I think it was accidentalHe did
As for klopp he needs to quickly realise Gary Neville is not his enemy here.
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As for klopp he needs to quickly realise Gary Neville is not his enemy here.
It’s all that spit in his mouth. Messes with his sibilance.
To be fair though. I think Klopp does have a point, it's not the Staff, Managers or Players fault, yet they're the ones that will shoulder the majority of the critism because they're the face and branding of each club. Obviously he's going to defend his staff and players from negativity, it's his job. He's defended his chairman and the owners though which is where the real issues lie, ultimately he's in bed with the devil right now so tough shit Klopp. I will feel the same way if Ole comes out and defends the Glazers and Woodward and i've been one of Oles biggests fans on here, defending him from day 1.
If you truly love football like these guys claim then you have to make a stand against shit like this otherwise you're part of the problem.
and this is why there will never be a united voice in football. Too much tribalism and bickering . Klopp just missing the entire fecking point
Reddit isn’t too bad for that to be honest. Most of RAWK will probably be against the ESL but like carra said people will back klopp to the hilt. I’ll back klopp completely unless he endorses the super league, but that doesn’t mean I don’t think he needs to be given the message that this isn’t a personal attack by Gary Neville.
I don't see that coming to fruition but I wonder if the big 6 clubs would then apply to the EFL if the other teams vote for them to leave.
Paul Hayward: "Abramovich's motives are interesting. Made Chelsea socially conscious but no longer has UK visa and Anglo-Russian relations are dire. Work on the club's image ditched?"
This is a good/interesting point..
I agree with him on that but Neville never said it was the clubs fault. He made it clear that it was the owners who are dragging the club through the mud. Klopp obviously didn't listen to him and was picking a fight because he doesn't like him. I don't get how Neville followed the money at United. He came through the academy and was at the club for 20 years through merit. Bizarre comments.
Nope
I also heard Carragher saying ‘shitty fans’
Why not immediately? Why wait till end of season?
Any video of the Klopp Neville stuff yet?
I think if the 14 clubs agree they can actually do it.
Just a case of emotions running high. He needed to vent so took it out On Neville
Steve Parish is a fecking snake
Learnt that from Ed
I would love to know what his beef is with Gary. Not the first time he's insulted him.I think it was accidental
As for klopp he needs to quickly realise Gary Neville is not his enemy here.
He probably has posters of Ed on his walls.
Amazing isn't it?
Neville made the point earlier in the day that we should put aside our allegiances and come together in opposition of the ESL, and he was absolutely right, then Klopp goes and does the opposite.
RAWK unsurprisingly backing Klopp to the hilt too. Sigh.
Who knows. Whole thing has been a rollercoaster.
Klopp came across so poorly in his interview. Really missed the point. Kept talking about t-shirts. What is it with Liverpool and t-shirts.
In a weird way, this might even strengthen the business case for the ESL.
People could end being fans of one PL team and one ESL team, safe in the knowledge that they play in different leagues. A bit like a United fan might have favourite Spanish team.
It remains to be seen how everything will play out. But it wouldn't surprise me if the stronger the divide, the more secure each product will be.
Good. I want all 6 of us to be told that you dare do this nonsense, you aren't welcome in the Premier League or any league in English football.
Why is this keep getting branded around it's a european tournament designed to be played at home and away, no team will play in America and the naming rights won't become Manchester Red Devils Fire Rapids or whatever concoction someone makes up. It's getting ridiculous. This will not happen.
No its not. The UCL is all about money. All about money 100%.
The champions league as it stands has nothing to do with champions at all. By the very nature of it "champions" the tournament, should be the "champions" of each league in europe. But it's not its the champions plus 3 extra teams that are in it just because UEFA arguably want to make more money from it. It's not the champions league at all. It's the top half of each big league and some other champions from other smaller competitions. Which is effectively unfair in itself anyway & gatekeeping the smaller countries champions from competing. Since I can remember no team outside the bigger leagues in Europe have won it apart from England, Italy, France, Spain and Germany. I know there'll be the odd one or two, but the point is the UCL is dominated by those big leagues because there are so many more teams from them leagues in it than a team from Turkey for example.
That's what it all boils down to for both sides of the argument. Money.
Sky kept bringing the t-shirts up to be fair to Klopp.
Maybe they could but they'd be writing their own death warrant.
Don't blame them at all. Why would rest of the league put them in position to be treated differently because of popularity?
Chose. Super League (with 20 games) for kids with videogames or stay and honour your heritage, history and fans?
Someone needs to send Klopp the fecking memo. Jesus Christ we need unity, ya damn guy.
What are U2 up to these days. Elevation
This so called "superleague" is a joke, even if Bayern, Dortmund and PSG joined it, normal CL would still be 1000 times better. Yes CL/EL could need some changes but this aint the solution...
This. The PL, as a product, will become completely worthless without those clubs.
I believe they see it that in long run, they would eventually lose out to new money richer kids. Chelsea got their CL, and still about and around the top of PL. City and especially PSG is edging closer to a CL win. There is no stopping clubs being bought out by other states. RM, Juventus, us, Liverpool... are only able to stay at the top while still having our financial advantage over many other clubs. However, they can't sustain the spending while the owner want their share of profit.
Then spending doesn't guarantee CL football, let alone successes. And spending the money wise is not easy for these money grabbers. Inflation only gets worse with more new money getting into the game. Even winning is not enough to pay for the expenses, see Barcelona as recent example.
So these guys want security. By making their own closed competitions, they have more advantage at the negotiation table with the players. If the players want to play in ESL, there are only very few spots available, so choose us or choose new money from new sugar daddy clubs.
Since performance is not harshly punished anymore, it means they have more control on the spending. If they don't feel they can get going in a specific season, they may as well not spending at all. Bottom of the ESL doesn't hurt with guaranteed inclusion. They only need to invest during the star aligning seasons, and even then it's an if for these greedy bastards. They always try to get the most profit out of the situation. If getting to the final but guaranteed losing to a superior, money then they might as well do just that to save money and improve profit margin.
So those are much more advantage in this for these clubs owners than spending money in current climate.
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They won't do it because the league will be fecked revenue wise
I'm not sure the breakaway clubs care. Their long term goal is to probably leave anyway.
feck off with this disgrace of a viewpoint