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F1 2017 Season
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Also have to consider that they're supposed to be aiming for a new title sponsor in time for next season, and with potato power there aren't going to be many blue chips willing to pay for it. And if they can't make the engine competitive this season, there's a further two years of this engine formula to go where results will be, at best, meh. Financial disaster was overstating it, but taking back the lowest amount of prize money and suffering the reputational damage along with that, with performances unlikely to get much better, is a terrible position to be in.
Who knows, maybe it's just gremlins in the engine and Honda will fix it in a few races time, but McLaren openly shopping elsewhere suggests problems may be far worse than that.
Yep it's alll just a power play to show Honda unless they sort themselves out they have the option of leaving.
Honda are funding them 100 million a year to have their engines, that can't be replaced lightly.
Where's this from? I've seen figures everywhere from 25m a year upwards without seeing anything reasonably legit on it.
That would make more sense, the BBC figures seems to include the money saved from not paying for customer engines. The Alonso salary is fairly moot as he looks like he'll be going at the end of the season barring a substantial turnaround.
Didn not know Honda's financial commitment was so large.
Season starts on Saturday, cant wait.
Lewis is still my fav to win, but I doubt the Merc's will get all their own way.
There is still time to get your team in the Fantasy League for the first race.
http://www.fantasy-f1-league.com/
League name is RedCafe Fantasy F1 League
Password is redcafe
Lewis is still my fav to win, but I doubt the Merc's will get all their own way.
There is still time to get your team in the Fantasy League for the first race.
http://www.fantasy-f1-league.com/
League name is RedCafe Fantasy F1 League
Password is redcafe
Vettel saying Merc are favorites and Hamilton saying Ferrari are favorites. 
What's the collective wisdom of the Caf predicting? For me everything from testing points to Ferrari being a couple of tenths quicker than Mercedes with Red Bull (who I thought would nail it for this year) being a huge unknown. I feel like the latter two will outdevelop Ferrari over the course of the season though. Definitely the most intriguing start to the season I can remember for a while anyway, can't wait for FP1.
I have a sneaky feeling the mercs were sandbagging during testing and will be a couple of tenths up in Melbourne. Ferrari will be closer than last year, but I agree that RB & Merc will out develop them.
Got a feeling RB will be a tenth or 2 behind Ferrari just now but could score higher points more regularly due to their driver line-up.
I agree with @Wicked_Beaver.
Merc>Ferrari>>>RB
Merc>Ferrari>>>RB
I'm trying not to get too excited for Sunday morning. I've got a horrible feeling these cars are going to make overtaking very difficult due to not being able to follow closely the car in front
So instead of having a pay driver, McLaren kind of have a pay engine.
McLaren are the new Williams IMO. Honda will probably leave in the not-too-distant future and McLaren will get stuck in midfield mediocrity.
That's my worst fear about this season.
Well that and Hamilton cruising to the title
I think this will happen but at least the top 3 manufacturers are closer.
I think you could be right on the money.
Lewis is still the fav for me, I just don't see Bottas getting in the points enough to stop Kimi and Vettle.
If Ferrari have a reliable car, I can see them giving Merc a very good race for the constructors title
Agreed, Lewis has to be favourite.
I'm not sure Ferrari reliability is a concern as much as their strategists getting it right. Cost them around 40/50 points last year imo which would have seen them right up their with Red Bull.
Excited to see the cars in action & pleased that they should be @ full throttle for more of the laps for more consecutive laps. Just concerned that the improved downforce & mechanical grip will make overtaking harder. I think they should have just improved one (aero probably) and left the mechanical grip a little more unpredictable.
I think it will favour the Tilke-drones with slow, constant radius corners leading into big straights and hairpins. Faster flowing circuits like Spa and Monza will suffer.
I'm more interested in this season than I have been for a few years but they still need to sort the engines/fuel out.
FP1 times ** denotes as plus 1
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12...ne-lewis-hamilton-fastest-in-mercedes-one-two
Can't read too much into it yet as it is only FP1 and I expect Ferrari to do better. I understand Hamilton was on Ultras too and Ferrari did limited running from what I read eventually doing a time on supersofts.
Circuit information Lap data
Lap length 5.303km (3.295 miles)
Race laps 58
Race distance 307.574km (191.118 miles)
Pole position Left-hand side of the track
Lap record* 1’24.125 (226.934 kph) by Michael Schumacher, 2004
Fastest lap 1’23.529 (228.553 kph) by Sebastian Vettel, 2011
Maximum speed 312kph (193.868 mph)
DRS zone/s (race) First and second straight
Distance from grid to turn one 380m
*Fastest lap set during a Grand Prix
Lewis has just done a 1:23.620 in FP2.
