Music Eurovision 2024

Not worth getting worked up by it. Imagine what the score would have been had there been a Palestinian participant. At least a proper contestant won.
 
Apparently so, showed it on RTE
I think each individual broadcaster shows theirs (they have to I think?)

Here's the Norwegian one:

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NW London and Golders Green were on speed dial tonight

Erm.... On a Saturday? I doubt the Hassidic community are breaking the Sabbath for that.

No, this was done by the white, older conservative voters who view Israel as a white, European state standing up to the savage threat of Islam.
 
UK televote gave 12 points to Israel. feck this horrible little island.
 
I think each individual broadcaster shows theirs (they have to I think?)

Here's the Norwegian one:

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That's actually hilarious, the Israel lobby is weaker in Norway than we feared. I was about to comment on Sweden getting 10 points, but then I remembered they were literally Norwegians.
 
I think each individual broadcaster shows theirs (they have to I think?)

Here's the Norwegian one:

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Yeah indeed. Same table, different results of course (I only remember Israel with 10 - not sure of any others)
 
You're wrong
Actually the opposite.

Ah yes, the whims of collective punishment due to geopolitics extending all the way to .... song competitions, that the average competitor has no way, shape or form or influencing.

The past three months has been very depressing for me culminating with the consulate services ban, especially since i'm starting to doubt if we're any better than the ones we claim are the evil ones.
 
From the videos posted I liked the Armenian song a lot more than Swiss, Croatia or France.
 
Absolute ignorance.
Remember when the Zimbabwean government dismissed their FA leaders for accusations of corruption and sexual abuse, and the entire country was suspended by FIFA? That's what you want to clamp down on, not waging a massive war and threatening to use nuclear weapons every five minutes.
 
Absolute ignorance.

If you understood for just a single second what the Ukrainian government has decided to do to its peoples in the past few months, you wouldn't be saying that.
It's exactly what Russia has been doing to it own peoples (sans the invasion).

It's soul destroying.

And then this whole mentality of "Russians are our enemy" shit that the new military leadership has instilled everywhere, it's actually horrible. We've completely ignored the human factor of this. Ukrainians living abroad are getting encouragement to "fight the Russians everywhere"

This is not good, it's not moral and we're sinking to their level.
 
Ah yes, the whims of collective punishment due to geopolitics extending all the way to .... song competitions, that the average competitor has no way, shape or form or influencing.

The past three months has been very depressing for me culminating with the consulate services ban, especially since i'm starting to doubt if we're any better than the ones we claim are the evil ones.

I don't agree with your opinion but even If I did I'm not sure innocent bystander theory applies. It was a political song before it got changed, the whole campaign was to 'support Israel' and she's talked about joining the IDF.

You'll see the reaction is for them to claim support now, which I think proves they shouldn't have participated. This isn't banning random sports people, a public vote is far too easily misused for platforming.
 
Ah yes, the whims of collective punishment due to geopolitics extending all the way to .... song competitions, that the average competitor has no way, shape or form or influencing.

The past three months has been very depressing for me culminating with the consulate services ban, especially since i'm starting to doubt if we're any better than the ones we claim are the evil ones.
Hmmm, yes, wanting countries who invade their neighbours and genocide captive populations to face consequences are as evil as actually doing those things.

Fecking hell, man, have a word with yourself.
 
If you understood for just a single second what the Ukrainian government has decided to do to its peoples in the past few months, you wouldn't be saying that.
It's exactly what Russia has been doing (sans the invasion).

Take a second and read what you just wrote. This is an insane thing to say, no matter what your point is.
 
My brother cracks me up. Haven't been watching this, but just went into the room where he was watching and I asked him who'd won. He told me Switzerland and he had some scrappy old notepad and was writing down the winner in it.

Asked him how long he'd been doing that - since 1990 and he's kept his little list of winners all this time.

So typical of him, I love that guy!
 
Ah yes, the whims of collective punishment due to geopolitics extending all the way to .... song competitions, that the average competitor has no way, shape or form or influencing.

The past three months has been very depressing for me culminating with the consulate services ban, especially since i'm starting to doubt if we're any better than the ones we claim are the evil ones.

Care to explain your thinking here? I don't understand where you're coming from.
 
My brother cracks me up. Haven't been watching this, but just went into the room where he was watching and I asked him who'd won. He told me Switzerland and he had some scrappy old notepad and was writing down the winner in it.

Asked him how long he'd been doing that - since 1990 and he's kept his little list all this time.

So typical of him, I love that guy!

What a legend
 
My brother cracks me up. Haven't been watching this, but just went into the room where he was watching and I asked him who'd won. He told me Switzerland and he had some scrappy old notepad and was writing down the winner in it.

Asked him how long he'd been doing that - since 1990 and he's kept his little list all this time.

So typical of him, I love that guy!

Should be upgrading to a colour coded spreadsheet. Very funny though. :lol:
 
Ah yes, the whims of collective punishment due to geopolitics extending all the way to .... song competitions, that the average competitor has no way, shape or form or influencing.

The past three months has been very depressing for me culminating with the consulate services ban, especially since i'm starting to doubt if we're any better than the ones we claim are the evil ones.
You were cool when you were just doing military analysis.
 
Ah yes, the whims of collective punishment due to geopolitics extending all the way to .... song competitions, that the average competitor has no way, shape or form or influencing.

The past three months has been very depressing for me culminating with the consulate services ban, especially since i'm starting to doubt if we're any better than the ones we claim are the evil ones.
Who’s “we”?