Robbie Boy
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Nobody could do better than him.
Sarni speaks the truth!
Nobody could do better than him.
Just had a look back at the results and mad to think we beat Atalanta and Spurs either side of Liverpool.5-0 at home to Liverpool. For me that was worse than the 7-0 away. Underlying XG was worse if I'm not mistaken, plus it was on our own turf.
Mid November vs Watford there was a 4-1 too, and we were 4pts off 16th place at that point. I think this was when he was finally sacked.
He is right, our season 2018/19 fell apart after the Paris game where we had 2 win 2 draws and 6 loss in 10 games.. we didnt win the last 5 leaugue games.. and there were also these periods and talk about him being fired during the next 2 seasons.. But also during those 2 seasons there we very good periodes.. But you are right it first became ETH shit in 2021Promoted to permanent manager in March 2019. Started going to shit in September 2021. You're just conveniently going to ignore the 2.5 years inbetween where it absolutely wasn't "shit"?
If Tuchel was to come in and not get us in the top 4 in the next couple of seasons, would that make him a bad manager?
No. Our squad is probably just about good enough to compete for top 4, so are 4-5 other squads in the league other than City, Arsenal and Liverpool, all of whom are virtually certain to be top 3.If Tuchel was to come in and not get us in the top 4 in the next couple of seasons, would that make him a bad manager?
Is it routine?
If the largest and second largest shareholders typically don't attend a specific meeting and then suddenly do is that not a significant deviation from the routine? Especially for a business that is very publicly experiencing some turbulence.
It depends. If we've played good football throughout the season but City,Liverpool, Arsenal and one of the others have all had strong seasons, what can you do.If Tuchel was to come in and not get us in the top 4 in the next couple of seasons, would that make him a bad manager?
I think a good manager gets more out of the players though.No. Our squad is probably just about good enough to compete for top 4, so are 4-5 other squads in the league other than City, Arsenal and Liverpool, all of whom are virtually certain to be top 3.
The problem is ten Hag probably won’t even have us in top 10.
Watch them score in the 1st minute againFans will need to come together at Brentford game and show Erik that we all stand by him.
Of course. But that ‘more’ could still end up being short of top 4.I think a good manager gets more out of the players though.
And the whole Old Trafford firmly behind Erik when that happens, is what we must see.Watch them score in the 1st minute again
Maybe I'm biased but I believe that we have a squad that is top 5 already.Of course. But that ‘more’ could still end up being short of top 4.
Behind him pushing him out the stadium?And the whole Old Trafford firmly behind Erik when that happens, is what we must see.
5-0 at home to Liverpool. For me that was worse than the 7-0 away. Underlying XG was worse if I'm not mistaken, plus it was on our own turf.
Mid November vs Watford there was a 4-1 too, and we were 4pts off 16th place at that point. I think this was when he was finally sacked.
I find that idea pretty unusual. Imagine being captain of the Titanic and finding out you're going to hit an iceberg well in advance and you just plough on anyway becasue reasons.Consensus (from what I've seen online) seems to be that we're extremely unlikely to sack and will stick with the 'process' focussing on bringing in a new forward (again) in Jan.
I honestly can't imagine how we could possibly be so incompetent, but for some reason I also can't see any other outcome here. It'll be a(nother) complete nightmare season if we give him even another two months, but I think they'll feel like they have to stick with him after the new contract and buying his players in the summer, on top of the ridiculous money we will have to pay him to leave.
I second that... I believe we have enough quality and cover to be fighting for a top 4 spot. But the team is being led by what seems to be a blind, naive and stubborn leader.Maybe I'm biased but I believe that we have a squad that is top 5 already.
Consensus (from what I've seen online) seems to be that we're extremely unlikely to sack and will stick with the 'process' focussing on bringing in a new forward (again) in Jan.
I honestly can't imagine how we could possibly be so incompetent, but for some reason I also can't see any other outcome here. It'll be a(nother) complete nightmare season if we give him even another two months, but I think they'll feel like they have to stick with him after the new contract and buying his players in the summer, on top of the ridiculous money we will have to pay him to leave.
It is usually used for individual sports, or stuff like chess, but nowadays it is also getting used in FIFA ranking. But the idea is that it takes into account the quality of opposition. Defeating an opponent who has an Elo ranking lower than you, won't increase your Elo by much, but losing against such an opponent, will lower your Elo. Conversely, losing against an opponent with Elo ranking higher than you won't decrease your Elo that much, but defeating such an opponent will increase your Elo a lot. The bigger the difference in Elo, the more increase/decrease in Elo you get by defeating/losing against an opponent which has a higher/lower Elo than you.What is this ranking? What does it take into account?
And the whole Old Trafford firmly behind Erik when that happens, is what we must see.
Maybe I'm biased but I believe that we have a squad that is top 5 already.
If I bet, I'd be chucking a large sum on us keeping him then losing to Brentford first game back
Well that would be a complete waste of time
What's sickening is that the only player that followed instructions in the same fixture last season was sold against ETH's will. The management has made life extremely difficult for the manager.Fans will need to come together at Brentford game and show Erik that we all stand by him.
These fecking owners are letting him down?What's sickening is that the only player that followed instructions in the same fixture last season was sold against ETH's will. The management has made life extremely difficult for the manager.
Absolutely - Ten Hag can have no complaints if he is sacked. He will be sacked, it is a matter of when. My point has very little to do with the current manager, probably should have made it in another thread.I'll bite: Yes.
We should be competing for the title. Not saying we should win it. But we shouldn't be struggling to finish 10-15 points off the top, which is what top 4 usually is. I can accept something like Ten Hag's first season, where we went to Palace and Arsenal looking like we were in the mix and then we faltered and it fell apart and we ended up 3rd. But I'm not having that its acceptable for Man Utd to continue to be miles away from the top of the table, which is what 5th and down is.
Lets have it right, after finishing 8th Ten Hag could've had no complaints with being sacked. However, the performance he got out of us against the best team in the country was reason to give him a stay of execution. He's run out of road now though. He has to go. If the guy who follows him fails as badly they have to go too.
No other big club accepts this idea of 'transition.' Its not accepted at Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, Juve. Even when they're in the gutter they demand quick turnarounds. Juve got relegated after the match fixing scandal and as soon as they got promoted the expectation was a title charge.
We need to get back to thinking like a giant of European football.
NowSo when is the meeting?
Sport is the section of the paper not the name, and they're known as the redtops for a reasonW
What's funny to me is almost all of them has 'sport' in their names and the logo is always red and white.
Well that would be a complete waste of time
This is where I appreciate LVG. The man had a plan , yes a big snooze fest but probably we played with a style during his time .
Not that I liked his game but everyone knew what we will do . We always had a plan. All other managers post SAF looked like they could fail at any point of time.
Reminds me of that Craig Burley video from last week saying we hit the iceberg, then reversed and hit it again to see if it's as bad as it was the first time.I find that idea pretty unusual. Imagine being captain of the Titanic and finding out you're going to hit an iceberg well in advance and you just plough on anyway becasue reasons.
I keep updating this thread as if it were a big transfer. Just sack him, please.