EU Referendum Results Thread | Leave have won, Cameron resigns

How did you vote to this: Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the EU or leave the EU?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 321 75.5%
  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 80 18.8%
  • Spoiled ballot

    Votes: 24 5.6%

  • Total voters
    425
  • Poll closed .
:lol: :lol: this is one of the funniest things I've read in a long time. To even think that this level of qualifications and experience (primarily the latter) means you are in any way an informed voter is laughable.
The fact that that's what you got from what I said does represent your lack of intelligence. The point I was trying to make is that not everyone who is voting league is uneducated. Not that being uneducated neccesarily makes you less intelligent in Politics anyway.
 
I cannot believe my country is full of moronic half wits. Sorry but it's really hard to stay calm and politically correct when we now know that more than half the country evaluated the evidence and fecked us up long and short term anyway.
I think you are giving them too much credit.
 
Heard head of Morgan Stanley talking about the possible need to move headquarters to Dublin or Frankfurt as a result of this. Despite the problems this presents for Ireland, it also presents quite a few opportunities.

Some of my clients already had plans in place to relocate.
 
I have GCSE's, A Levels and I'm starting studying a degree come September. Many people in my area are the same, saying that everyone who has voted out don't have the same levels of intelligence as people voting in is hilarious. Plus let's say for example someone has a degree in something like English Literature, does that mean they know more about politics than someone else? I highly doubt that.

Mental. Even just the opportunity to study abroad, work abroad and work together with other cultures should surely resonate more with you. It's shut the UK off and they've ran away from any sort of co-operation. Ridiculous really.
 
Britain leaving the EU might actually be good. Decreasing foreign investments may mean things like housing will actually be affordable to the average citizen. Y'all agree? Or am I just misguided...
Erm hugely misguided. Look at the bigger picture ffs.
 
Incredible. I wasn't expecting this. Damien practically called it. Hope he bet on that as a consolation prize
 
They still (and should) have a right to vote though. As annoying as it is.

For how long? Every generation will get older by default, and we already have a bigger surplus of elderly people than any generation in history....If the old outnumber the young, then how can voting for the future of said young ever be fair?

By definition they have a democratic right to vote....But lets not pretend there isn't at least a devil's advocate argument against.
 
As if to underline the point I made earlier...



The old have fecked the young...


As I said earlier - The baby boomer generation had it handed to them on a plate by their parents who sacrificed every thing for them. They lived on credit, buying houses and holiday homes and making it incredibly difficult for the following generations to have even a modest first home. Their parting gift to those following generations? fecking up the economy further and bringing back the values their preceding generation died fighting against.
 
The old haven't really fecked the young have they... There are more young people after all. Let's not go into percentage, ratios and proportion math but they don't give you actual numbers.
 
You clearly don't understand what I'm saying.

You asked if a person with an English degree would have a good understanding of this political topic. I'm saying that the average person with a college degree will have better critical reasoning skills than you do... So in short, yes, they'd know better than you.
I don't know how many people you know with degrees, but let's just say you don't have to be a genius to get one by any means.
 
Britain leaving the EU might actually be good. Decreasing foreign investments may mean things like housing will actually be affordable to the average citizen. Y'all agree? Or am I just misguided...

Not even close to being right.
 
The fact that that's what you got from what I said does represent your lack of intelligence. The point I was trying to make is that not everyone who is voting league is uneducated. Not that being uneducated neccesarily makes you less intelligent in Politics anyway.

Yes my lack of intelligence. In 3 years time (or maybe 4), you will stick your head in the sand.
 
Mental. Even just the opportunity to study abroad, work abroad and work together with other cultures should surely resonate more with you. It's shut the UK off and they've ran away from any sort of co-operation. Ridiculous really.
British people worked abroad before 1974 and I'm sure they will do after the result tonight.
 
So, this has actually happened. I don´t really have words for that.

I have no idea how big the effects of the Brexit will be.

Some things I´m pretty certain of, though:

- The rift between Scotland and the rest of the UK is now immense and I don´t see them staying much longer.
- The UK is now the country to look at for countries thinking about having a similar vote, meaining that depending on how the UK fares now has the potential to become a threat to the Union itself.
- The UK is also now the poster child for every EU sceptic party in Europe, including the French nationalists and the German "AfD". They will celebrate every success the UK will have now and push further against the established parties. This makes the UK now a direct political threat to the current German and French governments. They will try everything to sell the coming negotiations of the trade deal between the UK and the EU as success.
- All economies in the EU will take a blow, the UK by far the hardest.

This will be some fun negotiations. The EU led by Germany and France won´t give the UK an inch in these talks. From where I stand the UK will be lucky to have the same deal Norway has, which includes free movement and single market, so the vast majority of the rules of the EU. UK will follow the same rules they do right now without any influence to make and change them. Well done UK, well done. History being made indeed.
 
So for the first time in 12 months Donald Trump will take the backseat in news for at least the next week.
 
Think this is it for me and the Caf for a while, not sure how to take this, completely terrified about what might happen.
 
