Do they even have a celebrity face for the takeover?
Couldn't they have got the bloke for Maroon 5 or Jimmy Fallon or something
Couldn't they have got the bloke for Maroon 5 or Jimmy Fallon or something
Everton 23/24 | R.I.P Bill Kenwright
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Everton are fecked. I still believe they have a strong chance of relegation - their squad/team looks so poor. It must be a hard watch for their supporters.
I think it's alright in terms of staying up this year but needs to be improved on heavily if we want to be mid-table and safe from relegation battles.
Like being a bottom half Manchester United
Admittedly I didn't keep up with any late deals you may have made in the window, but the teams you put out so far make my eyes bleed
4 CMs including Garner on the right, Doucoure as a 10 behind the strikers, Young at LB...that is a team that should be in the relegation mix.
Much worse ran club.
They were once part of the big 5 in England 30 years ago, and are now regularly in the bottom places and on the brink of the Championship. Yet we’ve got it so awful finishing 3rd and only winning the League Cup, because apparently people thought we’d go on winning the league every single season indefinitely.
Just some context to think about in the PL, before you even get into clubs in the lower leagues being ran into near non-existence.
Admittedly I didn't keep up with any late deals you may have made in the window, but the teams you put out so far make my eyes bleed
4 CMs including Garner on the right, Doucoure as a 10 behind the strikers, Young at LB...that is a team that should be in the relegation mix.
That's because McNeil/Harrison/Iwobi were injured. Iwobi is now gone but McNeil should be back this weekend and Harrison is almost back too.
Young was fantastic last season for an Aston Villa side that almost made a top 4 challenge.
Doucoure can be improved on but he's capable for a mid table side and I would rather we rotate between him and Garner depending on the game and what we need.
Our chance creation/xG thus far is in the top half of the table and mixing with the top clubs and those such as Brentford/Brighton.
Beto has also come in and looked very good. With a few tweaks and players coming back we really should have a side capable of staying up.
I've always felt United are too big to fail which is a blessing and a curse. The curse being the Glazers can milk us for a whole lot more.
The doubt is if there’s enough goals in that squad and how they fare when injuries kick in
Yep. You almost need to go the where Liverpool were under Kenny and Arsenal a couple of years ago, genuine mid table mediocrity to build a top quality team from. Not that these teams have been pissing league titles but they’ve both genuinely challenged City having been midtable.
United always get short term solutions or players good enough to finish top 4 but not challenge for titles. Really, standards of recruitment should be completely changed even if it means a couple of seasons out the top 4, slowly finding the right player who is at the right level. At the moment it’s just boom bust of the same top 4 dogfight.
We're just too big a club to get down to Everton's level. We'll still finish top 4/6 and win a League Cup here and there. In terms of how badly they're run, we are just as bad. Poor managers, overpaid transfers, fans unhappiness, horrible owners, off the field scandals, etc
Bet Everton thought similar 30 years ago.
Yeah, fair enough, that's true
I'll admit that for a couple of seconds, I thought that 777 different people had bought together a football club, as surreal as it sounds.
Then I got my shit together.
Then I got my shit together.
Difference is the global brand of United thanks to their height during the PL era. I doubt we would have fallen so low if our height was in the PL era.
Maybe not, there's just so much money about now. Still think it's it's cautionary tale on how easy it is to slip into mediocrity assuming a big name will save you (sorry)
From David Ornstein,
EXCL: Everton receive sizeable loan from prospective owners 777. Payment worth tens of millions for working capital + stadium build. US firm to provide #EFC multi-club model expertise & join board in observer role during approvals process
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This sounds very much like a club on the verge of going in to administration/bust.
EXCL: Everton receive sizeable loan from prospective owners 777. Payment worth tens of millions for working capital + stadium build. US firm to provide #EFC multi-club model expertise & join board in observer role during approvals process
@TheAthleticFC
This sounds very much like a club on the verge of going in to administration/bust.
Someone doesn’t spend £500m on a club that’s about to go bust…
That's probably just to keep them afloat, hence working capital.
Football clubs ex Utd pretty much all burn money and I won't be surprised if a few go under during this downturn.
They haven't spent £500 million on the club?
They have loaned them some money because they are clearly skint!
Yep.
Wouldn't be surprised if we are hit with point deductions or go under this year.
I assume the new owners ploughing in this cash won't actually help you out with regards to FFP?
It's just to essentially keep you afloat and keep progressing with the stadium?
From my limited understand yeah. The FFP stuff is tied into money the club generates through sales and income etc, not money the owner pumps in which is why you see dodgy sponsorship deals.
Loans just to stay afloat is very very worrying.
Sorry to say this but it feels like this has been a long time coming. Years of financial mismanagement are coming home to roost.
Yeah, the 'mistake' that you made is that you should have copied Man City and made up a number of different fake crypto companies that are mysteriously sponsoring you.
It's entirely the fault of a shite owner and shite board and also why it made me very annoyed at people who said we should be grateful to Moshiri for the money he's put in. He consistently made the same mistakes, tried to enforce himself into positions he shouldn't have been because he has no bloody idea how to be a football club owner.
Mmmm, this sounds very familiar! Apart from the owner putting money in of course!
Do you feel more positive about the new owners/Investors since this news of financial backing?
No. Club needs a full reset.
Again, kind of know that feeling!
Hopefully something positive comes out of it for your club, never like to see football clubs suffer due to poor ownership.
If/when Everton go in to administration you will get a 9 point deduction.
As weird as it sounds you still might stay up this season even with that deduction because the newly promoted teams are so poor.
As weird as it sounds you still might stay up this season even with that deduction because the newly promoted teams are so poor.
We'd likely need 45-50 points which I can't see with this squad. I was thinking 40-45 would be achievable but even that's looking fairly optimistic.
I thought they’d go down and that isn’t taking into account any possible penalties
I don't think you will need that many.
I can't see any of the promoted teams getting more than 27/28 points
I think Luton will struggle to get 30 but the 18th spot could be 35-40 points.
Luton, probably not, but Burnley and Sheffield United are better then people think.
777 partners just vulturing on clubs.First time their supporters have seen them win two away games on the bounce since August 2016.
I would think 35 points will see you safe this season. The clubs coming up from the championship are lacking in quality this season.
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