Last year Lewis did a 1:23.837 in Q3
Lewis Hamilton Mercedes Q1-1:25.351 Q2-1:24.605 Q3-1:23.837 Laps-14
Australian GP Practice One Timesheet
1. Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 1:24.220
2. Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes, +0.583
3. Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull, +0.666
4. Max Verstappen, Red Bull, +1.026
5. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, +1.152
6. Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari, +1.244
7. Felipe Massa, Williams, +1.922
8. Romain Grosjean, Haas, +1.948
9. Nico Hulkenberg, Renault, +1.963
10. Sergio Perez, Force India, +2.056
11. Carlos Sainz, Toro Rosso, +2.230
12. Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso, +2.294
13. Lance Stroll, Williams, +2.514
14. Fernando Alonso, McLaren, +2.896
15. Marcus Ericsson, Sauber, +3.128
16. Esteban Ocon, Force India, +3.436
17. Kevin Magnussen, Haas, +3.447
18. Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber, +4.319
19. Jolyon Palmer, Renault, +4.365
20. Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren, +4.475
1. Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 1:24.220
2. Valtteri Bottas, Mercedes, +0.583
3. Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull, +0.666
4. Max Verstappen, Red Bull, +1.026
5. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, +1.152
6. Sebastian Vettel, Ferrari, +1.244
7. Felipe Massa, Williams, +1.922
8. Romain Grosjean, Haas, +1.948
9. Nico Hulkenberg, Renault, +1.963
10. Sergio Perez, Force India, +2.056
11. Carlos Sainz, Toro Rosso, +2.230
12. Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso, +2.294
13. Lance Stroll, Williams, +2.514
14. Fernando Alonso, McLaren, +2.896
15. Marcus Ericsson, Sauber, +3.128
16. Esteban Ocon, Force India, +3.436
17. Kevin Magnussen, Haas, +3.447
18. Pascal Wehrlein, Sauber, +4.319
19. Jolyon Palmer, Renault, +4.365
20. Stoffel Vandoorne, McLaren, +4.475
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12...ne-lewis-hamilton-fastest-in-mercedes-one-two
Can't read too much into it yet as it is only FP1 and I expect Ferrari to do better. I understand Hamilton was on Ultras too and Ferrari did limited running from what I read eventually doing a time on supersofts.
Circuit information Lap data
Lap length 5.303km (3.295 miles)
Race laps 58
Race distance 307.574km (191.118 miles)
Pole position Left-hand side of the track
Lap record* 1’24.125 (226.934 kph) by Michael Schumacher, 2004
Fastest lap 1’23.529 (228.553 kph) by Sebastian Vettel, 2011
Maximum speed 312kph (193.868 mph)
DRS zone/s (race) First and second straight
Distance from grid to turn one 380m
*Fastest lap set during a Grand Prix
Lewis has just done a 1:23.620 in FP2.
Last year Lewis did a 1:23.837 in Q3
Lewis Hamilton Mercedes Q1-1:25.351 Q2-1:24.605 Q3-1:23.837 Laps-14
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FP2 completed.
end of FP2 and it is Merc 1 and 3 , Ferrari 2 and 4.
Lewis fastest 0.54 faster than Vettle.
Only FP but that Merc is looking pretty good.
Lewis fastest 0.54 faster than Vettle.
Only FP but that Merc is looking pretty good.
Ferrari looks very fast however in the long runs Mercs looks much better and friendlier to the tyres. Merc up in my eyes. Hamilton up on Bottas, up to 0.5s it seems. Bottas will need to up his game if he intends to challenge Lewis.
I think the lap record will go tomorrow in qualifying too.
I think the lap record will go tomorrow in qualifying too.
I don't think Bottas is Lewis's problem, yeah he will get a good few points but he wont be challenging him for the title.
I don't know how to get these very first results. I think we need to see what happens tomorrow. Just hope Seb can get the 2nd spot on the grid. It would be a big improvement on the last seasons.
If you have got the right car which Bottas has then you have got a good chance of winning the tittle, you have just got to look at what Nico did last year.
How do you guys rate Kimi's chances if the Ferrari comes good? Does he still have it in him to mount a challenge?
hi pauldy
it says i am in the league already, is it the same one from last season or a new one
You have a good point about Bottas.
Kimi yes he has a chance, Kimi's main problem is Kimi I think.
Kimi yes he has a chance, Kimi's main problem is Kimi I think.
same has last season, saves messing each season setting a new one up.
If you have a team already in just pick your drivers.
Done. Am thinking engine is better to invest money
Pick Mercedes and you get a shot with more drivers than just spunking it on Hamilton
Yes very true , I was meaning more his bad temper, sometimes it gets the better of him.Kimi's main problem is Vettel
Can't wait for Quali.
If he woke up he is still a great driver. His problems are just down to focus.
Can you see what my user name is on it from last season
Just shows this,
christy87 Langers on a mission
You team is still there from last season ,you just have to pick your drivers.
There is still 10 hours left to pick you team for the first race.
If you had a team in last season , it will still be there.
If you had a team in last season , it will still be there.
Thanks