Love that Neres quote. Our squad could do with a dose of that. Would love Ten Hag or to see Luis Enrique's view of their fitness levels or what they eat. Neither would tolerate the attitudes of our players.
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If we're going to make a push for this guy we really need to start the vetting process and work with Edwin....it would only help with our recruitment this summer to have a new coach already "in place" before we actually get to the end of the campaign
it's a massive summer with a lot of real quality free transfers plus we need to bring in 3-4 quality additions
it's a massive summer with a lot of real quality free transfers plus we need to bring in 3-4 quality additions
You mean "We should have a plan". Cute
You know we’re getting poch and city are getting him, right?
I refuse to believe it until he’s signing the papers.
I refuse to believe it until he’s signing the papers.
Rather them have Ten Hag than Guardiola.You know we’re getting poch and city are getting him, right?
I refuse to believe it until he’s signing the papers.
Pretty much written in the stars isn't it.You know we’re getting poch and city are getting him, right?
I refuse to believe it until he’s signing the papers.
Poch will last 2 seasons and then Paul Ince will take over.
he is destined to City, City fits too well with him. both in terms of play style and ambition.
we are just a social media club which does not take football too seriously
we are just a social media club which does not take football too seriously
We are a reactive club. Every decision we have taken in the last eight years has been reactive.
Maybe things will change with new personnel in the hierarchy
I was about Poch taking over at United two years ago but i just think we could find a more progressive manager that suits the attacking style of football that United have always played
I would love him at United but wouldn't mind Potter as an alternative if Ten Haag ultimately chooses City over us.
When a manager like Ralf is having issues with the prima donnas, Potter will have the same trouble. You want someone who has the authority to be blunt. Ten Haag looks like that character who the players would not want to cross.
Half the prima donnas will be gone next season and the other half are not good enough to warrant a guaranteed starting spot. It's either the manager's way or the high way. It seems whoever it is in the hotseat next season will be given (largely) free reign to choose his squad.
I'm not sure any prima donnas are more likely to respect Ten Hag than they are Potter.
ETH looks good on many other levels but the leap from Ajax to United is huge.
I dont care if he is a complete failure at United. Atleast , first time in years we are going with a proactive approach who has fresh ideas.
We will have an identity and we just won't sit back against better teams.
Let's go with it. If not him, I will stick with Ralf.
We will have an identity and we just won't sit back against better teams.
Let's go with it. If not him, I will stick with Ralf.
Who exactly? Ronaldo will be gone. Pogba never had any issues with any manager. Anyone else hasn't earned anything to disrespect the manager.
If Ten Hag manages United, I'm a bit worry one thing and that's call managing United's turbulent locker room . For me, I always value a lot about locker room management. It can be decided about how great managers you are. Ten Hag is excellent in term of tactics and use young players but like I've said I'm a bit worry about locker room managing and another one I would say United's scale and Ajax's scale are almost different, he must be adapt for sure. Nonetheless, I think Hag is the best choice for United.
Shooooooooooooot
Wouldn't it be a unique and bit disrespectful to make a serious offer to a manager that is under contract and in the middle of a competitive season?
This is the same reservations i have. No doubt he would be my favourite out of all the candidates available. But at the same time there is so much ego at our club it could hinder him.
If the manager has a release clause, then there's nothing stopping a team from triggering that, but outside of that, I can't recall teams actively chasing a manager who's already in a job and trying to convince them to join their team. More often than not, the teams chase a manager who's not in the job.
United have a good relationship with VDS. I'm sure we've spoken and know if he's available and open. Ajax will be searching for his replacement as well as ETH will most likely be going somewhere.
IIRC he doesn't have an active release clause, it was reported that the clause would start this summer. Anyway, I don't understand the idea behind the tweet that you quoted, it reads like a reporter trying to build a narrative where there isn't one.
I'm sure we have spoken to him but the point was about serious talk which I assume insinuate deeper contacts. When is that a thing in a similar context?
Yeah, it's not supposed to portray some activity on United's side, but it does tell us that United are keeping an eye on ten Hag rather than ignoring him altogether. It's not necessarily a major point, but at least United are interested. Whether that interest spurs some activity is another question altogether.
I think the point of the post makes it appear we're sitting on our thumbs doing nothing which riles up supporters. I doubt anyone knows how serious the talks are except the parties involved. I wouldn't advise anyone to jump off a bridge until City announces him as their new manager when Pep leaves.
