Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked

[BuzzKillington]

At least Rashford isn’t injured. It was a rotational change.

Why would you hook him, he’d looked pretty good in that first half and Amad had been pointless.

 

[leontas]

“We have to defend better.” Wise words from ETH in his post match interview.

 

[edgecutter]

People are still voting “back” even since that match

Oppo fans. No true United fan is that deluded

 

[Zed 101]

Porto had several decent openings before we scored, the 2 goals derailed their momentum but our formation is so poor, gaps everywhere, just pure dog shite

Rashford, maybe lacking defensively, but our one threat in attack, subbed off at half time just for rotation, ETH is fecking loopy

 

[DJ_21]

24.

@edgecutter didn’t realise the post I seen was before this match

 

[Teja]

I really disagree with waiting until after the Villa game.

Gives the new guy an international break and hopefully a decent run of fixtures to get settled in.

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

This. Pot shots and blind passes just like its training. Don't think they have any faith in him.

Nope. Disagree. He hasn’t lost the dressing room. At all.

It’s Ten Hags system and lack of any day to day coaching that’s making the players look like utter dogshit.

 

[Lentwood]

Don’t think I’ve ever seen RedCafe wanting a manager to be sacked a much as this. Even Old Trafford has gone negative which hasn’t happened that much since Fergie retired.

Wasn't on here for Moyes season but OGS, Jose and LvG never went much beyond roughly half of the forum wanting them gone...and all three were never unanimously popular choices to begin with.

EtH was a popular choice but a special kind of ineptitude has led to unprecedented levels of fans calling for his head

 

[edgecutter]

@edgecutter didn’t realise the post I seen was before this match

It'll be 25 at the weekend

 

[United Hobbit]

We may be granted a reprieve from this nightmare soon come...

Even without a battering at Villa, I don't see any angle where he survives this coming international break

Fingers crossed it's so he can sack him in person immediately after

 

[van Nistelrooy]

He just can't be in charge for Brentford after the international break.

 

[Max_United]

A city plant? Maybe their cheating runs deeper than first thought.

Honestly at this stage I cannot even completely rule out that Pep threw away the cup just to keep EtH at his job. And that Emery will instruct his players to play for a draw to rule us out of top-4 contention this season

 

[Bobski]

People are still voting “back” even since that match

They can't be watching the games, there is nothing in that experience that would have you backing him. It can only be a point of principle against sacking, or stubbornness to stick with an earlier opinion (or trolling by non Utd fans) but Utd have had maybe 5/6 genuinely decent performances out of the last, what, 60/70 games?

I can't believe what I am watching, this isn't professional football as a set up.

 

[ElCuddlos]

Ten Hag's management is indistinguishable from deliberate sabotage.

 

[Fortitude]

He's gonna get the villa game, and it'll be a complete humiliation. The club is allowing this to happen.

And still some believe this is perfectly normal; ritual humiliation. Dragging the carcass of the dead horse across coals for the globe to see.

 

[Bocca9978]

Just said he took Rashford off at HT for rotation. Ludicrous.

Is he insane? He really doesn’t see the same game we watch.
Can’t wait till he’s gone.

 

[Dazzmondo]

"Something, something, something, trophies. Something, something, something, heh."

 

[Robbie Boy]

Took a while to colour code that! We've conceded 3 or more goals in 19.51% of our games under ETH, we've conceded 2 or more in 37.40%.

Every game we've conceded 3 goals:

Sun Nov 6, 2022​	A​	Aston Villa (13.)​	3:1​
Sun Jan 22, 2023​	A​	Arsenal (1.)​	3:2​
Thu Apr 20, 2023​	A​	Sevilla FC​	3:0​
Sun Sep 3, 2023​	A​	Arsenal (5.)​	3:1​
Sat Sep 16, 2023​	H​	Brighton (6.)​	1:3​
Tue Oct 3, 2023​	H​	Galatasaray​	2:3​
Sun Oct 29, 2023​	H​	Man City (2.)​	0:3​
Wed Nov 1, 2023​	H​	Newcastle​	0:3​
Wed Nov 29, 2023​	A​	Galatasaray​	3:3​
Sat Dec 9, 2023​	H​	Bournemouth (15.)​	0:3​
Thu Feb 1, 2024​	A​	Wolves (11.)​	3:4​
Sun Mar 3, 2024​	A​	Man City (2.)​	3:1​
Sun Mar 17, 2024​	H​	Liverpool​	4:3​
Sun Apr 21, 2024​	A​	Coventry​	3:3​
Sun Sep 1, 2024​	H​	Liverpool (4.)​	0:3​
Sun Sep 29, 2024​	H​	Tottenham (10.)​	0:3​
Thu Oct 3, 2024​	A​	FC Porto​	3:3​

---

. That is all.

