Today's result was really bad for us as our next 2 games are Spurs and Villa. If we messed up against a lower half team who have had a dreadful start to the season, we could be in real trouble playing two top half teams back to back. It's not unrealistic we end up with 0 wins out of 3.Spurs is a must win.
You misspelled heWe aren’t going to suddenly become great overnight, you will go crazy if you set your bar too high. I have got accustomed to us being horrible so today was quite refreshing as we were good for most of the game (even against opposition as poor as Palace were today and have been so far this year, they are still a team that beat us 4-0 not long ago, and we haven’t scored against them for more than 300 minutes).
Like I’ve said, the only negative to draw from today is we once again managed to kill any momentum we had with substitutions and tactical changes but it’s yet another thing I got so used to that it did not come as a surprise and did not erase the otherwise positive impression our performance has left me with.
Yeah. Coin flip if we’re being honest.Today's result was really bad for us as our next 2 games are Spurs and Villa. If we messed up against a lower half team who have had a dreadful start to the season, we could be in real trouble playing two top half teams back to back. It's not unrealistic we end up with 0 wins out of 3.
But we may still be slight favourites over Spurs given we've home advantage.
Something something ta ra Fergie something something.11th after 5 games is nothing to scoff at, we're still more than capable of going on a good run and equalling last seasons 8th place finish. Give him the rest of the season to finish the job
It's been a long time since we've had a world class striker. I guess Rooney before his legs went.We need a proven scorer and I’m hoping we get someone on loan at some point. He doesn’t have to be young and upcoming …maybe someone in the van Persie mould.
I am not sure where you get your statistics but I dont believe ten Hag is statistically one of our worst performing managers in the PL era.
Jose has the best statistics among Utd managers since Fergie:
Win Percentage: 58.3%
League Positions: 6th, 2nd
Trophies: 2 (Europa League, League Cup)
ten Hag:
Win Percentage: 56.7%
League Positions: 3rd, 8th
Trophies: 2 (League Cup, FA Cup)
van Gaal:
Win Percentage: 52.4%
League Positions: 4th, 5th
Trophies: 1 (FA Cup)
Ole:
Win Percentage: 54.2%
League Positions: 6th, 3rd, 2nd
Trophies: 0
Moyes:
Win Percentage: 52.9%
League Position: 7th
Trophies: 0
I would say I will give him until December to assess his performance. I am not just looking at the results but also at the overall performance and progress. Yes, I expect a top 4 finish this season or 5th place and a Europa League win.
And that point of view is precisely why we are in this situation.What currently available manager would you bring in and be able to confidently say that scenario 1 is more than 20% likely to materialize?
Besides, your putting too much on the manager here. He’s important, but there is development needed at all levels of the club to achieve that goal. Especially in the recruitment and player development areas. I’d say ETH has proven throughout his career that he’s quite capable on the player development front, both at Ajax and here. But there structure around him needs to work as well.
I’m seeing promising signs all across the pitch so far this season. Liverpool game was an ugly blotch, mostly due to atrocious passing attempts from the base of midfield that they ruthlessly exploited. Other than that our performance wasn’t all that bad. Overall I would be inclined to give him this season + 1 more year as long as we’re in the CL spots or very close to it this season.
Why bother lying?Bunch of embarrassing posts in here. Palace had more shots, bigger chances and barely let us have to ball. How on earth did they not win this game? Ten Hag out.
What? We completely dominated the game up until the 60th minute.Bunch of embarrassing posts in here. Palace had more shots, bigger chances and barely let us have to ball. How on earth did they not win this game? Ten Hag out.
Like under a Van gaal? Were you on the forums then? Place was just as toxic as it is now, with the entitled fan base demanding we win everything going AND play beautiful football. LVG got sacked after winning the FA Cup because, presumably, the football wasn’t “The United way” - which is a load of shite in itself.I'd happily take a dog shit 1-0 if the plan was to play dog shit all along. At least that'd mean we are good at executing a clear, albeit boring plan.
Spurs is a must win.
Back to FIFa, kid. Absolutely clueless. And not even true statistically, nevermind to the eye.Bunch of embarrassing posts in here. Palace had more shots, bigger chances and barely let us have to ball. How on earth did they not win this game? Ten Hag out.
The last 30 mins of today’s game took me back to 2016 and LVG. Slow, unimaginative and sideways passes while almost playing for the draw. Ten Hag is on a short leash and results need to improve or he should be rightfully sacked.
Finally, some common sense amongst a sea of stupidity.Showing progress as a team im happy and I think by Christmas we will be fairly well drilled.
Today's result was really bad for us as our next 2 games are Spurs and Villa. If we messed up against a lower half team who have had a dreadful start to the season, we could be in real trouble playing two top half teams back to back. It's not unrealistic we end up with 0 wins out of 3.
But we may still be slight favourites over Spurs given we've home advantage.
