation0161 said:
He should get a podium with no trouble. It is half the challenge the Lewis had last weekend.

Ironic that the precedent he set on defending an overtake (off the track) last week could come back to haunt him.
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I would absolutely love it if one driver pushes Max and himself off the track to stay ahead. Nothing would delight me more
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
Alonso is going to be a danger at the start, he has nothing to lose and hates Hamilton
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Gasly and Alonso are probably both too experienced to screw their own races messing around with lewis. Better to let him go off and concentrate on your own race and a potential podium position
 
sun_tzu said:
I mean bottas could just run him off the circuit by going wide because good hard racing for the (constructors) title
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Bottas will lay out the red carpet for max, hes as much of a teammate to max as you can get from a rival driver. Will always move out of the way, leave loads of room for max. Hes just spiteful cause Mercedes are getting rid of him and pretends hes a "sporting" driver.
 
rpitroda said:
This is the thing. Until a few seasons ago I really didn’t like Lewis and would root his team mate. But he’s just so different now. The things he stands up for, the air of vulnerability, and his arrogance seems much more in a better place. Even despite all the carnage in Brazil, he had his say but ultimately didn’t moan, just got into it and did his bit on the track.

I really want to like Max. Because he is quick and straight talking and aggressive. He wants to win. But, right now he’s just such a dick. Didn’t and doesn’t praise others if they do a good lap or have a good race. Just acts like a thug On track.

But, part of it is how he is enabled by Horner. I really think under another leader Max wouldn’t be so dislikeable.
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Come with his age i think. Lewis seems like more composed now like how a veteran in this sport should be. Heck i want him behave like Raikkonen just for the luls.
 
Fluctuation0161 said:
Not really. One was single yellow, one was double yellow.

Also as I said in my previous post other drivers are starting to put pressure/comment on the pro Max bias from the FIA e.g. Vettel.
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George Russell too as head of the drivers association was surprisingly critical of Max and how the rules are applied to him. I just read it now and it's good that people will actually speak out about it.
 
Jippy said:
George Russell too as head of the drivers association was surprisingly critical of Max and how the rules are applied to him. I just read it now and it's good that people will actually speak out about it.
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Link?

Russell vs Max is going to be amazing in a couple years time assuming both cars remain competitive. Russell was faster than Max and Lando when they used to race against each other I believe, in karting at least.
 
rpitroda said:
Link?

Russell vs Max is going to be amazing in a couple years time assuming both cars remain competitive. Russell was faster than Max and Lando when they used to race against each other I believe, in karting at least.
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This is the part.

Russell - who is a director of the Grand Prix Drivers' Association, and will be Hamilton's team-mate at Mercedes next year - said: "Unfortunately, there was no outcome.

"I do appreciate you need to judge every single case [on its merits] but for me that was not even close to the line of what went on [in Brazil], it was well beyond the line. And if that had been the last lap of the race, in my opinion it would have been a slam-dunk penalty for Max."

Russell also said he questioned Masi's claim that all incidents are judged on their merits and with no consideration of the context or consequences.

"I think Max wasn't punished purely because Lewis won the race," he said, "but the consequences shouldn't be a factor in the punishment. You should judge the incident on a race-by-race basis. That's what they've always told us - it's not the consequences, it's the incident.

"We all want to race hard but that was hard and unfair and we want hard and fair racing."

Sainz said: "I agree with George. It looks like over the winter there will be some big conversations about how we go racing as a sport. If the car on the inside should leave space on the outside in any case or not.

"We need to rethink the whole approach because, the way it's been working, it's pretty clear that the drivers don't fully understand what is going to happen depending on what you do."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/59361848
 
Shame Max got the penalty, I was looking forward to him and Hamilton side by side into the first corner

I presume Bottas' penalty was less as he lifted more than Max, but not enough to meet the criteria

I hope Gasly wins :lol:

I want the championship to go down to the very last race to keep it exciting
 
Jippy said:
This is the part.

Russell - who is a director of the Grand Prix Drivers' Association, and will be Hamilton's team-mate at Mercedes next year - said: "Unfortunately, there was no outcome.

"I do appreciate you need to judge every single case [on its merits] but for me that was not even close to the line of what went on [in Brazil], it was well beyond the line. And if that had been the last lap of the race, in my opinion it would have been a slam-dunk penalty for Max."

Russell also said he questioned Masi's claim that all incidents are judged on their merits and with no consideration of the context or consequences.

"I think Max wasn't punished purely because Lewis won the race," he said, "but the consequences shouldn't be a factor in the punishment. You should judge the incident on a race-by-race basis. That's what they've always told us - it's not the consequences, it's the incident.

"We all want to race hard but that was hard and unfair and we want hard and fair racing."

Sainz said: "I agree with George. It looks like over the winter there will be some big conversations about how we go racing as a sport. If the car on the inside should leave space on the outside in any case or not.

"We need to rethink the whole approach because, the way it's been working, it's pretty clear that the drivers don't fully understand what is going to happen depending on what you do."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/59361848
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Seems pretty inconsistent with Max’s account.
 
United Hobbit said:
Shame Max got the penalty, I was looking forward to him and Hamilton side by side into the first corner

I presume Bottas' penalty was less as he lifted more than Max, but not enough to meet the criteria

I hope Gasly wins :lol:

I want the championship to go down to the very last race to keep it exciting
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Bottas drive through single yellows. Max doubles.
 
United Hobbit said:
Shame Max got the penalty, I was looking forward to him and Hamilton side by side into the first corner

I presume Bottas' penalty was less as he lifted more than Max, but not enough to meet the criteria

I hope Gasly wins :lol:

I want the championship to go down to the very last race to keep it exciting
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Single vs double flag
 
vangagal said:
Come with his age i think. Lewis seems like more composed now like how a veteran in this sport should be. Heck i want him behave like Raikkonen just for the luls.
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It's also a product of the environments Lewis has been in. McLaren and Mercedes both refused to entertain him being a diva, and so forced him to grow up. Max is in an environment where he gets nothing but smoke blown up his arse, as the ultimate golden boy. He'll never stamp that out while he's at Red Bull.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Difference of opinion (when asked if overtaking now clear), who'd have thunk it?

Max..

"Yesterday it was all about sharing their opinions and the FIA explaining their process of thought behind it. We came a long way. It was a very long briefing. I think at the end it was pretty clear."

Lewis..

"No. It's not clear. Every driver except for Max - most drivers - was asking for clarity but it wasn't very clear. It's still not clear what the limits of the track are."
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So who do you believe.
 
The Hilton said:
It's also a product of the environments Lewis has been in. McLaren and Mercedes both refused to entertain him being a diva, and so forced him to grow up. Max is in an environment where he gets nothing but smoke blown up his arse, as the ultimate golden boy. He'll never stamp that out while he's at Red Bull.
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That is a great post.
 
Guess time to see if Max can do an impression of Hamilton last week. Though I would love for every driver to pull the same stunts he did last week on him, but I'm assuming the rest are to professional or don't want to mess their own race up to fight him to much.
 
Dargonk said:
Guess time to see if Max can do an impression of Hamilton last week. Though I would love for every driver to pull the same stunts he did last week on him, but I'm assuming the rest are to professional or don't want to mess their own race up to fight him to much.
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I think he'll be p3 at worst after 1 lap.
 
Surely gunna be a dull one this. Lewis to lead from start to finish.
 
Carl said:
Surely gunna be a dull one this. Lewis to lead from start to finish.
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You would think so. But it's f1 anything can happen. A puncture or a botched pit stop turns the race on its head.
 
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