 

[pratyush_utd]

“In process, Wait” : ETH

 

[Sarni]

If the "best in class" were pleased with that then our future is very, very bleak indeed.

Yeah but you don’t give someone two games to save their job and then fire them anyway. He has at least earned himself a good few weeks here. Even if we lost at Villa he will be allowed to regroup during international break and give it a go against Brentford and others.

I’m traveling for Brentford game (was also at Spurs game) and was deep down hoping I’d be seeing a different manager on the bench but have absolutely zero hope now.

 

[stevoc]

Get a room

I already have a house with 6 of them, 7 if you count the hallway.

 

[Teja]

Can anyone explain why he is trying to play football that inevitability leaves massive space to cover while seemingly prioritizing signing players who lack pace, running power and the physicality to make it work?

What the hell? How is it supposed to work? Maybe if he played a possession game and looked to control territory and tempo you could get away with that style of player but he is effectively buying players with an obvious weakness and then asking them to play a style that exaggerates that weakness.

It is abject lunacy, I am watching these games thinking that Ten Hag is some sort of parody manger, playing a long joke that he can't quite understand that his bosses aren't getting. Surely no rational human mind could play this football with this group of players?

Martinez, Dalot, Bruno, Rashford, Eriksen are all lightweights. That entire left hand side this game (Eriksen, Dalot, Martinez, Rashford) had no intensity at all. Is it really surprising that most of their threat came in from crosses in that area? I think having an actual LB + Mainoo back will help a bit here.

TBF Rashford uses his pace to press quite well when he wants to. The problem is he doesn't do it for 90 minutes.

Obviously agree with the broader point you're making.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

They can't be watching the games, there is nothing in that experience that would have you backing him. It can only be a point of principle against sacking, or stubbornness to stick with an earlier opinion (or trolling by non Utd fans) but Utd have had maybe 5/6 genuinely decent performances out of the last, what, 60/70 games?

I can't believe what I am watching, this isn't professional football as a set up.

I clicked on 2 random users and they were both Chelsea fans.

So I think that’s probably it in the main.

 

[Berbaclass]

I already have a house with 6 of them, 7 if you count the hallway.

Peasant

 

[Rockets Redglare]

Took a while to colour code that! We've conceded 3 or more goals in 19.51% of our games under ETH, we've conceded 2 or more in 37.40%.

Every game we've conceded 3 goals:

Sun Nov 6, 2022​	A​	Aston Villa (13.)​	3:1​
Sun Jan 22, 2023​	A​	Arsenal (1.)​	3:2​
Thu Apr 20, 2023​	A​	Sevilla FC​	3:0​
Sun Sep 3, 2023​	A​	Arsenal (5.)​	3:1​
Sat Sep 16, 2023​	H​	Brighton (6.)​	1:3​
Tue Oct 3, 2023​	H​	Galatasaray​	2:3​
Sun Oct 29, 2023​	H​	Man City (2.)​	0:3​
Wed Nov 1, 2023​	H​	Newcastle​	0:3​
Wed Nov 29, 2023​	A​	Galatasaray​	3:3​
Sat Dec 9, 2023​	H​	Bournemouth (15.)​	0:3​
Thu Feb 1, 2024​	A​	Wolves (11.)​	3:4​
Sun Mar 3, 2024​	A​	Man City (2.)​	3:1​
Sun Mar 17, 2024​	H​	Liverpool​	4:3​
Sun Apr 21, 2024​	A​	Coventry​	3:3​
Sun Sep 1, 2024​	H​	Liverpool (4.)​	0:3​
Sun Sep 29, 2024​	H​	Tottenham (10.)​	0:3​
Thu Oct 3, 2024​	A​	FC Porto​	3:3​

You forgot the 7-0.

Edit: realised it was just the 3’s! Jesus wept.

 

[Lewnited]

Nope. Disagree. He hasn’t lost the dressing room. At all.

It’s Ten Hags system and lack of any day to day coaching that’s making the players look like utter dogshit.

Agreed. On the contrary I think the players are doing all they can for him, but they spend entire games exposed by this system... as they have done for over a year now.

 

[stevoc]

Perhaps INEOS might consider sacking him around Halloween.

Hopefully they do it on the Feast of St Francis of Assisi.

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

Took a while to colour code that! We've conceded 3 or more goals in 19.51% of our games under ETH, we've conceded 2 or more in 37.40%.

