"The boys" won't be long changing their tune when they get a slice of the money pie.
European Super League
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I am sick to my stomach about this. It is the worst, most diabolical development of my 40 plus years supporting United.
That is not a blase comment. I can just about remember our relegation from the First Division and our resurrection under Tommy Docherty.
Alex Ferguson's retirement was a shock.
But this!! There has to be a way to get the Glazers' grabbing hands off our club. Because it is not THEIRS it is ours.
I for one will NEVER set foot in Old Trafford if we are in this tinpot super league. And i invite others to follow suit.
But really this needs action that goes far and away beyond boycotts.
What the Glazers have done has brought our club into disrepute.
They have defecated on 143 years of our history.
They have made our record 20 English league titles, 12 FA Cups, five League Cups and three European Cups/Champions Leagues seem worthless.
They cannot get away with this abomination.
That is not a blase comment. I can just about remember our relegation from the First Division and our resurrection under Tommy Docherty.
Alex Ferguson's retirement was a shock.
But this!! There has to be a way to get the Glazers' grabbing hands off our club. Because it is not THEIRS it is ours.
I for one will NEVER set foot in Old Trafford if we are in this tinpot super league. And i invite others to follow suit.
But really this needs action that goes far and away beyond boycotts.
What the Glazers have done has brought our club into disrepute.
They have defecated on 143 years of our history.
They have made our record 20 English league titles, 12 FA Cups, five League Cups and three European Cups/Champions Leagues seem worthless.
They cannot get away with this abomination.
People are deluded if they don't feel this exposes United to potentially playing "home" games abroad just like the NFL. To potentially moving stadiums, being renamed etc at some point down the line. History, local fans, mean nothing, absolutely nothing to the owners, they're just barriers to more income.
No they won't? They shouldn't anyway. What aren't you understanding, it's not the same organisation, its a totally separate entity. There's no logical reason why the titles should carry over.
Would have probably happened in the PL at some point anyway IMO.
You've been clear on the importance of letting people have their opinions. Someone shared their opinion about you, that's a good thing. Let people have their opinions about your opinions.
Exactly
One think I can not wrap my head around is the fecking managers of these clubs finding out the same day they announced it. Not consulted at all. Forget not caring about the fans, we fecking knew that already, these football clubs don’t care about their own staff, management and players. It’s so so incredibly sad that this is the game now - whether this goes ahead or not.
A thorough inquest is needed into football ownership. These are British businesses, if not considered to be merely football clubs anymore, and they are acting without any interest in the British people or our economy.
A thorough inquest is needed into football ownership. These are British businesses, if not considered to be merely football clubs anymore, and they are acting without any interest in the British people or our economy.
Apparently UEFA are consulting their legal team so will know more by friday
You cheeky buggerArsenal and Spurs probably tried to veto this
Touching the screen that much *shudder*
They tried that with the Game 39 bullshit and it was shot down very quickly
Yes! Finally!
There's a few here who also think this.
Money always talks but this seems a hot fecking mess to touch right now. Its quite interesting that no other club has come forward as one of the next 3 clubs. I mean maybe they can get Zenit or Gent. But then whats fecking super about that when you already have crap like the NL clubs already in it
The first division still exists under the Championship name now, same trophy that used to be awarded to the champions of England. But these day's it's not the top tier of English football.
That's how these clubs think. They will consider the winners of the Super League the champions of Europe.
I can see them selling naming rights for the stadium now. They have shown the fans no respect so why bother about any uproar over that.
"Let's hear what the referee has to say about that decision, brought to you by SquareSpace!"
Personal attacks are not opinions. No matter if you agree or not.
I think it would have happened at some point though.
Will they throw these cute flags on the pitch too ? Also, how long the commercial break after a field goal?
The US college system is only fully relevant to the NFL. Basketball only somewhat because of the age rule. Baseball is almost entirely AAU then minor-leagues - high schoolers get drafted by MLB teams and go straight into the minors.
As for MLS... it's a mess.
This what I thought at first. The whole thing played out strangely this weekend, with UEFA and domestic leagues teaming up for a pre-announcement condemnation, followed by the ESL announcement, which was obviously timed to front-run UEFA's announcement of changes to the CL/EL. Note that both ESL and UEFA changes aren't set to happen until 2023/24 (I think). That's a lot of time for negotiations.
This American does not like it. I do think most American fans will be savvy enough about the whole situation to not like it as well, but I could be wrong. On the whole, if they're the type of fan you fear, they're more easily distracted by the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc. I do think you're right about the average Asian fans, though, as they don't have as well-developed, high-level professional sports leagues as the rest of the world.
To give it history and heritage
Wonder if Arsenal asked if they can include their Emirates Cup trophysArsenal and Spurs with their runner-up medals...
What are missing here of course that individual law or a paragraph do not stand alone. This means the lawyers hired by the ESL might hope that other law that have higher importance in the hierarchy of the current law system will override the breach of this particular paragraph in the guidelines. They might also believe there are precedent set earlier that would allow them to do this. Hence why they done a lot of prep work in a legal manner before going public with this is my guess. But this dosn´t mean that they win in the court system however as the judges that will reside over this upcoming court battle will agree with this.
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This was attempted years ago and the mic picked up the players shouting at the refs. Was quite funny
You don't like this? I think it's a great idea and have wanted it for a while.
Will they wear stripey shirts?
Will it be a case of the law of diminishing returns as it relates to the constant occurrence of games pitting the same big clubs versus one another? For example, what is it that makes the World Cup such an extravaganza and an emotionally gripping and uniting experience? Would that sentiment be the same if the WC was once every year or two, for example, or does the sporadic nature of its scheduling allow for the development of anticipation and hype to culminate at the end of a four year waiting period?
I believe that they are recognised as world champions, historically, for those Olympic gold medals, and so they should. However, you don't see England branding those Olympic championships as World Cups (or even worse, "FIFA World Cups"). Their old Olympic accomplishments are appropriately recognised separately from their FIFA accomplishments (if only the FIFA didn't gloss over/ignore the old Olympic tournaments...).
Thus start the innovations. Hopefully we see some good come off of those and introduced to football as a whole. About this particular change...explaining all of the decisions will add extra, unnecessary delays, and if they implement it like the NFL do (with refs separating themselves from the players), it'll take a bit of time before we even get to an explanation of the more contentious calls.
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IIRC David Elleray was miked up for a Division One game in the late 80s for a trial, but it was shelved after the match was basically 90 minutes of him being sworn at and abused by the players.
Isnt it conflict of interest having some of the clubs owners as chairmen?
Has Ole said anything? Worrying the players aren't happy, but where could they go bar Bayern or PSG? All other "big" clubs are in it...
Has Ole said anything? Worrying the players aren't happy, but where could they go bar Bayern or PSG? All other "big" clubs are in it...
No wonder Levy sacked Mourinho right after they join ESL, or Mourinho wouldn't hold back reminding them of their heritage