Great, it's nice to see top fans accepting a negative goal difference for one of the biggest clubs in the world.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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More that I worry about the interim options, our best permanent option just got England job
He'll probably sneak a draw against Brentford and then it will be "games against Fenerbache and West Ham will decide his future" rinse and repeat. Fenerbache won't do like Porto, they'll put the boot in because of Mourinho and Dzeko, Tadic, Saint Maximin will play like Suarez Messi and Neymar that day. Then Kudus and Bowen will land the final blows. I hate to say it but I've never been more certain of loosing in my over 20 years supporting United.
He's not really saying that is he though?
Ten Hag probably isn't the man to take us forward but if there's no obvious replacement then that decision becomes less straightforward.
Unless you're giving it to Ruud (who might not actually want the job, even on an interim basis) then the other options are a Rangnick type offer which, as proven in 2022, isn't even a guaranteed short term success. Who else is out there that has the skills to take on the job?
Of course, INEOS might be negotiating to bring a manager from another club which is never easy if you're dealing with other big clubs.
They literally can't do any worse. So it doesn't matter anyway. If whoever comes in as interim (hopefully) was to take the games up to Christmas I'd bet they'd get more points than this pillock.
We need to stop the rot ASAP. The sooner we get rid the sooner we can start recovering and planning for the Jan transfer window because there's no way 1 Hag should be anywhere near it.
Wouldn’t pin too much on this, there’s not much to plan for. Has been really quiet last few years.
We’ll be watching the PSR breadline until June and barely any other clubs are active in the market.
If Ten Hag is still here we will be doing the square root of feck all in January I expect, even if he's gone I'd be surprised to see us do much business at all.
We shouldn't be looking for a permanent manager in October, just an Interim to get us through the season.
Yup. If someone more long term is available then fair enough but for now just get Potter and Roy in. (Sounds like a Vegas double act)
Don't know why exactly but I was impressed with the interview Frank did yesterday. Did anyone else see it?
Yup. If someone more long term is available then fair enough but for now just get Potter and Roy in. (Sounds like a Vegas double act)
Potter as an interim seems a very obvious choice doesn't it. Lots of fake concerns about an interim going around but it's madness considering we can't really get any worse.
The only forgiveable route for the club is if nobody wants the job as interim but it's a stretch. Maybe that's moses super secret schrödingers data.
My main concern is everything sort of points to the club having no idea what to do at this stage. I'm not confident we have a permanent manager lined up or viable interims ready. Are we really just hoping to get through the season with Ten Hag no matter what happens.
Injuries abound once again, there is his excuse sorted for the next month and he will keep his job. Brilliant.
I jest, but I do find it incredible he's still in a job. Mental for me. Also, injuries follow him around like a bad smell and are curious.
I jest, but I do find it incredible he's still in a job. Mental for me. Also, injuries follow him around like a bad smell and are curious.
He's always going to be one game away from the sack, with his "job on the line".
No way to manage a football club, completely unsustainable.
No way to manage a football club, completely unsustainable.
Yes I heard it. I wouldn’t mind giving him a go. Try him on 18 month contract with a plus 1 year if any good gives them time to renew
It was a very frank interview.
I really thought United would sack him during the internationals (but they sacked Alex Ferguson instead). I can not see, how this is going to end well anymore. ETH can not change this team into something good, and I do not trust INEOS after the Fergie thing.
Forgive my black outlook, but I have never been so pessimistic about United until now.
Forgive my black outlook, but I have never been so pessimistic about United until now.
Also, the irony of a forumite offering advice on how to be successful in the the world of capitalism to a billionaire petrochemical tycoon...
We’ll soon see on Saturday whether he still has the backing of the players. I’m sure many of them expected him to be sacked in the international break and they’ll smell blood now if they want him out.
We have spend hundreds of millions in his time here, but I can´t see any improvement in the team. The last good transfer was Bruno. He should not be given more time, because it´s obvious that he makes players worse, other managers like Pep, Klopp and others make their players better. The man has no no aura, no charisma. By now, anyone can see that he is simply not good enough for a club of our size. It´s depressing, everyone knows this and still he continues to talk about him winning trophies. I can´t stand to watch him anymore.
Yeah I'm scunnered watching United. We are so boring. Agree on the coaching too, I've thought it for ages.
