They were baying for blood - all of them. All saying that they needed an elite manager…..and that fool Piers Morgan was banging his Arteta out drum constantly saying that he just wasn’t up to it…..
If Pep wasn't there he would be a title winning manager. Or something.
Arteta finished 8th in his first couple of seasons. Klopp didn't qualify for the CL last year. If you hold them to the same standards they would have been sacked already.
You're looking back right now, discounting how terribly rated Arteta was in this forum. None of them had anything close to the circus we've had last 2-3 years (closest possibly was the Auba episode but even that was buried quick)
Arsenal fans are clueless, to be fair.
It's more hilarious watching people pretend that Klopp and Arteta followed the same blueprint.
In truth our DOF model has been: ETH - ETH. "The Fergie" model. It seems like Murtough mostly operated as an administrative "fixer" for Arnold and ETH.
Nah, he was fecking shite before it clicked. 9 times out of 10 a manager performing like he did gets the sack. This weird obsession with drawing parallels to Klopp is odd.
If my grandma had wheels, she would've been a bus
Don't you dare take away Arteta's 2 league titles!
Arteta had all the drama with Ozil, which was substantial.
But we had to sack a manager who had won us two trophies in order to hire Ferguson. Maybe Ten Hags only role in the prophecy is to be sacked to make room for the next Ferguson?
It's not more hilarious, no. Maybe a bit funny. Klopp and Arteta did not follow the same blueprint, agreed. Arteta is an outlier that should not be used for any comparisons really. Although all this seems a bit unfair on him. They did mount a genuine title challenge and took it to the last game. It's not like he finished 10 points behind so we can mock him with the "would be a champion if Pep wasn't there". They even had a better GD.
Yes, I forgot that. However, look at the numbers as well as magnitude at United:
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Good. I'm glad to see there's some sanity remaining in this thread.
But I’m still on vacation?!
This is where I'm at. This summer will be indicative about what INEOS intend and how they are going to go about it, or if they have a plan at all. And the level of freedom to operate they are granted by the Glazers. The manager issue dragging like this isn't exactly a good first impression, but just for now I'm assuming there's some reason for it. Let's hope it's a good reason and not a Southgate reason. There's also some time until the transfer window opens, and the Euro will delay things anyway, so everything is still in the green.
Will it though when big pieces of the structure isn't even in place yet with Berrada only starting middle of July and Ashworth who knows?
I think Arteta was lucky to survive but so what, he is not ETH, and Arsenal are not Utd these comparisons are baseless, and Klopp had more than enough in the bank to survive a bad season, the only thing ETH has is a bag is his balls and they need kicking!
FA Cup win in his first season? Beat City in the Semis and Chelsea in the final. He was only appointed in December 2019, half way through the season.
I'm assuming most of the business will be done after the Euros. Berrada will have plenty of time to act, and I'm sure he isn't staying idle right now either. In the meantime, Blanc and Wilcox will be handling it. Not having Ashworth in his position isn't ideal, of course, but the three of those will surely manage, if they are as good as they are being made out to be. You also have Brailsford in the mix, but to be honest I'm not sure I'm fond of having him involved.
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What Fergie did at Aberdeen was seriously impressive. That alone would mean there would have been strong voices backing him, when you look at what sort of reasoning is used for Ten Hag. Like Fergie said at the time, we were a club that hasn't won the league in 20 odd years, but believed we should win it every year. hence the pressure he faced. Nowadays top 8 is supposedly good enough, nobody thinks we should win the league.
They cant complain. Alot of people wanted him sacked regardless of who we get.
8th, 8th and 5th. Ole even managed a 2nd and 3rd place finish and beat plenty of top teams.
I'm afraid you are mistaken, very mistaken.
Where did Tuchel fall? Was he rockclimbing during his interview?
Damn I'm starting to think that poster was telling the truth about us wanting him to resign. Sounds like we're smoking him out with indecision.
Delaney knows nothing, but picking Southgate is good, in a sense. It will make it clear INEOS are a group of undeniable clowns very early on, so everyone can save their time and energy, and move on to better things.