As I said earlier - The baby boomer generation had it handed to them on a plate by their parents who sacrificed every thing for them. They lived on credit, buying houses and holiday homes and making it incredibly difficult for the following generations to have even a modest first home. Their parting gift to those following generations? fecking up the economy further and bringing back the values their preceding generation died fighting against.

I said it too....

The Boomer generation, who've shaped the late 20th and early 21st centuries with the their post-war progressive counter culture, have left a terrible legacy of debt and inequality in their wake, by becoming the very anarchic obstacles they strove against, refusing to relinquish or compromise their power for the betterment of the next generation.

The fact the young no longer have agency over their own future is a big, big problem.

But with all said and done, what are we going to do about it?

I can see more riots down the line...
 
Crazy things is NONE of the politicos or bigwigs wanted this or have any passion to implement a leave strategy. So who will do the work?
 
I don't know how many people you know with degrees, but let's just say you don't have to be a genius to get one by any means.
Showing your age now. That's a sweeping statement without any fecking context.

Go find someone with a 1st class honours in Maths, Engineering or Computer Science and tell me they're stupid.
British people worked abroad before 1974 and I'm sure they will do after the result tonight.
and what exactly do you know about how easy it was to do so?
 
As I said earlier - The baby boomer generation had it handed to them on a plate by their parents who sacrificed every thing for them. They lived on credit, buying houses and holiday homes and making it incredibly difficult for the following generations to have even a modest first home. Their parting gift to those following generations? fecking up the economy further and bringing back the values their preceding generation died fighting against.

Yep. As a young person I feel utterly alienated in my own country and relentlessly attacked by older voters.
 
Damn those babies for not going out and voting! Racist OAP xenophobic cnuts.
Go find someone with a 1st class honours in Maths, Engineering or Computer Science and tell me they're stupid.
And there are people with these things who voted out!

By people I mean OAPs obviously because young people wouldn't have voted out...
 
Yep. As a young person I feel utterly alienated in my own country and relentlessly attacked by older voters.

I'm the same, I just cannot believe that so many thought it was a good idea to leave.
 
I'm young, going into teaching, live in the north of England and am genuinely gutted by this.

It's anecdotal, but the amount of uneducated feckwits I know that have voted leave, in tandem with the baby boomer generation that have no thought or consideration for the young, have left the country in a remarkable hole.

Boris Johnson will bring the working poor to its knees. I wonder how all of these racist feckwits will feel then?
 
Showing your age now. That's a sweeping statement without any fecking context.

Go find someone with a 1st class honours in Maths, Engineering or Computer Science and tell me they're stupid.

and what exactly do you know about how easy it was to do so?
It wasn't long ago you were telling me all working class people were thick and elderly were racist. Is there an age requirement for sweeping statements that I'm unaware of?
Of course people like you suggested are hugely intelligent I wouldn't disagree with you. But I know people who are doing let's say sports science and fashion degrees who aren't exactly "intelligent"
 
So, this has actually happened. I don´t really have words for that.

I have no idea how big the effects of the Brexit will be.

Some things I´m pretty certain of, though:

- The rift between Scotland and the rest of the UK is now immense and I don´t see them staying much longer.
- The UK is now the country to look at for countries thinking about having a similar vote, meaining that depending on how the UK fares now has the potential to become a threat to the Union itself.
- The UK is also now the poster child for every EU sceptic party in Europe, including the French nationalists and the German "AfD". They will celebrate every success the UK will have now and push further against the established parties. This makes the UK now a direct political threat to the current German and French governments. They will try everything to sell the coming negotiations of the trade deal between the UK and the EU as success.
- All economies in the EU will take a blow, the UK by far the hardest.

This will be some fun negotiations. The EU led by Germany and France won´t give the UK an inch in these talks. From where I stand the UK will be lucky to have the same deal Norway has, which includes free movement and single market, so the vast majority of the rules of the EU. UK will follow the same rules they do right now without any influence to make and change them. Well done UK, well done. History being made indeed.

I think that would be true if France, Germany and the other EU member states were as powerful as you make out.

I think people are vastly under estimating the value the UK brings to the union in the grand scheme of things. Countries will do whats in their best interests not spite themselves just for the sake of it.

No one actually KNOWS how this will play out. The rest is just scaremongering.
 
So we could have Trump and Boris as the leaders of the two symbols of democracy? The Chinese must be pissing themselves.

Saying that this is also a failure of the liberal, left who have failed to engage properly with issues that clearly seem to matter.
 
I think that would be true if France, Germany and the other EU member states were as powerful as you make out.

I think people are vastly under estimating the value the UK brings to the union in the grand scheme of things. Countries will do whats in their best interests not spite themselves just for the sake of it.

No one actually KNOWS how this will play out. The rest is just scaremongering.

And that's the issue.:lol:
 
Crazy things is NONE of the politicos or bigwigs wanted this or have any passion to implement a leave strategy. So who will do the work?

Which is why Cameron got the public backing from the Leave campaign. They know his position is untenable and it masks just how cynical Boris' actions have been in the past few weeks when he finally throws his hat into the ring.