the first lap was decent , the SC killed it
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Sucks for my fantasy team. I subbed in Hamilton for Verstappen while keeping Bottas in my lineup. 
Rubbish sprint race btw, just bin it off altogether, i dont know what was Ross Brawn thinking making sprint race in the first place.
Not a fan of the sprint race, for me the SC killed it.
The sprint is complete bollocks, get rid.
It is rubbish because there is no natural overtaking and too short for strategy to come in to play.
The lack of overtaking doesn’t say much about tomorrow.
The lack of overtaking doesn’t say much about tomorrow.
I did tell you it would be trash. I think there was 2 overtakes that were genuine? what a waste of time.
why is anybody going to take a risk when it means you lose out come the actual race on sunday. it needs a huge rethink
That was super lame. That start by Lewis too was awful. This was the chance for him to not only take points in the sprint but also be in prime position for the race to take the lead in the championship but just poor.
Yeap, I bow to your greater knowledge.
I think there was 2 overtakes that were genuine? what a waste of time.
why is anybody going to take a risk when it means you lose out come the actual race on sunday. it needs a huge rethink
It was utter shit.
Lewis fecked it up, handed Max the easiest Pole he will ever get.
Norris was excellent holding off Lewis.
Agreed its utter rubbish. Reverse grid would make it interesting but big teams would never let that happen.
Yep lewis has pretty much screwed his chances of winning on sunday.
Maybe it's too early to ask, but ultimately, will Max get his first title or will Hamilton find a way to get the job done ?
Lewis toughest challenge since 2016 Rosberg but I think it's still possible he does it.
Lewis toughest challenge since 2016 Rosberg but I think it's still possible he does it.
So who gets Pole ? Max or Bottas asking mainly for fantasy league
asking mainly for fantasy leagueI think Max has been really phenomenal this year, and he’s got an underlying faster car. Hamilton can’t afford mistakes like today and hopefully he can make it up in the race, but I just think that the way things are falling it’ll be Max’s year.
So who gets Pole ? Max or Bottas
Max…
Also you people complaining about sprint race really need to get a grip. Its basically replaced FP3 . Theres still q1,q2,q3 quali, if thats what gets you off. Sprint racing over 1hr of FP3 is miles better
It really isnt
You think FP3 is a better watch?
Its Max's title to lose. RB are still bringing updates every race and Mercedes arent. I think RB are going to compromise next years car more than Mercedes are.
Monza and Sochi are two tracks that normally favour Mercedes we really need hamilton wins at both before we get to the next set of tracks that suit the RB. That way the title challenge can go down to the wire. I think Max will have the title wrapped up in 4-5 races time. Deserving so as RB has been the best car this season. Whether RB win the constructors depends on how much more Perez cocks up between now and end of season.
Any chance of a McLaren win???
Danny Ric takes out Max on first corner then why not....
Seriously, depends on what the RB is like in race pace tomorrow. Might just be too quick for the McLarens
I think you underestimate the value teams, and team managers, place on bring a professional team player.Just an absolute nonsense argument. He's been "professional" for 6 years, helped Lewis to 4 world titles and Merc to 4 constructors titles in a row, and they've still dumped him. Trying to be the fastest driver on the track every week when in the fastest car is what I would call being professional.
Even if we pretend that Alfa's team boss is a total weirdo who cares about his behaviour in the last 8 races in a Merc. Bottas is 32 and the contract is signed. So "looking unprofessional"
I dislike this whole sprint race concept.
I think there was 2 overtakes that were genuine? what a waste of time.
why is anybody going to take a risk when it means you lose out come the actual race on sunday. it needs a huge rethink
These sprints are awful. I think I missed the qualifying for the sprint? Did bottas actually drive faster than Hamilton and verstappen at some point to get the 1st place on the sprint grid?
Assuming that was an error at the start, Hamilton appears to be feeling the pressure.
Qually was better than the sprint. Max got a good tow from gasly on his first run in q3 and couldnt better it on his 2nd run. Bottas has a whole new engine/drivetrain so that have him the edge over lewis. Both max and lewis did their best times in q3 on first run and bottas on 2nd run. Lando made a mistake on his fastest lap that if he hadnt of made, would have put him ahead of max in the sprint grid order.
