We all know problems at United run deeper than manager but none of our previous managers proved club was wrong to sack them and do think it won't be different with ten Hag.
Erik ten Hag | Currently unemployed
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I think LVG was the only one that was too swift. You saw what he did with the Netherlands team in the WC and barring the questionable refeerring vs Argentina who knows what would have happened in the finals.
Jose called out the issues, but seeing the issues and being able to fix them are two different things. We've seen his struggles since as his style of management does not work well with the next generation.
It's crazy to think, he's gone now and we have Amorim on the way in....but I am still sat here baffled at EtHs time in-charge of Manchester United.
It's difficult to comprehend the depths of his tactical incompetence. It's bizarre to imagine that a man who seemingly had less coaching ability than your average fat hungover bloke shouting from the sideline in a Sunday League match could ever get a job at a club in the Netherlands, never mind United.
Was he always this staggeringly bad?
Did he succeed in Holland simply because Ajax were far and away the best team?
What was he trying to achieve? Why couldn't he implement the absolute basics, like where we held our defensive line, or what our pressing triggers where?
Why was his in-game management so uniquely crazy? What was with continuously taking off CBs and all of our attacking threats when leading in games?
What instructions was he giving to the players?
Why did he not want to play with a midfield?
Why did he want Dalot making those crazy runs from deep to become our most advanced player?
Why did he select Mazraoui as a #10?
Why did he buy a ball-playing, keeper sweeper and then never utilise him in this way?
Why did he have inverted wingers and inverted full-backs?
I could make a long, long list...I'm not trying to kick the man whilst he's down...but really, his 'coaching' was staggeringly, mind-blowingly bad. As bad as I have ever seen at a professional football club.
It's difficult to comprehend the depths of his tactical incompetence. It's bizarre to imagine that a man who seemingly had less coaching ability than your average fat hungover bloke shouting from the sideline in a Sunday League match could ever get a job at a club in the Netherlands, never mind United.
Was he always this staggeringly bad?
Did he succeed in Holland simply because Ajax were far and away the best team?
What was he trying to achieve? Why couldn't he implement the absolute basics, like where we held our defensive line, or what our pressing triggers where?
Why was his in-game management so uniquely crazy? What was with continuously taking off CBs and all of our attacking threats when leading in games?
What instructions was he giving to the players?
Why did he not want to play with a midfield?
Why did he want Dalot making those crazy runs from deep to become our most advanced player?
Why did he select Mazraoui as a #10?
Why did he buy a ball-playing, keeper sweeper and then never utilise him in this way?
Why did he have inverted wingers and inverted full-backs?
I could make a long, long list...I'm not trying to kick the man whilst he's down...but really, his 'coaching' was staggeringly, mind-blowingly bad. As bad as I have ever seen at a professional football club.
To compress as opposed to stretching the opposition defence.
LvG never managed another club after United. PL was weak in 14/15 and especially 15/16 (with top clubs/sides mostly in transition) yet he only managed 4th and 5th place after all money spent. Well done on the Fa Cup though it was mostly easy route to the trophy. His achievements with Netherlands were impressive but that was tournament football with NT, Southgate was penalty away from winning Euros as well.
Ole has been out of job for 3 years now, Jose went to Spurs, Roma, Fenerbahce. Moyes went to Sociedad, Sunderland and West Ham twice.
We either hired not good enough (Moyes, Ole) or used-to-be WC managers like LvG or Mourinho. Ten Hag was first that was supposed to be modern and progressive coach but ultimately he failed too. Who knows how Amorim's stint will go. Hopefully much better.
One Hag!
Classy as ever. Thank you Eric. Best of luck for your future. Go win things.
Can we bring him back?
Notice how he said “I wish Manchester United fans nothing but success” so not united itself then, from that I take he is furious with the Berrada and Co and probably has ever right to be. Nice message though, thanks Eric, all the best to you
Interesting wording, thanks the fans but not the club for giving him the opportunity.
Regardless, no bitterness needed. He tried his best but ultimately couldn’t deploy his tactics satisfactorily in England. But he’s not the first or last coach that will happen to. Good luck to him
Good night, sweet prince.
I thought I'd celebrate when he's gone, but instead it just made me miserable and pessimistic about the future of the club. To the point I don't care much for the new coach. I wish it ended differently. I was so excited when he came in. A class man.
Yeah I'm the same. Happy he's gone but ETH was the first manager we appointed that I was really excited to get. I've wanted him out for a while but yeah just a sad reality of where we are I think. Hits a little differently when you were so excited at the very start.
I think my excitement for the new manager will come when he arrives though.
Nice statement. Sounds like he noticed the size difference of the club around the world and appreciative of experiencing it.
Classy statement. Wanted him to succeed, but ultimately it didn't work out.
Hope he has success elsewhere, just not at the expense of Utd.
Hope he has success elsewhere, just not at the expense of Utd.
A good man who wanted nothing but the best for the club. He went too drastic in year 2 which ultimately cost him.
only the 4th united manager to bring silverware in 2 successive seasons is something for him to be proud of.
He’ll do very well on the continent and he won’t be out of work for long
only the 4th united manager to bring silverware in 2 successive seasons is something for him to be proud of.
He’ll do very well on the continent and he won’t be out of work for long
This.
Wish him the best. He's a good coach and should land on his feet.
If he's such a good coach, why was he so baffling with his tactics here? What happened?
Damn, he went with the Ranieri ‘my dream has died’ line. Might actually be sadder than when Ole was sacked. 
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I wish him nothing but success in his future, I’m sure he will cross our path and it will be great to see him when we do. I hope he goes for a great club and wins plenty. Thanks for everything, Erik.
