European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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So, it seems like people decided that proxy battles between Russia, Qatar, China and Saudi Arabia on the football pitch is better than having an ESL. That's fine by me, but I hope people realize what they're rallying against.

I for one am not happy about United, Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming irrelevant clubs because they can't really compete against nation state levels of wealth and excess. Know that financial fair play is well and truly dead because of what has transpired over the past year or two. A billion for Qatar is nothing - a rounding error in their oil revenues. A billion for Barcelona is the difference between bankruptcy and survival as a football club.

If anything, I'd welcome our Saudi overlords if they chose to take over United. I hope you do too, otherwise what awaits is just a slow fade to obscurity.

Or maybe you could simply decide to do something against ownership like this and stop inflating prices for everyone, how about that?
Not to mention that the ESL was never supposed to stop the dirty money, it would have only exaggerated the problem.
 
So why hasn’t he been this vocal before? Fans have asked for them to speak out about the reality of our ownership but only now can Souness talks about dividends the Glazers have taken since 2005? Only now can Neville direct his frustration at the Glazers on TV? This is what pisses me off with this situation. It should have been said 15 years ago, not now.
This, it's embarrassing to see him come alive after the club has finally being buried by the owners.
 
He can do what he likes. No one are going to consider who wins that farce of a competition European champions.

Is not about the competition anymore. I suspect monetary compensation of contractual obligations for the clubs that withdrew

But i hope he fails miserably. Dont get me wrong
 
Hey everybody!
Let's laugh at Liverpool and Chelsea dropping points!!!

:lol: :lol:

There was actual football this week??
I wonder what all the consultants and analysts that worked on this Super League project are thinking at the moment.

No doubt that smart people have done their research but the miscalculation truly is something else. This will be studied in universities what went wrong from a PR perspective.

Definitley. What an absolute shit show.
 
Or maybe you could simply decide to do something against ownership like this and stop inflating prices for everyone, how about that?
Not to mention that the ESL was never supposed to stop the dirty money, it would have only exaggerated the problem.

UEFA has already proven it can't do anything about money in football. For every regulation they put up, there are a 1000 ways to get around them. Business people are smart about figuring out workarounds, that's what they get paid for. And regulation can't keep up pace with the trickery that private companies can come up with.

I will wager now that this is a greenlight for the Newcastle take over and we'll be complaining about them in 2-3 years and in 10 years they will be at the level of a PSG or City.

Maybe this enough of a shock for UEFA that they'll do something serious, but I very much doubt they have it in them.
 
Have a read of this mate, sums it up.



Yeah, when people in the media talk about the clandestine meetings to create the super league, in actual fact it was more like that scene in Sunderland til I die where the owner is negotiating buying Will Greg.
 
Is this going to end up being Real Madrid & Barcelona playing each other over and over again?
 
I am so glad that this farce is over. But florentino has something under his sleeve. The ESL is over ( for now) and is the best news, but this guy is a shark of businesses and he always plays in a win wi. Situation.

Examples

He stole Figo from barcelona. If Figo was not about to come, he had to oay a huge lump of money (figo thought that he florentino would not win after real winning 2 champions with the previous board)

He had a project with ACS ( one of the biggest infrastructor contractors in the world, and he is the CEO) to exploit and area for oil in Spain. Aftet it was obvious that it was causing mini earthwakes and jeopardizing the area, de spanish government said to stop prospects and the spanosh government ( so the tax payers) will need to pay 1.5 billions in compensations

If after the 6 english teams that left, the others are staying in, is because there is big money involved. I dont know if it will be finally paid, but is not normal and i dont see Perez doing an amateurish move like this without a save back up plan

I was thinking about this before. How is possible that an agreement is broken so easily without further consequences? The lawyers must have prepared some very serious compensations for that case. It's either that, or what has happened was a completely unpredictable scenario that has caught everyone by surprise.
 
My 12 year old son and his pals would play FIFA all day, every day, if they could. Every single one of them thought this initiative was a terrible idea. They’ve grown up obsessed with the Champion’s League and didn’t want it scrapped.

I played a ton of FIFA with friends in college and after we got bored of 3-4 games of Madrid-Barca or United-Chelsea, we'd switch to some 70- or 60-rated teams. Surely the SL would have led to the same problem of repetition.
 


Perez isn't giving up! :lol:

I seriously don't know what else they can do to make this a reality.
 
I was thinking about this before. How is possible that an agreement is broken so easily without further consequences? The lawyers must have prepared some very serious compensations for that case. It's either that, or what has happened was a completely unpredictable scenario that has caught everyone by surprise.

I think they never expected the fans, the media, the Governments, and even Prince William to get involved so strongly. Once the Governments got involved the clubs that left can say it is void ab initio and leave without any compensations.
 
What a day this has been so far, especially when I was fearing the worse a couple of days back.

ESL gone - Check
Woody gone - Check
Glazers gone - In progress
 
Be piss funny when Leicester, Everton, Leeds, West Ham, Wolves and Southampton take the 6 spots instead.
 
What a complete farce this thing has been. Shows just how out of touch these total morons who run these clubs are. It would be amazing if the 50+1 rule could somehow come in off the back of this. If it's ever going to happen now is the time with this momentum.

Feck off Woodward you rat! Feck off Glazer scum!
 
Why does he keep saying the current system doesn't work? What doesn't work? Spending 150m on Dembele, Coutinho, Griezmann etc and failing constantly? Giving players 500k a week when you can't afford to do it? No shit. The clubs that are in trouble are the clubs that were out of control like Barca, Madrid and Juve. They are the ones who will be fecked and they are the ones who can't survive. Let them die. feck them.
 
I’m proud of every one of you here and all clubs supporters across the country.

Today we are all United.
 
Why does he keep saying the current system doesn't work? What doesn't work? Spending 150m on Dembele, Coutinho, Griezmann etc and failing constantly? Giving players 500k a week when you can't afford to do it? No shit. The clubs that are in trouble are the clubs that were out of control like Barca, Madrid and Juve. They are the ones who will be fecked and they are the ones who can't survive. Let them die. feck them.

Exactly. It doesn't work only because Barca and Real have terrible accountants.
 
So, it seems like people decided that proxy battles between Russia, Qatar, China and Saudi Arabia on the football pitch is better than having an ESL. That's fine by me, but I hope people realize what they're rallying against.

I for one am not happy about United, Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming irrelevant clubs because they can't really compete against nation state levels of wealth and excess. Know that financial fair play is well and truly dead because of what has transpired over the past year or two. A billion for Qatar is nothing - a rounding error in their oil revenues. A billion for Barcelona is the difference between bankruptcy and survival as a football club.

If anything, I'd welcome our Saudi overlords if they chose to take over United. I hope you do too, otherwise what awaits is just a slow fade to obscurity.
Yep, City and psg are a big reason why this shitstorm happened.
 
Big respect for Chelsea and City starting this domino effect. We were never going to withdraw otherwise

I dunno. They tried to pull the same shit as everyone else.

I feel like the clubs that jumped from the doomed project earliest are just trying to earn a bit of good will from doing so. They're as complicit in this whole disaster as every other club involved.
 
I was thinking about this before. How is possible that an agreement is broken so easily without further consequences? The lawyers must have prepared some very serious compensations for that case. It's either that, or what has happened was a completely unpredictable scenario that has caught everyone by surprise.
Football people are often amateurish despite the size of their business. At the end of the day, they are just a massive size SME. It's very possible they were not that good.