Every game we've conceded 3 goals:

Sun Nov 6, 2022​	A​	Aston Villa (13.)​	3:1​
Sun Jan 22, 2023​	A​	Arsenal (1.)​	3:2​
Thu Apr 20, 2023​	A​	Sevilla FC​	3:0​
Sun Sep 3, 2023​	A​	Arsenal (5.)​	3:1​
Sat Sep 16, 2023​	H​	Brighton (6.)​	1:3​
Tue Oct 3, 2023​	H​	Galatasaray​	2:3​
Sun Oct 29, 2023​	H​	Man City (2.)​	0:3​
Wed Nov 1, 2023​	H​	Newcastle​	0:3​
Wed Nov 29, 2023​	A​	Galatasaray​	3:3​
Sat Dec 9, 2023​	H​	Bournemouth (15.)​	0:3​
Thu Feb 1, 2024​	A​	Wolves (11.)​	3:4​
Sun Mar 3, 2024​	A​	Man City (2.)​	3:1​
Sun Mar 17, 2024​	H​	Liverpool​	4:3​
Sun Apr 21, 2024​	A​	Coventry​	3:3​
Sun Sep 1, 2024​	H​	Liverpool (4.)​	0:3​
Sun Sep 29, 2024​	H​	Tottenham (10.)​	0:3​
Thu Oct 3, 2024​	A​	FC Porto​	3:3​

And we are missing the thrashings as well!

Brentford and City in 2022/2023.
7-0.
Copenhagen.

15+ times since the League Cup final. Horrid.

 

[stevoc]

Peasant

You must be one of those high rollers with a utility room then eh?

 

[James35]

Absolutely cannot stand the man.

 

[Dem]

The Golazo show on CBS is absolutely dismantling ETH. Calling him a youth coach with subbing Rashford off, amongst other things. Brilliant to watch as it was the embodiment of many a poster here.

 

[VP89]

Nope. Disagree. He hasn’t lost the dressing room. At all.

It’s Ten Hags system and lack of any day to day coaching that’s making the players look like utter dogshit.

The system is one thing but you can see the individual punts in attacking positions which to me is nothing like what we had in the first couple games this season. I think in terms of offence at least they just lost faith.

 

[Rockets Redglare]

And we are missing the thrashings as well!

Brentford and City in 2022/2023.
7-0.
Copenhagen.

15+ times since the League Cup final. Horrid.

Palace put 4 past us last season as well.

 

[TsuWave]

What’s crazy is I feel these teams have been letting us off easy. Spurs could have scored 5 or 6. Porto had an easy chance to go up 4-2.

If we come across a ruthless team I legit think another defeat by 5 or 6 goals is well on the cards

 

[Rolaholic]

Yeah but you don’t give someone two games to save their job and then fire them anyway. He has at least earned himself a good few weeks here. Even if we lost at Villa he will be allowed to regroup during international break and give it a go against Brentford and others.

I’m traveling for Brentford game (was also at Spurs game) and was deep down hoping I’d be seeing a different manager on the bench but have absolutely zero hope now.

Not convinced this isn't a WUM post but he already had this after the drubbing at Old Trafford from our blood rivals...

 

[bdspeedy]

Maybe he's a shit manager, but prime Pep couldn't make this team good. We lost MILLIONS dithering on players like Lingard, Henderson, Scooby Doo, Maguire, etc,... when we should have cashed in when we had good offers for them and then our owners have left us with NO LEFT BACK for a year. We still have at least 5 dead wood players who SHOULD NEVER PLAY FOR US again. The game ended with Casemiro and Erikson, neither of which would play for ANY other top team in England, or Europe and yet they played 90 minutes today. The last 15 minutes, they WERE our midfield. I have no idea what the issue is but changing managers....again WILL NOT FIX THIS. GLAZERS OUT!!!!!

 

[Wilt]

Sack him before the Villa game ….only chance we have

 

[Berbaclass]

You must be one of those high rollers with a utility room then eh?

Having a house with under 10 rooms? You must be one of those commoners.

 

[RedSky]

Manager​	Total Games​	Conceded 2+​	2+ Percentage​	Conceded 3+​	3+ Percentage​
ETH​	123​	46​	37.40%​	24​	19.51%​
Ole​	162​	47​	29.01%​	14​	8.64%​
Jose​	144​	31​	21.53%​	7​	4.86%​

Just absolutely brutal.

 

[Sanchez7]

Maybe he's a shit manager, but prime Pep couldn't make this team good. We lost MILLIONS dithering on players like Lingard, Henderson, Scooby Doo, Maguire, etc,... when we should have cashed in when we had good offers for them and then our owners have left us with NO LEFT BACK for a year. We still have at least 5 dead wood players who SHOULD NEVER PLAY FOR US again. The game ended with Casemiro and Erikson, neither of which would play for ANY other top team in England, or Europe and yet they played 90 minutes today. The last 15 minutes, they WERE our midfield. I have no idea what the issue is but changing managers....again WILL NOT FIX THIS. GLAZERS OUT!!!!!

Mate he has spent 600m and signed most of the players in our starting 11. What are you even on about?