:cry:I wish him nothing but success in his future, I’m sure he will cross our path and it will be great to see him when we do. I hope he goes for a great club and wins plenty. Thanks for everything, Erik.
Classy statement. Wish him all the best. There will be opportunities available for him no doubt and hope he succeeds in them.
Such an incompetent manager tactically who still pulled off 2 trophies in two years and somehow still got sacked will always divide opinions. Now that he is gone, i hope he learn from this and go from there. He is so young and having trophies to his name mid to top european clubs will consider him.
Some managers have a set system or philosophy and mould their players into it (Pep) whereas some decide their system around the players they have (Ancelotti). Obviously, this is quite general - most managers fall somewhere in between the two.
I would say Ten Hag leans towards the latter. Similar to Ancelotti, he does well in cup competitions because his tactics are a lot more flexible - Pep would never sit deep in a cup semi like Ten Hag and Ancelotti are more than willing to do.
Managers of his kind tend to do well when either the club already has a philosophy in place or the squad is obviously geared towards a certain way of playing. This is why Ancelotti did well at Madrid, Milan and Chelsea but not at Bayern or Napoli. Similarly, Ten Hag did well at Ajax, where they have a philosophy in place, and here in his first year - where the squad was suited to counter attack football.
He obviously doesn't, however, have the charisma or authority of an Ancelotti. Maybe then, it is best for him to aim for clubs similar to Ajax. Maybe a Benfica or a Lille.
I hope he gets a premier league job so we can smash his team 7-0.
Give it a rest
That's really nice statement and have no complaints about his behavior as our manager. Did start to hate him lately because of excuses and bad results but that's how it went with every manager before him as well.
First season was really promising and 2 trophies were great experience. However, he failed massively in league and Europe over last 15 months and was rightly sacked. He really can't have no complaints with how many bad results we've had.
No doubt we'll see more of ten Hag in European leagues and possibly in PL again as well. Good luck to him.
First season was really promising and 2 trophies were great experience. However, he failed massively in league and Europe over last 15 months and was rightly sacked. He really can't have no complaints with how many bad results we've had.
No doubt we'll see more of ten Hag in European leagues and possibly in PL again as well. Good luck to him.
Thankful for the two cups. He was the manager I was most excited about us getting since SAF retired. He was also the one I wanted to be sacked the most since SAF retired.
I hope he finds another respectable gig and find his footing. He may have been out of his depth but even Mou and LvG struggled with elements of this club. Unlike all the others before him he had no success with multiple major clubs (Mou and LvG), nor was a seasoned PL manager (Moyes), nor was his intensely familiar with the club and a former player sweetheart (Ole). He arguably had the toughest job of them all in that sense.
At the very least I was impressed he didn't get whiney like some of those others and seemed to weather the storm while staring it in the face. That should serve him well elsewhere.
At the very least I was impressed he didn't get whiney like some of those others and seemed to weather the storm while staring it in the face. That should serve him well elsewhere.
I think ragnick would have done well had we made permanent manager but was thrown to the wolves during his interim position, bayern did try to recruit him in summer but said no
I reckon he'll do a great job in Italy.
Always been a class act, he's got his value systems all spot on. A true leader, in that sense.
Shame his ideas just didn't work at United. Wish him nothing but the best as long as he is not playing against us.
I don't get the love for EtH, brought one trophy of note at the expense of our league standing. Looked clueless for the most part and broke all records.
As much as his tactics didn't succeed, there is also the takeover shenanigans, injuries and egos which did not help.
Despite, unlike St Ole, ten Hag winning trophies it never truly felt his reign started. Always an injury, a setback, a strop, an excuse, poor performance.
The manner in which our game management failed was decisive in his obviation.
Some supporters turned on him like sour milk. Would excoriate him for the weather. Of course, it's because we weren't on top, so he had to go regardless. Amorim would be wise to take note of such element of support.
Managing a resourced entity like United is a great inducement, but managing such entitled expectations is rarely worth it. More more more me me me.
I don't believe anyone 'loves' ten Hag, just willing to accept plausible explanations for the rut.
I agree it was high-time to go and accept I wrong to back him after the cup win.
Fair play Ineos for zeroing in on a responsible replacement and getting it done fast. Their administration truly starts here.
In the same boat, sure he demonstrated professionalism but he wasn't fired for anything other than lacking competence to do his job at a level that's acceptable at the size of United.
It's like having a timely and well mannered handyman who's subsequently ineffective for the purpose he / she was hired.
You underplay his successes unfairly.
He won 2 domestic trophies and took us to another final. He bought us CL football in his first season. He’s cleared quite a lot of unloved players from the squad and brought through Garnacho, Kobbie, Amass, Collyer, and bought in quality young players like De Ligt, Ugarte, Zirkzee and Hojlund.
He dealt decisively with the Ronaldo and Sancho fall outs.
There is plenty of good Erik has done for the club, but you don’t want to see it or acknowledge it.
On top of that he is a thoroughly decent man, a football obsessive who always strived for the club, he did his best and always acted with class and dignity. There is no shame in coming up short ultimately and all the hate and negativity toward him is unwarranted and frankly pathetic.
Lovely statement from him. Wish him well.
Question is how patient will everyone be with the new mgr. ETH came in with a great reputation and I have to admit after all his big losses and terrible league positions, united fans did stick with him for a little while. But the time spent wishing he was gone was much longer. So if Amorim falters will there be patience? He’s a very good pickup in my opinion and definitley knows what he’s doing.
If you put the clearing of shite players down to him then you must highlight Antony, Casemiro, Onana, Mount, Amrabat ... This is why I specifically didn't mention transfers.
Being a decent man isn't something to be measured about. It should be the given.
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