Cant wait to see more of Jones in midfield
Ezequiel Garay
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I might pretend to be just to be contrary.
It's a signing and that should make us happy. Will make room for Jones to be a full time midfielder now, so he's our new midfield signing and Garay will take his place in defence.
It would make slightly more sense if he was a youngish talent. Then possibly the idea would be that when Rio retires, Evans steps into his shoes and we're in an equally strong position in terms of depth. But he's what, 27/28, and decent without being anything special.
He's a handsome bastard. That's got to count for something.
Not that bad - he turns 27 in october
Just thought of something - this could be our 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice back 4
Baines, Ferdinand, Garay, Rafael
Evra, Vidic, Evans, Smalling
Buttner, Thorpe, M.Keane, Fabio
Ok...we have decent depth back there
Lets add a couple of years to his age and pretend he's old!
Christ, I think I'll have to be in favor of this signing given the wailing about it.
Maybe we need to sell more shirts in ARgentina 
They will always remain inexperienced if we don't play them. Now if we were signing a truly good CB then it would make sense but Garay is not all that great
Isn't a youngish talent exactly what you don't need at CB?
I think Garay is a very tidy defender. Granted it's not a priority position for you, but nevertheless I think he's good enough to play a lot at United.
Someone who isnt better than Evans/Smalling is exactly what we dont need
He s in an age group between Jones/Smalling (20's) and Rio/Vidic (30+). He ll fill up till Jones and Smalling are experienced enough to become regulars. They re not ready yet but playing both of them all the time is no solution as younger players tend to lack consistency, especially at United's level
Why arent they ready yet? Why is he?
He's probably better than them. I don't think you can make that assumption until you see him play a few games for you lot.
Based on? They're probably as good as him.
Smalling was excellent on 2010-2011 and Evans is in that group age between the present (Rio & Vida) and the future (Smalling & Jones).
I just dont get this signing at all. I'd actually be genuinely disappointed if this went through, which would be a first for a signing.
Yeah, the opposition will get lost in his handsome ruggedness and fluff their chances in front of goal.
feck sake, I knew when I saw this thread at the top of the page there was going to be bad news.
Watched him in some match for Benfica in the Europa league, he went off injured and they were all over the place at the back afterwards so he probably does a lot of organizing of those around him. When Vidic was out last season we did seem to lack that so hopefully this guy is being brought in with that in mind.
We just don't need to spend £17m+ on a centre back when we recently spent a lot of money on Smalling and Jones.
If Vidic is fit he has to play, same as Rio. Ok, people are saying he's a good back up cause Vidic + Rio aren't getting any younger...but that's why we bought Smalling and Jones who both have the potential to become very, very good.
Of all our rumoured transfer dealings this year, one was a full back who was signed, the other two are also defenders, none of whom we need.
If Vidic is fit he has to play, same as Rio. Ok, people are saying he's a good back up cause Vidic + Rio aren't getting any younger...but that's why we bought Smalling and Jones who both have the potential to become very, very good.
Of all our rumoured transfer dealings this year, one was a full back who was signed, the other two are also defenders, none of whom we need.
why would we want him? completely useless even if we are selling half of our present defenders. We are quite stocked up with Keane to come into the side. Buying him would be even worse than the Young signing
I'm still waiting for actual 'news'. We've been signing this guy for six months. Pardon me for waiting before anything is actually official.
The 'what' was meant to make it clear that I wasn't sure. Apologies for being off by a year.
I've seen plenty of him, and he's not better than Evans. Jones, in my opinion, is only a season of regular games at CB away from being just as good as Garay. Better than Smalling at the moment but Smalling is young and rarely gets to play; he has huge potential, whereas Garay is basically as good now as he's going to get.
We simply don't need him. We've got numbers, and despite what people keep saying, we've got a perfect age range - Keane 20, Jones 21, Smalling 23, Evans 25, Vidic 31, Ferdinand 34. I'd be perfectly comfortable with us playing Jones and Evans right now. In fact, Ferdinand has another year, and Vidic looks to have another 3 or so. So by the time Evans is looking for a partner, Smalling will be 26/27, and Jones 24/25.
I don't quite agree with that. If we are to bring in another CB, someone early in their peak years makes the most sense. We've got the talents and the experienced geriatrics but only Evans somewhere in between.
Hopefully this goes the same way as the Gaitan signing.
Vidic another 3 years? He's coudn't play 2 games in a row last season!
I'd be genuinely saddened if this signing goes through. We've spent 30m on two of the best young talented central defenders and not given them enough minutes in their natural position for various reasons, and as a result their development has stalled. Now we want to add another name into the mix which will stall their development further? If we are worried about their fitness record, then maybe we should just get rid as it makes absolutely zero sense to have six quality center-backs on the books, absolutely none, specially when the midfield and the wings are crying out for reinforcements.
See my post above. We have a good age range: Keane 20, Jones 21, Smalling 23, Evans 25, Vidic 31, Ferdinand 34.
Besides, Jones makes a mockery of the age thing. For two seasons now, every game he's played at CB has been superb. This season in particular, he's been massive there, despite being constantly fecked about and played in midfield. I'd be pretty comfortable if he and Evans had to be our first-choice partnership right now.
CB is the position where we don't need reinforcements in the near future IMHO. I want midfielders
I still think this is utter bollocks tbh.
As part of his recovery from an injury.
You don't half like to be contrary for the sake of it, do you? Pretty much everyone else in the thread thinks this wouldn't make much sense, so...
You have odd taste.
Same dentist as Suarez?
Ha, you scoured the internet for a picture to make him look bad and that's the worst you could do! He's got to be a handsome bastard so.
You don't think United might know more about Vidics capacity than you do? If they sign this guy its obviously because they have no faith in Vidic or Rio being able to play week in, week out.
Yeah, I'm not saying we need another CB. I'm saying if we are to bring one in, a 26 year old makes more sense than a young prospect.
I googled "Garay" and it was about the 5th pic! In all of them he looks like he could eat an apple though a tennis racquet.
That's fair enough. I don't quite agree, purely because of how excellent and mature Jones looks there regardless of his age. But unlike the rantings of a certain Charley 'Ezequiel Garay's mum' Surf, it's a reasonable opinion.
It does suggest there may be more than a little doubt at Vidic's ability to play on at the standard we've grown accustomed.
Maybe this was information Fergie passed on or his coaching staff. If you have Vidic with no problem paying large amounts for a new CD would seem odd.