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Shameless Musketeer
This is really stupid. We clearly are still shit and waiting makes zero sense. You truly wonder why that is, but it is weak
Nah, just calling hysterical people hysterical.This is the new approach you seem to have. Label anyone who's rightfully pissed off with the manager situation into someone acting hysterical.
Yes, yes. You were right. Well done. Can we please move the feck on from all of these "I told you so, look how clever I was" posts from the usual suspects, please?I am a bit confused here but wasn't eth the man most of you wanted this season following the FA cup win? What changed? He showed us last season that he was shit in the league and in Europe after all. Don't worry though. He will probably win a domestic cup
So you’re just guessing then!
I think he was 8points off top 4 and 7 points off a relegation place (Leeds being 17th).
Don't we all at this point?Everyones favourite journalist Sam Luckhurst is saying that Ten Hag expects to be in charge next week
Ten Hag shouldn't be compared with Ole any more. Clearly Ole was levels above.I wasn't 100% sure but I managed to find a site that allows you to view the table on a certain date. United on the 21st November 2021, the day after the 4-1 Watford defeat. Were in 7th place with 17 points. 6 points off 4th and 8 points off the relegation zone.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-table...Aug-13/todate:2021-Nov-21/type:home-and-away/
He's got something that looks like a goatee but he trains it to be a full on beard. He also tells people in post match interviews that he's clean shaven.Without looking on Google images, does Ten Hag have a beard, a goatee or is he cleanly shaved?
I wasn't going out of my way. I was on this thread and asked a question after seeing multiple posts complain about the poll. That's not really patrolling.Again, do you only speak on stuff that bother you? When you go out of your way to ask people why they're commenting, contextually, and on-topic, on one of the anchors of a thread, then yes, you're patrolling.
You brought up "maturity", not me. This was an exercise you engaged in - I don't have a benchmark to hit nor expectations for you in that regards. I simply retorted that there's a disconnect in your behaviour and what you expect from others.
https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/premier-league/22-november-2021/I wasn't 100% sure but I managed to find a site that allows you to view the table on a certain date. United on the 21st November 2021, the day after the 4-1 Watford defeat. Were in 7th place with 17 points. 6 points off 4th and 8 points off the relegation zone.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-table...Aug-13/todate:2021-Nov-21/type:home-and-away/
We were 8th back then. We're now 14th. It seems like a big difference to me.https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/premier-league/22-november-2021/
According to this we were on 17pts when he was sacked and 6 points off Leeds in relegation. We were also 6 points off West Ham in 4th. So bang in the middle really. If It helps I corroborated this with Chat gpt as well
Anyway, I think being in that position by mid-november is more than sackable. It's basically the same sort of position Ten Hag finds himself in now but after 12 games into the PL Campaign, instead of 7.
https://www.11v11.com/league-tables/premier-league/22-november-2021/
According to this we were on 17pts when he was sacked and 6 points off Leeds in relegation. We were also 6 points off West Ham in 4th. So bang in the middle really. If It helps I corroborated this with Chat gpt as well
Anyway, I think being in that position by mid-november is more than sackable. It's basically the same sort of position Ten Hag finds himself in now but after 12 games into the PL Campaign, instead of 7.
I wasn't going out of my way. I was on this thread and asked a question after seeing multiple posts complain about the poll. That's not really patrolling.
I dont know why you got so offended by the question. It wasn't flippant, you seem quite sensitive.
Big news about Tuchel if true. Erik will be popping the champagne tonight.
You mean that there’s talks about the England job?Big news about Tuchel if true. Erik will be popping the champagne tonight.
Big news about Tuchel if true. Erik will be popping the champagne tonight.
You mean that there’s talks about the England job?
While this is obvious think about how stupid it is to continue to with thought process.
We all know he will be sacked eventually (End of the season at the latest) No better time than now, why willingly throw the season away.but also this should be easy enough because I'm the ETH era a draw counts as a good result
Why would he? Tuchel turned down the Utd job 3 months ago ?Big news about Tuchel if true. Erik will be popping the champagne tonight.
Not people, just an inocious post to you after reading complaints by many. It wasn't targeted I was genuinely curious after reading another complaint about the polls, so I thought I'd ask.You keep projecting feelings on to me - really weird way of conversing. I've not been rude or anything, not called you out of your name or anything adjacent, just answered your questions and pointed out what reads as a disconnect to me.
