European Super League

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I’m sure the Govt could stipulate shares must be sold to fans over a period of 5-10 years or something. Or the govt could lend the money with a repayment plan over a period of time.

Now you’re talking
 
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When the dust settles all the foreign owners need to go, they need to adopt the German 50+1 rule.
 
The BBC are reporting Chelsea decided to withdraw before the fan protests.

It might be more down to the UK government's stance and just general backlash in the UK.

It's quite something that the Uefa president was calling for England's sporting culture to help sort this out this morning.
Abramovich thinking a couple of steps ahead here, it is absolutely not in his interest to create problems with the UK government.
 
Ed Woodward's achievements at United

0 x Premier League
0 x Champions League
0 x Super League

Specialist in failure. Get fecked
 
Its certainly off to a good start this Super League. I'm well impressed so far :lol:
 
I’m sure the Govt could stipulate shares must be sold to fans over a period of 5-10 years or something. Or the govt could lend the money with a repayment plan over a period of time.

United is worth $4.2 bn alone, are you talking about all British clubs or just United - could be a rather big loan considering they are borrowing frantically to cover Covid and Brexit.

Back in the real world...
 
Isn't United worth 4 billion? And didn't Glazers refused 2,5 billion offer few years ago?

The point would if the Govt made 50.1% fan ownership mandatory they would have to sell that stake to fans. They wouldn’t be allowed to keep it. In terms of the valuation that’s what would get tricky.
 
I don’t know about that. Ed withdrew United from the ECA and himself from a position on fifa or uefa (can’t remember which). United went balls in on this idea

Well I do know about that! It's not like clubs weren't serious, other than the sugar daddy clubs, everyone will suffer hard from the economic damages due to the pandemic and other than Chelsea and City, the owners run the club like a business instead of a project for other personal gains so they are feeling the heat.

It's just that this Super League set up was the ultimate or nuclear option. It really seems like ideally it would be used just as a pressure tool by the clubs in order to get more money and influence in the future CL. There's simply nothing concrete that would suggest a Super League would suddenly magically start next season. They've been planning for it for years, in general terms, but other than that... It would be a terrible idea from a business POV as well, they'd still have to negotiate a revolutionary broadcast deal in only a couple of weeks. More European matches while there's the COVID insecurity about filling the stadiums.

One of the most (if not the most) expensive sport enterprises in history, and all we've seen is a ridiculous name (countless of other organisations use the Super League name as well apparently), a lousy, cheap website, check it out https://thesuperleague.com, and Florentino Perez acting like my delusional uncle. In the meanwhile they've magically kept all these revolutionary plans a secret, since every journalist or other person involved in sports was just as surprised and taken aback by the idea as everyone on here. That just doesn't make sense.

On a sidenote, the weirdest thing I read today is that UEFA president Ceferin is/was supposed to be the godfather of Juventus chairman Agnelli's daughter. Which both makes for a lovely drama and perfectly illustrates how deeply intertwined all the top figures in top football are, with all the potential negative side effects from that.
 
When the dust settles all the foreign owners need to go, they need to adopt the German 50+1 rule.

All for it. I am a foreign fan, but if I was asked to contribute, I would chip in with pleasure. The leeches, the parasites showed their greed and utter stupidity once again. We know their colours and they won't change.
 
It's fecking comical how quickly this unraveled. That's what happens with a bunch of out of touch suits do everything in secret; there's no one around to point out how stupid your plan is.
 
Not to burst the bubble of the great news, but should we be worried about the "revenge of the glazers" over this? They could decide not to give Ole any money to strengthen the team. If they are pissed enough, they could let the club rot.
 
United is worth $4.2 bn alone, are you talking about all British clubs or just United - could be a rather big loan considering they are borrowing frantically to cover Covid and Brexit.

Back in the real world...

They spent £20bn on track and trace in like 3 months. It’s a very small loan in terms of Govt budgets. They wouldn’t even necessarily have to loan it either just offer a guarantee to a bank. A fan backed leveraged buyout would work much better than the glazers leveraged buyout.
 
When the dust settles all the foreign owners need to go, they need to adopt the German 50+1 rule.
A thousand times yes. Do not end this here, never forget what these cnuts have done to two institutions of European and English football. Arsenal too I guess. Clubs built on principles traditions values and ethos. Of people like Shankly Ferguson Busby Dalglish Fagan Paisley. They dragged us through the mud. They have to face a reckoning.
 
This was actually shambolic from everyone involved :wenger:

The fact that it fell apart so easily also shows the parties involved were never convinced themselves.
 
when the dust settles and Ed and the Glazers hopefully fecks off for ever, we will be stuck with a corrupted UEFA and an oil state club who buys the league every year. I hope there is also a solution to that problem.
 
Let's all calm down here
You certainly weren't calm the night this shambles was announced, posting and responding to everyone. So take your pill and go watch some Classico highlights from 10 years ago.
 
They spent £20bn on track and trace in like 3 months. It’s a very small loan in terms of Govt budgets. They wouldn’t even necessarily have to loan it either just offer a guarantee to a bank. A fan backed leveraged buyout would work much better than the glazers leveraged buyout.

It couldn't just be United, it would have to be for all clubs , it would cost a lot more than £20bn
 
Well I do know about that! It's not like clubs weren't serious, other than the sugar daddy clubs, everyone will suffer hard from the economic damages due to the pandemic and other than Chelsea and City, the owners run the club like a business instead of a project for other personal gains so they are feeling the heat.

It's just that this Super League set up was the ultimate or nuclear option. It really seems like ideally it would be used just as a pressure tool by the clubs in order to get more money and influence in the future CL. There's simply nothing concrete that would suggest a Super League would suddenly magically start next season. They've been planning for it for years, in general terms, but other than that... It would be a terrible idea from a business POV as well, they'd still have to negotiate a revolutionary broadcast deal in only a couple of weeks. More European matches while there's the COVID insecurity about filling the stadiums.

One of the most (if not the most) expensive sport enterprises in history, and all we've seen is a ridiculous name (countless of other organisations use the Super League name as well apparently), a lousy, cheap website, check it out https://thesuperleague.com, and Florentino Perez acting like my delusional uncle. In the meanwhile they've magically kept all these revolutionary plans a secret, since every journalist or other person involved in sports was just as surprised and taken aback by the idea as everyone on here. That just doesn't make sense.

On a sidenote, the weirdest thing I read today is that UEFA president Ceferin is/was supposed to be the godfather of Juventus chairman Agnelli's daughter. Which both makes for a lovely drama and perfectly illustrates how deeply intertwined all the top figures in top football are, with all the potential negative side effects from that.
Christ I just looked at their site. Musta been knocked up in a hurry
 
United is worth $4.2 bn alone, are you talking about all British clubs or just United - could be a rather big loan considering they are borrowing frantically to cover Covid and Brexit.

Back in the real world...
Are we? I think the worth is about half what you say.
 
A thousand times yes. Do not end this here, never forget what these cnuts have done to two institutions of European and English football. Arsenal too I guess. Clubs built on principles traditions values and ethos. Of people like Shankly Ferguson Busby Dalglish Fagan Paisley. They dragged us through the mud. They have to face a reckoning.

It's probably too late for that though, these owners are already here.

You might be able to legislate to stop future owners like this coming in, but not sure what legal grounds there are for imposing rules on these clubs who've already been bought.

It's their property at the end of the day.