The midfield looks poor. VdB barely looks a PL player.
Erik ten Hag | Currently unemployed
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Didn't de Boer also have a much less aggressive playing style than ten Hag?
This bit of news makes the case for his appointment even more stronger. It shows that the club is finally taking some right decisions and trying to get their act together. It clearly shows that the control wasn't always with the club and manager all these years.
Pisstake surely
Was Amadeus sick that day? Poch's successes are as clear as day according to A.
Highly doubt we go for Phillips. He's always injured, not good enough IMO, and would come at a massive cost. I truly hope we see sense and just get Kamara on a free. We need to try for the low risk transfers now and then, and this is a perfect one to try. Saves money to go big on CF and RW as someone like Antony won't be cheap.
Really? I would expect things to get worse before they get better. Surgery is like that.
He’s rarely had games though to be fair… we mis managed him and he got sent on loan to a team fighting relegation….
Was that offer "we aren't run by a bunch of clowns" or perhaps "our players won't throw you under the bus after a week if they don't like you".
There are many good offers RB Leipzig could make.
Whether the players want him or not, they will now have no excuses.
Ten Hag is an exceptional coach who has clearly demonstrated he can coach different and complex build-up patterns from the back and a very effective press.
I'm willing to give all the players a clean slate and see what they can do under Ten Hag.
I think quite a few players will surprise people.
Ten Hag is an exceptional coach who has clearly demonstrated he can coach different and complex build-up patterns from the back and a very effective press.
I'm willing to give all the players a clean slate and see what they can do under Ten Hag.
I think quite a few players will surprise people.
Generally I would agree but honestly they can’t get any worse than what we served up this year it’s physically impossible.
The fee at the time was £65m for Maguire, the board didn't want to finance the deal, then they sign him for £80m a year later.
Jose also had Van Dijk on the list too as a potential signing. I also remember an interview with Fabinho who seemed desperate to come to United, before Liverpool snapped him up.
It's best we take 3 years to cut off the dead wood at the club as Ralf said shrink the squad to approx 20 top players fighting for a starting position to better maintain squad harmony.
We need to try and sell Maguire, anything above 50m bite their fingers off, whenever he is on the ball every United fan is anxious.
God no. Please let's clean house. Obviously not everyone but there are some bad apples that need to go.
you do that and we're in the same shit mess next year that we are in now.....too many spoiled rich footballers who aren't willing to put in the sweat and blood to make this football club successful again. They just give a shit about lining their pockets with money
what player might surprise us????
Oh they can. They really can. We are currently 7th. There are 13 worse places we could be.
I probably wonders why people believe these fairy tales.
You think its nonsense? A lot of decent sources saying that Leipzig's interest is very real.
It’s the hope that kills you
It seems like Pogba will leave with Matic, Cavani, Lingard and Mata.
De Gea, Varane, Bruno, Ronaldo and Sancho are the only players that have really shown anything on the pitch this season and who deserve to stay.
That leaves AWB, Shaw, Maguire, Lindelof, Bailly, Fred, McTominay, Telles, Jones, Martial, Dalot, Rashford and Tuanzabe who all have to prove they are still worthy of playing for United.
I'm not sure which but I will bet a number of them will thrive under Ten Hag's coaching.
Are we forgetting that 2 of the average CBs at the club in Lindelof and Bailly were signed under Jose's watch?
Anyone know much about ten hags current assistant who he wants to bring with him? Alls I know is that he’s meant to be the reason why they don’t concede that much, he apparently creates tight defences.
-Lepizig sacking a coach, who has a significantly higher ppg than Nagelsmann/Rangnick
-Leipzig being able to compete with a bid from United for someone, who isn't an u23 player
-Ten Hag thinking he's ready for one of the biggest challenges in European football, but also being open to a "boring" sideways step to a plastic club
Those are each three separate points of the "I'll believe it when I see it" category. It was getting harder to milk clicks the more certain Ten Hag's signing looked, so someone invented the usual last minute competing offer and the rest just rolled with it.
De we care? Best of luck to him, hope he can turn us round into the force we all know MUFC capable of.
From the players that are here right now, how would a ten Hag xi look, in your opinion?
Who would be in jeopardy and who do you think he'd rather can outright?
Tbf the interest could be real. As real as my interest with Gal Gadot. Whether the party on interest give a feedback to the interested party is another story
Where can I watch this?
Well I'm interested, yeah. And this is the FF.
If you think De Gea or Ronaldo have a prayer of making the preferred starting XI of X Hag, then you don't understand high press.
Pisstake surely
It might not be as far fetched as you think. Assuming the Glazers have the same level of awareness as a casual fan (big if) you would assume PSG on paper would have already won the champions league at the group stage considering their attacking trio. The fact they havent may lead to the confusion about what Poch has done with PSG.
That being said Im sure theres more than a few PSG fans wondering what the hell Pochettino is doing as well.
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I think it's maybe you that doesn't understand.
The high press is for more about tactical intelligence than workrate.
It's about knowing who to press, how to press them (which passing angles to cut off) and when to press.
Ten Hag will prove that next season when several players who have looked shit the last few seasons will miraculously look world class and the dopey pundits will say "they're really trying and working hard for the new manager, why didn't they do this for Rangnick or Solskjaer?" when it's just about the coaching and tactical instructions they've been given.
AWB will struggle under Ten Hag b/c he's shit going forward...Fred and Scott have already shown they are capable players. Martial is a disaster and needs to go as does Jones, Lindelof, Bailly. None of them are worth playing for United.
I’d be surprised if we find a taker for Martial. He’ll be here next season. We have absolutely no reason to sell Lindelof too. He may even become a starter next season.
If we have any takers for McTominay, I’d snap their hands off. Average player at best.
Didn't people say the same about Ronaldo before Rangnick came?
He still remains one of the worst pressers in Europe, and our pressing game didn't improve one bit. Tactics aren't everything, you need compatible players to go along with them.
I keep reading that nonsense. And then I keep seeing it not work every weekend.
Ronaldo and DgD will be gone. It's deluded to think anything else.
To be fair this is the tactical approach we were told to expect from Rangnick and the players have shown that they are either unable or unwilling to do it.
Exactly. If any old clown could do this formation it wouldn't have taken Klopp four years to get Liverpool firing. Some people just believe what they want.
It's pretty clear Rangnick can't coach it in the modern game.
It's all very well saying you want to press but actually making it happen is another thing altogether when all the top coaches train their players every day in all aspects of build up play to beat a press.
Rangnick has failed because his ideas are basic and dated, not because the players are unwilling or unable.
People seem to go off 1 half against Crystal Palace as evidence that he can coach an effective pressing system.
The reality was probably that Palace weren't prepared for it because it was Rangnick's first game and they figured it out second half.
Ten Hag is light years ahead of Rangnick in tactics and coaching and will show that next season when several of our players who've been written off look world class.
How can his ideas be basic and outdated when many of the top modern coaches around right now cite him as one of the main reasons for them playing that way?
You must be watching different players to the rest of us.