European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?

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El Larguero are having a strong go at Florentino Perez. They aren't letting him get away with it.
 
Luffy said:
What do you people think was the catalyst for the dismantling of the ESL? The fans’ protests? Amazon saying “no dice”? Or the first club announcing that they were going to leave?
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The fans knocked down the first domino. The rest then began to fall.
 
Rightnr said:
Government saying they'll get involved. You might have the best lawyers but they play within the rules i.e. laws.

You rewrite the rules and it doesn't matter you have the best players if someone comes to a sword fight with a bazooka.
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Ah, yes, I forgot the most powerful deterrent of them all. I have to agree.
 
sullydnl said:
Yep, they've set the idea back by decades.

They've thrown away the plan they were working on for years, burned bridges with other clubs including each other, lost authority and leverage with UEFA/FIFA and botched things so badly that clubs will be very slow to sign up to a similar fiasco again.

And that's without taking into account any actual measures that will be put in place to prevent something like this happening any time soon.
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Very well stated here.

New Coke was a fart in a pool compared to this.
 
So as far as attempted mutinies and coups go. Was this one of the worst in history?
 
Luffy said:
What do you people think was the catalyst for the dismantling of the ESL? The fans’ protests? Amazon saying “no dice”? Or the first club announcing that they were going to leave?
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Fans reaction - esp. on Twitter & The FA meeting Boris
 
I for one feel bad for Mourinho. He gave his life as a Martyr for football, and within the next day it all went back to normal. :lol:
 
Luffy said:
What do you people think was the catalyst for the dismantling of the ESL? The fans’ protests? Amazon saying “no dice”? Or the first club announcing that they were going to leave?
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They got off to a bad start right away. It was supposed to have 15 founding clubs. Without Bayern and PSG it already became harder to sell.
 
Adam-Utd said:
I for one feel bad for Mourinho. He gave his life as a Martyr for football, and within the next day it all went back to normal. :lol:
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We all won but Spurs seem to have come out on top from these past few days. Imagine if they beat City now as well :lol:.
 
I haven’t had this many crashes in this site in a while.

It would be interesting to see the analytics of this site over the past 48 hours.
 
If anything, this whole debacle just reignited worldwide interest in football and has put way, way more eyes on it than ever before. This'll probably be one of the unintended benefits for all of the teams; more people will now be tuning into the Champions League and Europa League tournaments with more appreciation for the teams outside of the big 12.
 
How out of touch you have to be to think that this will just pass and you can schrug the uproar off. Also they might got what they wanted from UEFA but there is no return from it for them in the eyes of everyone else.

Also think this aint over, they will try to let dust settle a bit and they will start coctailing something else but also hoping that gov. and others use this time to start placing laws and tools to combat these cnuts on legal battlefield aswell.

Edit: If possible we should have this thread pinned because like i said, this is just the beggining of the battle.
 
Rightnr said:
Yeah but it was the English clubs that broke this whole thing. So if the Yanks knew their audience, they would have known this would never fly.
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That's a bit of a stretch. German and french clubs rejected it first, English only left when the pressure was too much and sponsors leaving them.
 
Zen86 said:
They anticipated pushback from the fans, but I think they severely underestimated the sheer scale of public outcry that this would generate. It was bound to trigger sponsors to run for the hills. I don’t think the govt taking a tough stance helped either.
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bsCallout said:
The fans knocked down the first domino. The rest then began to fall.
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Tincanalley said:
Fans reaction - esp. on Twitter & The FA meeting Boris
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Aye, I agree that the fans set the ball rolling. Once that happened, I guess it was going to be too much of an easy issue to champion for the govt.
 
HOLD UP


What's the logic behind this? Are they going to make their tournament into a yearly pre-season tournament, or are they going to make this into a tournament amongst themselves similar to the tournaments in the early 1900s?

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Can anyone confirm that there is a fine associated with leaving the Super League that those clubs have signed? Would be funny to see them all tear each other apart as their little league is burning to the ground.
 
mazhar13 said:
HOLD UP


What's the logic behind this? Are they going to make their tournament into a yearly pre-season tournament, or are they going to make this into a tournament amongst themselves similar to the tournaments in the early 1900s?
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And who is going to put money behind that? Whatever financial agreement they had is null and void now that the teams are leaving.
 
Rightnr said:
We all won but Spurs seem to have come out on top from these past few days. Imagine if they beat City now as well :lol:.
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The only ones that won are the ones that back in the CL with potentially more money. Arsenal, Spurs are fecked. Especially spurs. Massive debt not making CL and now SL dead in the water, it's far from ideal for them.
 
When I was a younger man, I thought that the people at the top must know what they were doing. That they were smart informed people, that if the decisions they made seem stupid, it only seemed that way because I didn't have the information or perspective that they have.

I reasoned that surely to get to a position of power, you must be intelligent, educated and reasonable.

I have come to realise that power is split between lucky morons, morons with money, and malicious, blood sucking vampires, who are usually morons.

Never has this been made more clear to me than this hilarious clusterfeck.
 
JPRouve said:
That's a bit of a stretch. German and french clubs rejected it first, English only left when the pressure was too much and sponsors leaving them.
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PSG would have joined, the Germans couldn't. My point was more about the English fans.

I think the German fans would have done the same but it didn't even get that far with them because of their club structure.
 
mazhar13 said:
HOLD UP


What's the logic behind this? Are they going to make their tournament into a yearly pre-season tournament, or are they going to make this into a tournament amongst themselves similar to the tournaments in the early 1900s?

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Can’t see this lasting another 24 more hours.
 
Sayros said:
Can anyone confirm that there is a fine associated with leaving the Super League that those clubs have signed? Would be funny to see them all tear each other apart as their little league is burning to the ground.
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If they all leave then probably not. Also apparently it wasn't legally binding until it started so therefore they might get away with it. Im sure they will get some payoff from Uefa anyway
 
VorZakone said:
They got off to a bad start right away. It was supposed to have 15 founding clubs. Without Bayern and PSG it already became harder to sell.
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Yep, I missed that one out as well. A very valid point. Can’t have a super league without last year’s CL finalists.
 
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