Erik ten Hag | Currently unemployed

Delighted that we're making the best possible choice. Up to ten hag, but I'm confident. It'll take time, there will be some growing pains for him I'm sure adapting to the premier league (let's not forget, Pep and Klopp both had growing pains in this league too), but he's a very good coach and ticks so many boxes for what we should want to do and be. I'm not even that worried about "backing", he'll get the financial backing just as the others got. My biggest piss off the past few years has been just pointless contract extensions, and most of them are expiring this year so that's almost sorting itself out.

I think it's the best possible time to come in to United post Sir Alex. Expectations rock bottom. Focus on the board and not the manager. Loads of players in the squad have expiring contracts and signings needed just to fill holes, rather than dealing with a bloated squad. A good chunk of excellent talents to work with as well. A club who always gives managers a good chunk of time. The Greenwood incident (for the most part) over and done with, at least from a shock and how does United plan perspective (I maintain that that incident fecked Rangnicks chances at getting any momentum).
 
TheReligion said:
I think they’ll always be excitement and intrigue with a new coach. But this appointment is very different than the past set and does seem very future focused.

i think most opposition fans would have preferred were brought in Poch
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Yeah I would've preferred that tbf. Would've ended in tears.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Poor bastard. He has no idea what he's letting himself in for. Unless he's given carte blanche to bin anyone he sees fit I fear we'll the same nonsense again from this lot if they get asked to run about too much.
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Well it depends what you mean by this lot? Think there’s a lot of OTT comments being made lately about the squad.

They’ll be plenty of change for sure, given we know who is leaving on a free. They’ll also be a number of signings and possible promotions of young players. Add to that development of what we have.

I don’t get the doom and gloom
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Poor bastard. He has no idea what he's letting himself in for. Unless he's given carte blanche to bin anyone he sees fit I fear we'll the same nonsense again from this lot if they get asked to run about too much.
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Our managers generally do have the opportunity to bin whoever they like so I wouldn’t worry about that. Vangle broke the British transfer record on Di Maria, froze him out for half a season and sold him the next summer. Ole was allowed to bin our 75M striker and spend 80M on a defender who our recruitment team didn’t even rate according the the reports from the previous summer. The only example I can think of was Jose and Martial and that’s because Joel Glazer has some sort of fetish for him.
 
USREDEVIL said:
Great that it looks fully done now save some signings and paperwork. Time to focus on getting rid of a lot of players. The big hurdle is that big bloke in center of defense. Maggy.
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Tifo just posted a video about how United may play under Ten Hag. Not sure if this is just a rework of an older video they did a few month ago



basically everything they talk about we don't do well, if at all.
 
Klopper76 said:
I mean with the positivity around a new manager for whatever the reason is at the time. The expectation at the start of this season was a title challenge.

I do like ETH though and his Ajax side play some lovely football. I think for a lot of you if you were off the pace a bit next season but playing some good football and enjoying watching the side then that'd be enough for now. Seems like you're all fed up with the lack of entertainment and direction on the pitch more than anything.
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There's always optimism with a new manager, but it's very different now. The only previous manager we hired who focused more on the coaching aspect was LvG, who wanted to implement a style of play. He managed to implement it too, it was just horribly boring so nobody really got behind it after 2 seasons of boredom. The rest were mid table level (Moyes), a past it manager who picked fights with everybody (Mourinho), or not even premier league manager (Ole). And let's not forget, we did win trophies under Mou and finished 2nd, and then finished 3rd and 2nd under Ole. You would expect better managers to just do better than worse managers.

Like what would people expect current day Mourinho or Ole to do with Liverpool or City? Its really not a poisoned chalice job IMO. Shit managerial appointments have made it look that way.
 
He needs to be able to play with his 3 new signings and 8 under 23s if need be. If the first team won’t run enough, he needs to be able to drop them - no matter how big a name they are.
 
This is the best signing post SAF, finally some forward thinking from the board. We’re signing the best up and coming coach in Europe. Thankfully we’ve done the right thing this summer and not kept a coach who wasn’t elite, haven’t got a coach on name (Poch). It might seem a gamble, and the best we can hope for in the short term is better football and results, to not get played off the pitch every week regardless of result. In the longer term though I think this guy will be very successful with us.
 
bosnian_red said:
There's always optimism with a new manager, but it's very different now. The only previous manager we hired who focused more on the coaching aspect was LvG, who wanted to implement a style of play. He managed to implement it too, it was just horribly boring so nobody really got behind it after 2 seasons of boredom. The rest were mid table level (Moyes), a past it manager who picked fights with everybody (Mourinho), or not even premier league manager (Ole). And let's not forget, we did win trophies under Mou and finished 2nd, and then finished 3rd and 2nd under Ole. You would expect better managers to just do better than worse managers.

Like what would people expect current day Mourinho or Ole to do with Liverpool or City? Its really not a poisoned chalice job IMO. Shit managerial appointments have made it look that way.
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This team is terribly constructed and fu of horrible players. It's one of the toughest jobs in modern football to try and win anything with these overpaid guys.
 
Now this is a manager you trust to rebuild the team - someone with proven pedigree and track record, not a fecking Championship manager. Feck me, how did United blind so many fans for so long?
 
bosnian_red said:
There's always optimism with a new manager, but it's very different now. The only previous manager we hired who focused more on the coaching aspect was LvG, who wanted to implement a style of play. He managed to implement it too, it was just horribly boring so nobody really got behind it after 2 seasons of boredom. The rest were mid table level (Moyes), a past it manager who picked fights with everybody (Mourinho), or not even premier league manager (Ole). And let's not forget, we did win trophies under Mou and finished 2nd, and then finished 3rd and 2nd under Ole. You would expect better managers to just do better than worse managers.

