I guess they were in disbelief as much as anything.
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Pretty sure he had one hand on the wheel.
His car clearly swerved into Hamilton, very much doubt it was an accident.
Haha, opinions on that will be tribal. If you're team LH, you'll think Seb should have been black flagged, likewise if you're Forza Ferrari you'll think Lewis was being a bellend brake testing him.Seb trying to defend himselfDick!
It didn't affect the outcome of the race so meh.
This
Correct , was the headrest that did that
That whack on the side probably didn't do Hamilton's headrest much good.
Clutching at straws
Think it was from the red flag.
Didn't get fixed properly.
The hit was not to blame for that, it was from the red flag , was not secured correct or a fixing failed.
Seb hinted that it was deliberate. What do the apologists make of that?
In short, Hamilton knew what he was doing and is a dickhead, Vettel should have known better and not overreacted in such a manner.
But then we wouldn't be as entertained.
He didn't break he just didn't speed up it's up to Seb to make sure there is a gap between him and the car in front. after that Seb deliberately turned into him.
Whilst Seb is correct in mentioning Lewis' previous erratic behaviour (basically each restart is different so Seb can't figure out where to speed up) under SC restarts, he should perhaps remember he also has history getting too close under SC conditions, in fact he got too close to the Safety Car once (Hungary IIRC) and was penalised for it. Also Japan 2007.
It's hard to police this other than making the lead car the safety car under such conditions, notice Perez didn't get sucked into this either, it was just Seb being super aggressive trying to not get beaten under the SC for the 3rd time in a row. Also I don't think he deliberately rammed Hamilton, one hand off the wheel etc. Just draw a line under it and carry on. Although I do think Seb's penalty was influenced by the prospect of him inheriting the win when Hamilton pitted. Seb either had to get no penalty or a severe one if they felt he'd driven into Hamilton deliberately.
It's hard to police this other than making the lead car the safety car under such conditions, notice Perez didn't get sucked into this either, it was just Seb being super aggressive trying to not get beaten under the SC for the 3rd time in a row. Also I don't think he deliberately rammed Hamilton, one hand off the wheel etc. Just draw a line under it and carry on. Although I do think Seb's penalty was influenced by the prospect of him inheriting the win when Hamilton pitted. Seb either had to get no penalty or a severe one if they felt he'd driven into Hamilton deliberately.
Apparently two of those points expire by Silverstone.
He was being a bell end. Seb was then a cnut.
That's what I said though.
Is there any word on Bottas getting a penalty? It flashed up in the race his and Kimi's incident was 'noted', whatever the hell that means.
Lewis Hamilton, once a cock always a cock. He knew what he was doing, he broke whether Lewis fanboys (buzz word of the weekend) agree or not. Stupid from Seb to do what he did afterwards. You can't react like that and deserves his punishment.
Can't see him being penalised. He hit the curb and bounced.
Just bad luck.
All of our eyes lied to us then because watching that it sure as hell looked like Lewis slowed right down coming out of the corner.
Except for the eyes of former racing-driver David Coulthard. You're not really going to argue against the telemetry are you?
It was pretty obvious to me that he didn't hit the brakes and he just maintained the speed he was going at.
Vettel's behaviour post-incident was probably worse. I imagine the car drifted slightly with him having one hand on the wheel, so the 10 second stop-go is in line with that. However the reluctance to accept any penalty and insist someone brake checked him when the data shows he did not is very poor form. For a F1 car to brake check at such a slow speed, Hamilton would have near enough stopped dead.
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The again he came out with some tripe about being men as something to legitimise his reaction, so I think Seb ultimately is very lucky he did not get a bigger penalty.
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I thought that at first too but when you see it from Bottas' car, it looks a bit dodgy. Kimi gave him ample room to go around the kerb, he didn't and went in way too tight and therefore ruined Raikkonen's whole afternoon. Can see why he will escape though.
of course the haters are, telemetry does not lie, does it.
That doesnt fit the narrative!
What say you now Vettel fans?
Vettel just decided to accelerate. His mistake since it is up to the car behind to not rearend someone. The sideswipe looked pretty deliberate to me. I wonder if there is an on board view?
Hamilton is in first place, in probably a quicker car, looking at an comfortable win . What possible motive would he brake test and have Vettel run into his diffuser, risking a penalty and damage to his car?
Um maybe to get the best possible restart?!
Build a gap to the safety car, keep Vettel guessing and then put his foot down?
I literally cannot believe anyone is seriously trying to defend Vettel here.
Haha, I wouldn't hold your breath
When it happened I said it was madness what Vettel did and I was criticised for it. Vettel lost it plain and simple anyone who did what he did deserved a severe punishment.
Not defending Vettel's actions but I wonder if Hamilton thinks his idol is a 'disgrace' and should be stripped of the 1990 championship? They're all like this - Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso and it's not surprise they're by far the best on the grid.