Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked

[Woodzy]

I don’t think he’s getting sacked. If he was there would be news coming out. Every journalist is just guessing.

Well, until the meeting is done absolutely nobody outside of that room is going to know.

 

[padzilla]

There's no way he's getting the boot two months in a new season after they publicly backed him and renewed his contract in the summer. It will be a results need to improve but we believe we have the right team in place to achieve them, or words to that effect.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Sorry, but I got inside information. As long as the poll in this thread isn't at least 95% in favor of sack then Ten Hag will keep his job.

Prepare the bot army!

 

[Fallon d'Floor]

Maybe our insider Treblechamp can shed some light on the situation.

Hopefully that friend of his suffers a horrible life. If he even existed.

INEOS did seem to settle on keeping him when other avenues didn't pan out. Had to go crawling back.

 

[Berbaclass]

There's no way he's getting the boot two months in a new season after they publicly backed him and renewed his contract in the summer. It will be a results need to improve but we believe we have the right team in place to achieve them, or words to that effect.

Wasn't a renewal, they simply triggered an extension in his existing deal.

 

[Amir]

Big day today. Basically a public announcement of weather the club cares about football performance under the new ownership.

Under the Glazers they admitted they didn't.

If we keep ETH that's Ineos admitting they don't either. So it's a big fecking day all things considered

They might make the wrong decision, but it won't be because they don't care about performances. The likes of Ashworth and Berrada didn't join to lead a football shit show. It's their reputation on the line as well.

 

[Semper Fudge]

Hopefully that friend of his suffers a horrible life. If he even existed.

INEOS did seem to settle on keeping him when other avenues didn't pan out. Had to go crawling back.

Lovely.

 

[TheGodsInRed]

Who would be that right manager for you?

Anyone but Southgate haha.

Depends who we can get as the best ones are in work. Alonso might not be gettable. Frank would be a good choice, but big step up from Brentford. I'm not sure Tucel would work under our new structure, he would want full control.

 

[Sarni]

Plot twist, Ashworth and Wilcox to be fired for failing to support Erik.

 

[pocco]

If there was a chance he could go today then the bigger journos would know and would make a big deal out of it. I think the small journos are just looking for something to make a story out of here. If it was a genuine review then I think he'd be gone, because it'd look stupid to stick with him again. But I don't think they're even bothered about Ten Hag really. The tidbits about concerns over CL etc is just shit they're putting out to satisfy us lot that aren't happy.

 

[Fallon d'Floor]

There's no way he's getting the boot two months in a new season after they publicly backed him and renewed his contract in the summer. It will be a results need to improve but we believe we have the right team in place to achieve them, or words to that effect.

Exercised a 1 year option. Not really a new contract.

 

[Fallon d'Floor]

Lovely.

You can't talk that much shit and come away unscathed. Nothing worse than ITK who isn't ITK.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

I bet we get nothing. There wasn't really a grand announcement when he stayed on during the summer so I'm not sure why, unless he's getting the sack, the club would even bother to confirm that he's staying.

I just don't understand it. Anyone can see that we're going nowhere. It's not kneejerk at this point to even say that, we've been showing relegation form for 18 months ffs, and it wasn't like we were world beaters with a clear philosophy under Ten Hag in the first season either.

 

[OverratedOpinion]

If there was a chance he could go today then the bigger journos would know and would make a big deal out of it. I think the small journos are just looking for something to make a story out of here. If it was a genuine review then I think he'd be gone, because it'd look stupid to stick with him again. But I don't think they're even bothered about Ten Hag really. The tidbits about concerns over CL etc is just shit they're putting out to satisfy us lot that aren't happy.

The biggest sports media company in the country and a bloody terrestrial news channel both have cameras outside the meeting. I think it's fair to say journos are making a big deal of it.

 

[TheGodsInRed]

Sure. I agree.

It's just that keeping someone as an interim risks the Ole situation from happening all over again.