Like what would people expect current day Mourinho or Ole to do with Liverpool or City? Its really not a poisoned chalice job IMO. Shit managerial appointments have made it look that way.
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Yeah this is all fair. Like I said, if he's given the time and tools/backing then he should do well.
 
Fans need to be patient with him.

It might not happen over night but I have faith he can turn it around and get us playing modern football.

I have no doubts if he’s fully backed and has the support to change what he needs we will be successful again.
 
What a pleasing appointment. Step 1 essentially done, but step 2 is the most crucial part now. We need to back him over these players if they turn on him, and in transfer windows in terms of letting him buy and sell as he pleases. This guy clearly has tactical nous and knows how to build clubs up into winning machines, as he has done with Ajax. We finish 7th or whatever next season, so be it. This man has a plan.

Tactically, I’d expect a possession oriented 4-3-3, which changes to a 2-3-5 in attack. Shaw and Dalot will be vital to him imo.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Poor bastard. He has no idea what he's letting himself in for. Unless he's given carte blanche to bin anyone he sees fit I fear we'll the same nonsense again from this lot if they get asked to run about too much.
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I was thinking the exact same thing....he's walking into a bit of a buzz saw changing room given teh sheer number of players who are going to exit due to expiring contracts and guys that ETH is going to want to move on himself

just how much leverage will he have to sell and buy players? how much will they give him for buying players? The other issue is that he's used to buying a certain player and getting the ajax price where now he will get the Utd price so how will that alter his planning?
 
First time I’ve had my choice of manager when I wanted him. If he doesn’t get it done, then I take it on the chin, but I hope, pray, this is a new era for United and he’s given the power to do things his way all the time.

See if he can drag this grand old club into the light.
 
I think this is the best appointment we can make but there’s no point getting super giddy. He’s only one man, and we’re a big job. It’ll be gradual.
 
bosskeano said:
I was thinking the exact same thing....he's walking into a bit of a buzz saw changing room given teh sheer number of players who are going to exit due to expiring contracts and guys that ETH is going to want to move on himself

just how much leverage will he have to sell and buy players? how much will they give him for buying players? The other issue is that he's used to buying a certain player and getting the ajax price where now he will get the Utd price so how will that alter his planning?
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The players whose contracts are expiring will be gone by the time he comes in. It'll be those with long contracts that he doesn't want that will be the real test.
 
In a way he has a easier job than the previous managers in that some players are out of contract and will be on the Way out.

pogba
Lingard
Mata
Cavani

And there a lot more who will have one year left on their contracts

I dare not say it, but this could be the reset point where we can move into a new era!
 
joedirt87 said:
Tifo just posted a video about how United may play under Ten Hag. Not sure if this is just a rework of an older video they did a few month ago



basically everything they talk about we don't do well, if at all.
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I once took over a restaurant for a friend for 6 months to help him get it up and running.

When asking me to help, he told me there was a great kitchen in it, but when I arrived I found a kitchen that hadn't been touched in 4 years, and hadn't been cleaned before it closed.

There were dead animals inside fridges and ovens, the gas had been disconnected with what looked like an axe and almost every appliance had to be replaced.

The way I felt in that kitchen the first morning, was how I imagine Ten Hag will feel on his first training session watching Wan-Bissaka and mates.
 
Glad he was the choice. While I think Poch’s floor would be higher and likely the safer choice, Ten Hag’s ceiling is higher.
Hopefully he gets the support he needs, which has essentially been the case with all of our past selections.
 
This is a 5 year project at bare minimum. If we do not give him power to overhaul the squad and build it in his image, we are going to go on a Liverpool-esque multiple decade title drought and I completely believe that.
 
slored1 said:
This team is terribly constructed and fu of horrible players. It's one of the toughest jobs in modern football to try and win anything with these overpaid guys.
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No it's not. Its an impossible ask to win things with a manager who is entirely mediocre in a league containing the best managers. Its a tough ask to win things against the best managers with resources too. The only way to actually do it, is to hire a top footballing manager yourself who can develop and coach a style to outplay the opponent's.

Saying the Manchester United job is one of the hardest jobs in football is just over reactive and not looking at any context whatsoever though. What makes it the hardest job? Ole Solskjaer who got Cardiff relegated finished 3rd and 2nd with them along with multiple Cup finals/semi finals. Mourinho after getting sacked for his collapse with Chelsea won 3 trophies in year 1 and then finished 2nd in year 2, and since he was sacked has gone on to be entirely mediocre as a manager. Van Gaal hasn't managed another club side in a decade, but he still got 2 years and coached his style and finished 4th and then won the FA Cup with a team of largely kids in that 2nd year.

None of that screams "hard job". That to me is a list of mediocre/wrong managers who did pretty well relative to their own ability, and then failed when trying to aim for something that they cannot achieve as they just aren't of the required level. Multiple CL finishes, multiple Cup finals, a few trophies since Sir Alex. Every manager getting loads of money and a lot of time to get things their own way. Saying this is a poisoned chalice is basically saying Ole Solskjaer is a manager who is capable of challenging for a title against Klopp and Pep, or Mourinho isn't past it as a manager.
 
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