Exactly. Maybe I'm being too sensitive here but I don't think that the last part was necessary and I don't think that it was an honest addition.
I'd say it's more in response to the people who'd ask if we're doing any work in bringing him in, which isn't the case. The most activity we had before bringing in Rangnick was when we approached PSG for Pochettino. Since Rangnick's appointment, we haven't gone back to PSG for Poch, for example, so I can see why we'd not do anything to bring ten Hag in at this time.
Mourinho? He was benched by Ole at a point as well.
sadly i have and it's make me depressed which is why i prefaced that by saying what we are using to see United play but i should have added the word traditionally/historically
we got away from that with LVG and Jose, especially Jose, but found it a bit under Ole right after the COVID break....
probably more realistic, but i was joking with Incr as he kept saying he could do a better job than olerooney you mean
Are you telling me that a man who imperiously won 6 out of 6 games in the current CL with a bunch of rag tag cast offs and was 60 seconds away from a CL final while outplaying the likes of Real and Juve in their back yard has the same clout as a manager who is managing a midtable PL club?
No disrespect to Potter, but he has ways to go before being on the same level as Ten Hag. A move up to Spurs. Leicester or Everton might change that though.
But what can you do? We most likely approached him, and got the "I don't want to discuss this till later in the season" reply. And I don't blame him: the man is 100% focused on getting Ajax as far into the CL as he can. He strikes me as a man who is 100% focused on his job. Last thing he needs is to have distracting thoughts about his future. And for now we are forced to wait. I'm fairly certain that once Ajax are out of the CL he will be open for negotiations. I think we will finalize everything by May and I'm about 95% certain he will be our manager.
I still maintain since City are emulating the Barca model, that Enrique is going to be Pep's replacement. He still is their best manager post Pep having won the Treble and all of that. Plus Enrique's contract expires in 2023, same time as Pep. That and also that there are no credible links to Ten Hag to City. Simply too many coincidences.
Plus Ten Hag strikes me as a man who isn't going to wait an extra season in hopes of getting the City job. If a top job were he will be allowed to cement his legacy will become available, he will take it.
I told you to shave those sideburns!
Erik Ten Hag will be Klop#2 as far as we are concerned.
The mistakes our board has committed and will continue to do so is criminal. Even the most idiotic caf poster would get more things correct than them as far as footballing decisions are concerned.
The accountants and bankers haven't got a clue and they're still making footballing decisions, they are not qualified to make these decisions just like the manager isn't qualified in book keeping.
Get rangnick upstairs, give him the keys and sign ETH and give him and rangnick absolute authority over players. Now that would count as a reset and not the bollocks we were served under ole.
The mistakes our board has committed and will continue to do so is criminal. Even the most idiotic caf poster would get more things correct than them as far as footballing decisions are concerned.
The accountants and bankers haven't got a clue and they're still making footballing decisions, they are not qualified to make these decisions just like the manager isn't qualified in book keeping.
Get rangnick upstairs, give him the keys and sign ETH and give him and rangnick absolute authority over players. Now that would count as a reset and not the bollocks we were served under ole.
If he took over straight after Ole then yes, that would be a concern. I suspect the squad will look somewhat different next season and beyond that. Greenwood's gone, Martial's gone and may not return, Lingard and Pogba could likely leave this summer, as would the likes of Henderson and Bailly. Add to that the fact he'll bring in a couple of his own signings and it's very much a different looking United side.
I would hope he doesn't get to do that, his track record with transfers is really bad(players he wanted instead of the ones Overmars bought as the DoF at Ajax).
I wouldn't be surprised if he comes and fails here. Seems to be a normal occurrence that whichever coach or player we get just never comes close to the enormous hype we've put on him
This is what a decade of failure does to us
Ultimately any coach can fail, you dust yourself off and move on to the next one until one clicks - as long as the reason you hired them for a good reason.
I think LvG was hired for good reason.
Mourinho maybe - even if he wasn't a logical follow up style-wise - he did win the title + league cup with Chelsea and had a pedigree of winning.
We had no reason at all to hire Ole but a stint with one of the ex-United players seemed inevitable given the club's culture (e.g., Giggs was almost our next manager after LvG had he done well).
Now the reason is proactive football - not trophies, winning etc. Let's see how that goes.