Biggest issue with Ole was giving him the job after those 10 wins. If we stuck to our guns and reviewed it at the end of the season I don't think we would have kept him as we dropped off at the end of the season.

If Ruud gets a appointed as interim till the end of the season, we need to be very clear and stick to that.

 

[Redivy]

If there was a chance he could go today then the bigger journos would know and would make a big deal out of it. I think the small journos are just looking for something to make a story out of here. If it was a genuine review then I think he'd be gone, because it'd look stupid to stick with him again. But I don't think they're even bothered about Ten Hag really. The tidbits about concerns over CL etc is just shit they're putting out to satisfy us lot that aren't happy.

My thoughts exactly, the journos would’ve been briefed. There’s no way someone like Ornstein wouldn’t have reported earlier today that ETH is on the verge of being sacked.

 

[Sanchez7]

Yeah, he is staying. Journalists would know if he was getting fired. Even if Ineos can keep a lid on it, usually agents of potential replacments would have leaked the news.

 

[IrishRedDevil]

He lives to stink another day (3 months).

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Long term project, young squad, lots of injuries, patience etc

 

[Sarni]

Exercised a 1 year option. Not really a new contract.

A year before his existing contract was due to expire. That was a vote of confidence.

I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even think about firing him at all. He's got them all under his spell.

 

[Berbaclass]

Guys. Nothing is indicating him staying or going. Just be patient.

 

[Revan]

Exercised a 1 year option. Not really a new contract.

It is another 9m spent on him, so kinda a new contract. Which was totally idiotic to do, much better managers than him entered the season in their final year of contract.

By the way, by all reports, we activated the clause only after he rejected a contract extension. Which shows that our new management is somehow even more stupid than the previous one, which is an achievement in itself.

 

[RDCR07]

Guys. Nothing is indicating him staying or going. Just be patient.

Wrong place to call for patience.

 

[Berbaclass]

Wrong place to call for patience.

Well I am.

 

[Fallon d'Floor]

Biggest issue with Ole was giving him the job after those 10 wins. If we stuck to our guns and reviewed it at the end of the season I don't think we would have kept him as we dropped off at the end of the season.

If Ruud gets a appointed as interim till the end of the season, we need to be very clear and stick to that.

Absolutely. We went to shit after beating PSG away. Ole had a brutal 11 months of form until Bruno was signed and lockdown happened.

ten Hag has somehow managed to get away 19 months of terrible form.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

I really want to see what's in the "PROS" column on the whiteboard chart...

 

[LawCharltonBest]

When do we think someone reliable will tell us that either he’s definitely staying or he definitely isn’t?

I keep checking for news today but I doubt we’d find out so immediately after the meeting

 

[UnitedWA]

Such an incompetence in a ruthless billionaire world is really weird and unexplainable to me.

 

[pocco]

The biggest sports media company in the country and a bloody terrestrial news channel both have cameras outside the meeting. I think it's fair to say journos are making a big deal of it.

They've both already said he's staying though. They're just being tits because there's nothing else to report on.

 

[Plant0x84]

Is anyone else annoyed he's gone on holiday?

His job is probably safe, yet the performances have been utterly abject, so why isn't he working with the coaching staff, and players (many not going as we've been so bad) on trying to improve things?

Maybe time off at this point to recharge after a hectic start IS the best way to improve?

 

[LawCharltonBest]

I really want to see what's in the "PROS" column on the whiteboard chart...

“Southgate keeps coming to reception with his CV and this will escalate if we sack Erik”

 

[Adz_99]

Such an incompetence in a ruthless billionaire world is really weird and unexplainable to me.

Agreed. And Ratcliffe is a real self made billionaire too. Not like Malcolms kids who just inherited it.

 

[gaffs]

There's no way he's getting the boot two months in a new season after they publicly backed him and renewed his contract in the summer. It will be a results need to improve but we believe we have the right team in place to achieve them, or words to that effect.