Looking forward to 2025 when Merc engines for the first time in 10+ years does not decide the championship, the hybrid era has been terrible for Formula 1.
Yeah pretty much. I'm just not ready to count a seven time champion out. Max's confidence is his biggest asset. Hamilton needs to put the pressure on him.
Although next year could be even tougher for Lewis if Russel is as good as I think he is.
Perez seems to be driving better than Bottas this year. You'd expect Bottas to be unnmotivated right now, knowing he will go from a Mercedes to a much worse car.
Also, Perez is already guaranteed the same seat next year. Although you get the feeling that next year he will need to really up his level if he is to stay longer.
Next year is the biggest set of changes in f1 for 40 years. Expect the unexpected
This sprint race is shit. Why don't they just do regular qualifying? Much more exciting.
it’s not that black and white.
Obviously we are happy with more track action, but they could have done something much better to make it more exciting.
Reverse qualy grid? reverse championship order? random positions out of a draw?
the fact that it’s linked to sunday’s race is also ridiculous. if you’re ricciardo in that position you probably send 1 around the outside of verstappen and suddenly it’s a close sprint race, instead he has to be cautious.
Gasly gets unlucky and now his sunday is completely ruined, how is that fair? might as well have not bothered with qualifying.
I have no issue with less practice sessions but the way they’ve tried to do it means the rich get richer.
Let’s see Mazepin start at the front with Latifi and Tsunoda and Schumacher. Give them a chance to grab a win and soak up the pressure, or try to fight off the charging hamilton or verstappen with 2 laps left etc.
I’m sure they’ll figure out eventually people aren’t happy, i’ve seen a lot more groaning this time than at silverstone where it’s fresh or new.
Do you mean his employer which is paying him over $10m a year?
You think him going rogue, defying team orders and potentially costing his team and teammate the driver's championship would have no impact on his reputation?
It might be funny, but few team managers value unreliable, unprofessional and untrustworthy staff.
Yes definitely. Dont forget ferrari have taken a massive gamble with the direction of next years engine. Basically a different design approach than Honda, Mercedes and Renault. If it comes off we could be looking at a sainz/leclerc title battle.So you're saying..... there's a chance?
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Yes I'm sure all other drivers would take career advice from Hobbers from the internet.
Agreed. He has bonuses etc writtn into his contract if the team win the constructors. So he will try to help Mercedes win that.
He isn't going to screw Hamilton as they get on very well as teammates and he's aware how hard lewis tried to keep him onboard. Besides screw Mercedes and piss off totto and you cant write off any future drive for a team with a Mercedes engine. Basically hes a professional and will behave as such.
FP3 doesn’t decide the grid for the full race.
That's irrelevant to my point. I was reacting to people saying it was shit to watch or its lame or boring or there's nit much overtaking.
If you find it that boring stick to quali on Friday and Google the grid changes after the sprint.
Sprint quali has replaced fp3. And if you think fp3 is more entertaining to watch over sprint race then I don't know what to say.
If you want to have a discussion over what's better to decide the final grid then that's a fair discussion but most comments I see about sprint racing is people complaining that it's boring. Maybe I've miss understood?
you said it’s basically replaced fp3 which isn’t really true though. One is extra practice for the teams to figure out settings for the race/quali on their own terms whereas a sprint race isn’t.
in regards to entertainment, neither are entertaining from what we have seen so far so I don’t think the sprint race is more entertaining than fp3 argument holds up well. It’s not needed at all and it isn’t solving any issues.
I said its replaced fp3 because it is true. Fp3 is no longer there during sprint race weekend as the sprint race is now there. Replaced doesn't mean its the same thing. Its something completely different. I'm not arguing that they are somehow similar in what they do.
If you don't find Sprint racing entertaining then that's fine. Your probably didn't find fp3 entertaining either so it's not like you're losing something. Its simply something different adds a different element to a race. Probably monza isn't the best track to do a sprint just because of the nature of the track and modern f1 cars. I think Brazil will be much more interesting race.
Personally I find it OK. I enjoy watching f1 cars race even if its for 2 laps. But asking to bin it because its not jam packed with massive wheel to wheel racing every corner on the track is a bit ott imo.