No such thing as bogey teams, started off as a joke and now it's become a silly excuse. Palace are 16th and winless this season, the aren't some impressive scalp anymore.I understand the frustration, but we are literally facing one of our bogey teams. We still ended up looking like the better side at their ground, and if not for Henderson, we would've left with all 3 points.
I understand the frustration, but we are literally facing one of our bogey teams. We still ended up looking like the better side at their ground, and if not for Henderson, we would've left with all 3 points.
While I'm far from thrilled, it's not the disaster some of the posters are trying to paint this.
With that being said, ETH needs to work on his subs and get to know his players more. It's clear as day, that Rashford and Hojlund don't work together as they are both more like finishers rather than creators. And for the love of God Erik, drop Bruno already and move Eriksen up the pitch while he is enjoying some good form.
Aside from that, not a bad showing, however could be better.
You mean if they didn’t have GK? Because Henderson was good but didn’t do anything special becuase our finishing was rubbish.I understand the frustration, but we are literally facing one of our bogey teams. We still ended up looking like the better side at their ground, and if not for Henderson, we would've left with all 3 points.
While I'm far from thrilled, it's not the disaster some of the posters are trying to paint this.
With that being said, ETH needs to work on his subs and get to know his players more. It's clear as day, that Rashford and Hojlund don't work together as they are both more like finishers rather than creators. And for the love of God Erik, drop Bruno already and move Eriksen up the pitch while he is enjoying some good form.
Aside from that, not a bad showing, however could be better.
We always had bogey teams. Palace and Birghton amongst others have been hard to beat for quiete a while now Even the greatest of United sides had bogey teams back in the day. Boro, Blackburn, Wolves, Aston Villa and a couple of other I'm forgetting as well.Are they an actual bogey team or have we just not been very good against them under Ten Hag in the past few seasons? Could that possibly be anything to do with Ten Hag or do they just have some mysterious voodoo type hold over our club?
We seem to have developed a lot of bogey teams over the past few years. Weird.
Why bother lying?
Palace had 9 shots to our 15 (4 vs 6 on target)
Our xG was much higher, 1.86 vs 0.99
We had nearly 67% possession.
Literally your entire post is fiction…
What? We completely dominated the game up until the 60th minute.
Sarcasm, gents.Back to FIFa, kid. Absolutely clueless. And not even true statistically, nevermind to the eye.
The embarrassing post is you.
How many more years are you willing to wait? It's been two in case you lost count.First half and part of the second showed all we are waiting to see except goals.
No need to lose one’s shit over this.
Football isn't about bossing games for 90 minutes. Even our greatest sides had trouble with midtable fodder from time to time. Only modern day City can do that which created the warped impression that every team needs to do that. We created plenty of chances and just didn't finish them. On a different day, we score 2 and everyone looks to the positives.You mean if they didn’t have GK? Because Henderson was good but didn’t do anything special becuase our finishing was rubbish.
And while I too want to take positives from this, this is ETHs United. They inspire me with no hope whatsoever because they’ve proven they are experts in figuring out ways to drop points and lose form. That’s why we are the type of team that needed to keep this momentum and I’m not confident this improvement will last becuase you saw in the 2nd half how fragile we are. What great chances did we really create in the 2nd after completely bossing the 1st half?
Anything to bash Ten Hag, eh?No such thing as bogey teams, started off as a joke and now it's become a silly excuse. Palace are 16th and winless this season, the aren't some impressive scalp anymore.
How many more years are you willing to wait? It's been two in case you lost count. result from performance. A win for us by one or two goals was likely: we got unlucky.
Hilarious. Palace lost their best players this summer, clearly aren’t the same team as they were last season — a mid-table team, mind you — and you’re comparing our first 45min to City?One sub wasn't good. Then the doube sub after was the right move. He was criticised heavily for his lineup before a ball was kicked and not one person who called him names or was certain it was going to fail has said "fair play he was right for that lineup".
And we were more than just "good" in that 45. Palace don't really get dominated at Selhurst like that unless it's City. We dipped in the second half and yes Zirkzee was the wrong sub. But it's just terribly underplaying our improvement as a team to claim all we showed today was a "good 45".
- This isn’t about bossing for 90 minutes but about bossing the first 45 minutes and completely losing momentum and ideas on the second 45 minutes when we needed a goal.Football isn't about bossing games for 90 minutes. Even our greatest sides had trouble with midtable fodder from time to time. Only modern day City can do that which created the warped impression that every team needs to do that. We created plenty of chances and just didn't finish them. On a different day, we score 2 and everyone looks to the positives.
We always had bogey teams. Palace and Birghton amongst others have been hard to beat for quiete a while now Even the greatest of United sides had bogey teams back in the day. Boro, Blackburn, Wolves, Aston Villa and a couple of other I'm forgetting as well.
