Did you actually read the articles?
It's not PR - it's malicious misinformation on an industrial scale.
This is what people are saying to you. The country itself has a very long and detailed history of this kind of manipulation.
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It's not PR - it's malicious misinformation on an industrial scale.
This is what people are saying to you. The country itself has a very long and detailed history of this kind of manipulation.
Whatever.
Nothing there about something silly like the Eurovision. People really need to chill a little about a song contest.
You asked if Ireland was a pure Catholic country. Look up the history of Catholics and Protestants in Ireland and you'll see why that generated laughter.
Queer is a label that has morphed over the last 20-25 years. In the 90s, everyone I knew that used "queer", used it as sort of a catch-all label for both (and just) gay and lesbian. The word has evolved though into something even more general because people use it now not just in relation to sexuality but gender. This is probably a good current definition for queer now:
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/teens/sexual-orientation/what-does-queer-mean
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Whatever is your response to evidence. Ok.
15-20 years ago i read a stat how Ireland is the most Catholic country in Europe with over 90% of Catholics. And that info stayed in my head.
My bad, should know better about how things can change in one, two ....20 years
.I liked France's entry the first time I heard. I LOVED it in the final. It's such a beautiful song and performed exceptionally well.
Estonia's song is an absolute fecking banger. It didn't do as well as I had hoped, which is a shame. It's such a fun song.
This is a Eurovision thread.
There's no evidence there about the Eurovision.
Therefore, that is my response.
Yeah, France maybe did bad job in promoting their song before Eurovision because song and performance were excellent. That was potential winner with better PR.
We've shared evidence. One example in this thread was that there was a massive, massive campaign in 15 countries to run non stop YouTube ads telling people to vote for their song.
Then we have the weight of historical evidence of how Israel leverage internet operations to their cause, including multiple examples right now in relation to Gaza.
You're being very naive. And if you still disagree, I'd say give it a few weeks and we'll have plenty more evidence.
Nice little article here to back up what some folks have proposed for why Israel got 10pts from Ireland. One thing they miss is the boycott angle.
https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2024/0513/1448844-eurovision-voting-ireland-israel-politics-palestine/
https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2024/0513/1448844-eurovision-voting-ireland-israel-politics-palestine/
I didn't watch it liv but have followed the aftermath in amazement, comments like "Gayfest" seemed appropriate from the UK and some other entries, I was then told to watch the Finland entry, some quite good camera work, use of smoke and other things used to hide one performer with his c*ck hanging out.
I was under the impression that as it started at 8pm, it was family entertainment, not a soft porn thing.
I was under the impression that as it started at 8pm, it was family entertainment, not a soft porn thing.
He wasn't naked mate. All of that was to make it appear as if he was naked as a joke. No one had their cock out ffs.
I had my cock out, tbf.
TBH I didn't watch it all.
I've never been a fan of the contest, but had to suffer it with various females (Mum, Girlfriends, Wife) who seemed to like it for some reason.
I'm not doubting the facts, just the connection between the two. Israel does use the internet for its purposes, and a there was a campaign to get people to vote for the Israeli song (just like there have been for different countries and songs for years).
I'm simply saying that the campaign might have been driven by Israelis in Israel or the world, or jewish people. I doubt Israel itself bothered with that.
Females? Are we talking dogs here, or women?
Grandad is that you?
Lots of non females on here who would love to watch it with you. Maybe the Cafe can organize a watch party for the next one.
How many have you got?
Aaaaah, that. Sorry, we do
I park my Donkey at the airport when I'm flying out of Dublin. Takes me 4 days to get the 49 miles to the airport on the little dirt roads we have. Only got electricity 9 years ago and these new DVD players are amazing things.
I boycotted Eurovision this year
Then again I've been boycotting the event since the 70's
Then again I've been boycotting the event since the 70's
Mate, it says that the Israeli state ran that massive YouTube campaign on the campaign info.
And there is absolutely no comparison of the vastness of this campaign to anything that has preceded it over the years. As I keep saying, this was industrial scale.
Didnt watch this thing for ages. Watched it this year cause our candidate Babny lasagna was a hit. He was a favourite according to polls and his both performances were very strong, it was as if he had a concert. It was disappointing Switzerland won but unfortunately Eurovision is not about songs and performers anymore but other things. Cause Italian, French and Croatian songs were all better then a Suisse one. It's so silly EBU is all about no politics in Eurovision while certain agendas and policies are pushed every year there. I heard they banned European flag there this year.
Anyway although he didnt won Marko aka Baby Lasagna did a great thing nevertheless, wrote his own song, was helped by his fiance and his friends with the whole thing, didnt need a group of 50 people to make a song and the song and apparel he uses (tabletić) is all over the country. Fantastic things are happening for him.
Anyway although he didnt won Marko aka Baby Lasagna did a great thing nevertheless, wrote his own song, was helped by his fiance and his friends with the whole thing, didnt need a group of 50 people to make a song and the song and apparel he uses (tabletić) is all over the country. Fantastic things are happening for him.
Estonia was great, they missed a massive opportunity with the staging though, it wasn’t memorable at all. Needed some midgets or fireworks.
Someone posting something in Twitter is hardly evidence.
Ok, you're wumming now.
Look at the tweet. See the screenshot from YouTube. See that YouTube has to make it visible who paid for the ad campaign. See that the campaign is paid for by the Israel government.
Or don't believe the tweet and check it for yourself on YouTube.
Here is huge public wrath about this. People were not this angry even after we lost World cup against France.
Honestly i don't know what to think. Was Swiss song really better? Objectively..?
It was objectively better (than Rim Tim Tagi Dim) in some of the things that the jury looks at, such as lyrics. But Croatia got a surprising amount of jury points anyway, that's a good sign. Norway got 40 jury points in 2019 with Spirit in the Sky, and then 291 televote points.
I think Baby Lasagna should have won, but Nemo has received a disgusting amount of abuse for winning with what is honestly a pretty good song.
Finland not winning last year was a bigger scandal than Croatia not winning here.
Wow, didn't know that.
Isn't it a same thing? Catchy high ritam song vs better vocal and lyrics?
Actually we almost sent them again this year, and in hindsight maybe we should have. Might have just taken some points from Baby Lasagna though.
"Viking" part is bloody awesome
Sami part, actually! But it's part of the Norwegian cultural heritage.
I said Viking because it reminded me on this;
I had this on repeat 1000 times
We like ships and singing, what can I say? Here are navy cadets returning home to Norway after a 3 month trip on a sailing ship. It's just a normal sea shanty though. We also like cultural appropriation.