There is every way.

 

[IrishRedDevil]

Maybe time off at this point to recharge after a hectic start IS the best way to improve?

Wrong and the same tripe that has been spun for the last 10 years of failure.

Him laying on a beach on holidays WILL NOT make us a better team. That only happens with hard work on the training pitch and in the tactical room.

 

[Fallon d'Floor]

A year before his existing contract was due to expire. That was a vote of confidence.

I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even think about firing him at all. He's got them all under his spell.

A vote of confidence would have been a new 3 year deal. Like Iraola and O'Neil signings new deals last season after a season in charge.

I don't think he has. I just think they're indecisive and not guaranteed to do a good job. INEOS don't have a good track record in football.

He certainly managed to put more than a few United fans under his spell last season though.

 

[OverratedOpinion]

They've both already said he's staying though. They're just being tits because there's nothing else to report on.

There is nothing else for ITV to report on?

What is being suggested is that one of the things discussed in this meeting is whether we keep the man or not. It stands to reason that nothing has been briefed before the meeting has even finished.

I don't think he will go but nothing about journalists reporting right now indicates anything about a discussion that is currently taking place.

 

[Berbaclass]

If they do decide to hang fire I'd love to know exactly what they base that decision on. All the metrics are shit and we are on a downward trajectory. To just assume it will be okay it time is colossally stupid and incredibly naive.

 

[spwd]

Voice of reason.

Has he been on a bender coming out with that shit?

 

[baskinginthesun]

What a thread. People claiming the new structure is toothless, clueless and worse because they won't sack EtH today (at a regularly scheduled meeting) or that Ruud would be a good interim (wait what? A United legend, he did well for a little while in Holland? And came here to improve our strikers... oh right), or that fans are giving up on the club? Give up then if that's how you back the team Having supported United through relegation (and would again) not to mention some pretty dire seasons over the last 50 years, I'm amazed people think firing ten Hag a few games after giving him their backing following a review would seem anything other than clueless and reactionary. I don't want a reaction from SJR and co based on media mayhem and fan outrage, I want rational decisions based on a long-term plan. We are continually reminded that they have one. Maybe we'd all like to be personally informed what that is but it doesn't work like this. By all means be open to change, but do so with a clear eye on the right coach and the right coach after that if necessary given our new set up, not on who's there now or who's available. Yes we're in trough and I am as ftrustated as everyone else at the way we're playing and how EtH seems unable to explain what he's doing, but I think sacking now and appointing Tuchel when he apparently was not the best fit in June, or worse, Southgate or Ruud, would not suggest the plan has much thought put into it.

Berrada, the CEO wants to win the league by 2028. That's the long term plan. We're miles off that. ETH isn't winning the league with us. He should be gone.

 

[OverratedOpinion]

What a thread. People claiming the new structure is toothless, clueless and worse because they won't sack EtH today (at a regularly scheduled meeting) or that Ruud would be a good interim (wait what? A United legend, he did well for a little while in Holland? And came here to improve our strikers... oh right), or that fans are giving up on the club? Give up then if that's how you back the team Having supported United through relegation (and would again) not to mention some pretty dire seasons over the last 50 years, I'm amazed people think firing ten Hag a few games after giving him their backing following a review would seem anything other than clueless and reactionary. I don't want a reaction from SJR and co based on media mayhem and fan outrage, I want rational decisions based on a long-term plan. We are continually reminded that they have one. Maybe we'd all like to be personally informed what that is but it doesn't work like this. By all means be open to change, but do so with a clear eye on the right coach and the right coach after that if necessary given our new set up, not on who's there now or who's available. Yes we're in trough and I am as ftrustated as everyone else at the way we're playing and how EtH seems unable to explain what he's doing, but I think sacking now and appointing Tuchel when he apparently was not the best fit in June, or worse, Southgate or Ruud, would not suggest the plan has much thought put into it.

Paragraphs should be part of the plan.