The Firestarter
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Has the sack been frauded yet?
What losers are doing this?
Some posters genuinely believed we'd had a superb summer window. Probably people who had never even heard of some of the signings or seen them play anytime recently.If only. Was a disastrous summer all round.
Briliant. Let's kick the supposed "top management" guys we've only just brought in!Once he goes the person who made the decision to stick with him during the summer should probably go as well, whoever made that decision has cost the club £200m+ and probably another season of Champions League football
You are late to the party. After Brighton it was clear we are still shit. Despite new players, new coaches, new ownersWe're in a relegation scrap.
Christ alive, the panic button has well and truly been hit, sack him.
I despise Howson. He's as bad as Goldbridge.Stretford Paddock have been very pro ETH. They are slowly admitting he will be sacked. As an aside, I do like their stuff just disagreed with then on ETH for quite some time
When sacked, Solskjaer had 17 points from 12 games.
Ten hag currently has 11 points from 9 games.
So he would need to win 2 of the next 3 just to match Solskjaer’s points when he was sacked.
Fascinating contest between the two worst managers in the league by far.
Briliant. Let's kick the supposed "top management" guys we've only just brought in!
Same every summer, fancy names from other leagues that they've never seen play. Our success was mainly built on buying proven PL quality.Some posters genuinely believed we'd had a superb summer window. Probably people who had never even heard of some of the signings or seen them play anytime recently.
To say any signings are good without them playing a game for us after the last decade is madness.
"Heh."I got little to no faith in INEOS, but even they must understand that this can’t go on. What in gods name are they thinking?
Im not saying i disagree and certainly not advocating for EtH to stay in-post but to play devils advocate; Ineos started the season with a plan which all management likely signed up to, and they are sticking to it. They're not letting fan-emotion or sentiment get in the way of that plan and their approach to running the club.
Again, not saying this is right IF thats how they're looking at it, but it must be what dictating their approach as there's no other reason for not cutting ties at this point.
To say they are 100% to blame for the position we are in i would disagree with though, wholeheartedly. This is 10+ years in the making, our chickens are coming home to roost and i dont believe changing one guy in the dugout will make things materially better personally, and i assume Ineos are looking at it the same way.
Except for Alonso, all of them were attainable last summer.Hoeness, Inzaghi, Alonso and Nagelsman (won't be available until after 2026 though) all fall into that category.
Exactly.Funny because half his posts in this thread are him crying about people picking on him yet here he is trying to fan the flames.
Sky Sports are running with, “Manchester United slipped to defeat against West Ham to increase the pressure on ten Hag.”
What pressure? The man is bulletproof. He has served up some diabolical bullshit already this season and isn’t under the slightest bit of pressure. His departure doesn’t feel imminent in the slightest.
Well you made me laugh on yet another rubbish day.Don't want to be negative or anything and I know it's still only late October but I don't think we're going to win the EPL this season.
I think they have to be. One of them attends the pressers regularly.Stretford Paddock have been very pro ETH. They are slowly admitting he will be sacked. As an aside, I do like their stuff just disagreed with then on ETH for quite some time
Yup. Just like ethl.Quite a few on here last season if I remember correctly. It’s the same with every manager that becomes the flavour of the month.
Maybe that's what the team needs! A pint of wine at half time!I'm not sure Ineos could afford his claret bill
Sure, Real Madrid is surely weaker then Westham. If only we played them today, we will have battered them at the Bernabeu.Barcelona their players are all have a very good technique. Gavi and Pedri were touted as future world class player. Frenkie de Jong is world class when fit and in form. They have one of the best strikers from the last 10 years. Barcelona have some very talented players. Those players are better than what we have. Barcelona their squad is better than us and they play much weaker opponents. I would be more impressed by a new manager taking this squad up the table than i am with Flick taking Barcelona up the table.
Emery and Flick both took over after a player who is considered a legend as a footballer. Most legend footballers are bad managers. To me, Flick is proving just that.
Mourinho was fired after seven wins in the first 17 Premier League games of 2018/2019Can we all agree that if this was pre Ineos he would have been sacked today 100%
So this is on INEOS now.
The results are as poor as we’ve ever seen and the performances are abysmal. However, the worst thing is the total lack of charisma and delusional post match drivel. Starting to hate him.
I mean, it was. We played extremely well for 45 and should have been 3-0 up. We let go of control for the first 20 in that second half, and then reacted. Then we got a penalty conceded that was never a penalty in a million years.
You won’t like this but I actually think he’ll be in charge for another whileHas the sack been frauded yet?
There is a lot, a LOT, of damage and ebbing away of standards over the last decade, but no one has accelerated it like ten Hag. We have good players, we have a new club structure. It is officially their problem now, and every game that goes on is now their mistake.
I think people will be surprised how good some of our players will be under a competent coach. It really does make all the difference.
It’s not. Our xPTS was not 14th, it was 15th. At slightly under 45 points the only teams lower than that were the 3 relegated sides, West Ham and Wolves.
We have probably improved performance wise versus last season to a point where we should probably land at xPTS closer to 50 and I expect this to be our year end tally as well. Basically anything between 45 and 55 seems realistic.
https://understat.com/league/EPL/2023
No i’m wrong. Just checked, we should have had 40 points last season and finished 16th according to the whole expected points/position thing
Pfft we bloody wish, xg had us 15th last season.
This is the thing for me. A lot of people are surprised by this seasons performances, and I can't figure out why. It's turning out exactly how we knew it would, so why have the majority of people who wanted him to stay suddenly become ten Hag out? This is what you wanted more of.Yep 44 points it had us at
https://understat.com/league/EPL/2023
Oh I am certain he will. Best-in-class Deer in best-in-class headlights mode for our management.You won’t like this but I actually think he’ll be in charge for another while