You're in a poll with a thread asking people why they're commenting on the movement of said poll and why are they bothered by it - already a peculiar, and flawed take. Then you start talking about maturity, and now, for replying to you, I'm offended and sensitive. Brother, what is this?
Yes thanks for correcting.Same table mate, but Leeds aren't in the relegation zone. They were sitting in 17th, we were 8 points above Burnley in 18th.
We were averaging 1.4 points per game up until the sacking. This season we've averaged 1.1 per game and would have to win 3 of our next 5 games just to match the points total that finished Ole's United career. Even 3 wins and a draw would have everyone thinking we've turned a corner but it would only be 1 point better off than when Ole was sacked.
Brentford Home
West Ham Away
Chelsea Home
Leicester Home
Ipswich Away
So it's doable but I wouldn't bet on it in our current form if I was being honest.
Every day of silence? He isn’t leaving. There was only going to be an announcement if they fired him. It’s evident he is staying for now.Grumpy doesn’t begin to cover the mood this thread is awash with.
Breeding contempt and morale really dipping, and it’s not just online… it’s going to get worse.
I just cannot believe this is part of some grand design.
International break normally calms things down, but every day of silence is actually building tension and animosity.
If he’s here by Brentford, it’s going to be a pressure cooker environment.
Grumpy doesn’t begin to cover the mood this thread is awash with.
Yup. The environment is already fecking toxic. The way people are turning on each other. It’s just sad. Probably the worst period in our history since before World War II.Grumpy doesn’t begin to cover the mood this thread is awash with.
Breeding contempt and morale really dipping, and it’s not just online… it’s going to get worse.
I just cannot believe this is part of some grand design.
International break normally calms things down, but every day of silence is actually building tension and animosity.
If he’s here by Brentford, it’s going to be a pressure cooker environment.
Yes thanks for correcting.
So my point still stands in that, Ole was sacked having got 14 games and being in the same sort of position as Ten Hag is now.
Ten Hag is on the chopping block right now after 7 games and that's likely due to the goodwill being stronger on Ole coming back off a season finishing 2nd, as @Mr Pigeon pointed out.
I wouldn't really complain much if the manager was sacked now and no one can complain when Ole was sacked. If Ten Hag got 11 pts from the next 15, he wouldn't be sacked then either.
This is absolutely not the worst period in the clubs history since WW2Yup. The environment is already fecking toxic. The way people are turning on each other. It’s just sad. Probably the worst period in our history since before World War II.
He better get on with the program because, when Ten Hag shits the bed again, Ashworth's head is going to be on the chopping block alongside ETH's.I read somewhere that Dan Ashworth has only ever sacked a coach 2 times in 11 years as a technical director. No idea if that's true or not as it seems ridiculously low. But if so, he seems more on the side of stability than ambition.
Why would he? Tuchel turned down the Utd job 3 months ago ?
This is absolutely not the worst period in the clubs history since WW2
It’s not really clear what is happening behind the scenes, which is why the speculation is rife and the fantasy scenarios are taking on a life of their own.Every day of silence? He isn’t leaving. There was only going to be an announcement if they fired him. It’s evident he is staying for now.
A better coach would have more ideas for attack and would no doubt get more out of the players at his disposal. This is not just the players it’s also about how ETH envisages them playingAye, the midfield is an issue, but nowhere near as bad as last season. Still not perfect, but improving. Low hanging fruit and such. Still.
The attack, however, has become progressively worse. As you state, we create chances and subsequently waste them. The whole point of the game is to win and we cannot do so without goals.
We can blame the midfield, coach, stars, injuries, the moon, you, me, everything in between and the rest of Miranda July's impressive oeuvre, but our attack is whack and you know it.
No point sacking Bald to appoint another manager who can't make Razzmatazz prolific, or Zirkzee another expensive Ineos chemical spill.
Unfortunately I don't see it getting any better until either a) results & performances drastically improve under ETH or b) He is finally sacked. Based on the past 18 months or so, a is looking increasingly unlikely. It's hard to remain calm considering how bad we've been for so long.Grumpy doesn’t begin to cover the mood this thread is awash with.
Breeding contempt and morale really dipping, and it’s not just online… it’s going to get worse.
I just cannot believe this is part of some grand design.
International break normally calms things down, but every day of silence is actually building tension and animosity.
If he’s here by Brentford, it’s going to be a pressure cooker environment.