I mean its something that is happening for longer than Ten Hag though, spending millions but not being transmitted to the pitch.
I mean its no surprise... I read a quote that Pogba wanted to leave in 2019 and we forced him to stay.... so its not just the manager, the board need to ensure every player wants to play for Manutd firstly, then you can build and coach.
With respects to EtH, I must admit, I liked listening to him about 22 months ago, talking about good isn't good enough and I thought yes, he will raise standards, instead he has been the opposite and floored them. Now its actually annoying listening to him because its just excuses and "i will win trophies" in every presser, like mate stfu and talk about how poor we are.
Trophies is good but league position and style of play is the bread and butter, we play the worst football in the top 2 divisions of English football.
I want us to win on the weekend but won't lie if we draw or lose or get trashed I won't help but think that it's hilarious
Its just an absolute mess. How us as fans on a forum have to suggest this is just mind boggling.
Like how is this being allowed to happen.
Id say Ineos wants to replace him but they are trying to find the best way for optics.
Ten Hag seems like a top fella but things just aren't working for whatever reason. Its been 18 months of utter dross on the pitch. Its not good enough.
He doesn't seem that way at all to me. I find him very hard to like.
Results certainly won't improve immediately however, I do expect steps to be taken demonstrating a clear strategy which is not the same that the Glazers used.
I haven't seen that.
Under Glazers we were reacting to everything. We were not proactive and generally had no planning. I see the same happening, right now, under INEOS.
I don't think anything will change.
Super arrogant, condescending, thinks extremely highly of himself, cannot admit his fault pretty much ever. I really don't know where the 'top bloke' vibe is coming from as I've seen it repeated many times over here. He's like the opposite of that.
Then again I remember how everyone admired him for asking players to run 14km after Brentford game because 'that fecking shows them'. Maybe it's the harsh disciplinarian vibe that people dig.
I'm sorry for you. Heh.
When assessing people’s character, especially having not had a personal conversation with them, some of us prefer to look for positive characteristics than negative ones. I guess it depends on personal outlook - for me it’s a conscious choice based on personal and professional development.
You could also, quite fairly, call me naive or gullible to be like this. That’s fine, but I find my approach a lot less stressful and balanced.
You could also be spot on about Erik, he could be all the things you state!
My deepest condolences to the players.
They would have expected to come back from the international break with a spring in their step, believing they’ll be coming back to a manager with fresh, exciting new ideas who’s tactics don’t hang them out to dry on a weekly basis.
Instead they come back and this fecking gaslighting narcissistic turnip is still in charge.
Depressing for all involved.
They would have expected to come back from the international break with a spring in their step, believing they’ll be coming back to a manager with fresh, exciting new ideas who’s tactics don’t hang them out to dry on a weekly basis.
Instead they come back and this fecking gaslighting narcissistic turnip is still in charge.
Depressing for all involved.
So basically, unless you know these people personally and have spoken with them face to face, you can either be positive about them or have no opinion.
I swear literally nobody works like that.
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The sad truth is, if he was managing Chelsea, Arsenal or Liverpool like this we would be laughing at how unambitious they are for keeping the guy and how they are doomed to mediocrity.
It didn't make sense to keep him this summer, and it certainly doesn't make sense to keep him now.
Definitely. None of the others have ever kept a manager for so long under such dire circumstances. It's 2-3 months of dross and curtains roll at pretty much every serious club.
How is it 'back' is creeping up? Whats happened to make folks change their mind?
Why did he play Mainoo against Villa after he’d come off in the previous match with a hamstring complaint?
This seems to be a common thing for him with players. Then he moans about his bad luck..
This seems to be a common thing for him with players. Then he moans about his bad luck..
The vast majority of people on this forum understand this.
The issue is that INEOS don't seem to get this. And it is quite astounding.
Right now, everybody (players and manager) is in limbo, not knowing what is going to happen. This is a terrible way to run a club.
On the contrary, not judging people's personality on how they appear in interviews and press conferences seems like a totally normal thing to me.
Been a few weeks since we lost a game
Two wrongs don't make a right in cases like this unfortunately. Keeping him at the wheel after you have lost faith in him is even more amateurish. Keeping him for 10-15 more games would do a lot more damage than looking like amateurs.
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