Arne Slot said it’s hard to face ETH team as there always organised and structured. Which team is he on about? We’ve not seen that here.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Sacked
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A combination of PSR rules and the overwhelming fan support for Ten Hag after the FA Cup win forced their hand, but they've never really had much confidence in him. Otherwise they wouldn't have spoken with Tuchel and De Zerbi in the first place.
This is what baffles me. We see the same clueless shite week after week now season after season. Stubborn crap.
The problem is basic and it's that's been ignore by every Utd manager in the last 15 years.
Fix the midfield.
Nobody's been able to do it.
That’s all well and good. But he’s won more trophies than Ole, and he won more trophies than LVG did. We need to decide what we’re basing him on here… is it winning trophies or does the league positioning GD etc come first?
It’s like when few years back Pep was talking about how big of a challenge is the next game with Cardiff or Hull at home. When he praised the opposition you knew he’s just talking shit to motivate players
Is a single one of those fees actually what we have paid for them?
I think every opposing manager will talk positively about ETH. It's general courtesy and they all want him to stay for the return match.
Because at Ajax he was able to call upon a team that had been conditioned to play football at high technical level from the youth team upwards. A much easier group of players to coach as they had the basics and fundamentals nailed.
If the people who decided to go with him before the summer, decide to sack him after 3 matches, that would say a lot about those people.
It would mean they're feckin' idiots, in my book.
But then again, it would perhaps - no, strike that: clearly - be even more idiotic to stick with an incompetent man in a key position just because they made the (idiotic) call in the first place.
It would mean they're feckin' idiots, in my book.
But then again, it would perhaps - no, strike that: clearly - be even more idiotic to stick with an incompetent man in a key position just because they made the (idiotic) call in the first place.
Why are we always doing rondo's, in every trainings video?
Yep, I was a bit confused when I saw us prioritising the defence over the midfield this summer. The midfield is where the game is won and lost.
Doesn't work like this, as soon as he left it pretty much went to shit.
At Ajax the squad is constantly being renewed because the best players are being sold.
With add-ons probably. Remove like 30m totals of all add-ons.
Can’t rebuild the whole squad in one summer. We fixed CDM and central defense this summer. Hopefully we focus on play makers and box to box midfielders next summer.
Half of there players and his players now play for us
does anyone think things would be different if we had FDJ? It was once said that he’s the one that glued everything togetherInstruction. The core principle is as rapid a vertical progression as possible, which plays a huge hand in how many unnecessary turnovers there are from forced passes that aren’t on from players who shouldn’t be attempting them in the first place.
So you’re telling me hypothetically, the year he came here if he would have brought that first XI he would have been able to play that system here and would have been fighting for titles?
It almost felt like Collyer was playing McTominay role, for a moment he was the most advanced player, we actually created a chance when Mainoo played the pass and he headed down to Zirkzee. I think later on he was playing a bit deeper.
Collyer especially was cheating forward as much as possible in the second half, definitely an instruction from Ten Hag.
I spent the whole summer utterly perplexed that so many people got back on the Ten Hag bandwagon after 1 cup upset. Not one bit surprised it's gone to shit so quickly
If Tuchel or De Zerbi were to come in, the same people crowing for ETH departure would be doing the same thing again in 2-3 years time for the new guy. Whatever happened to having patience? People were saying Arteta should be sacked only a few years ago also. Now, those people are quiet.
They were never as vulnerable as us at the back. But alright, after two full seasons, it’s just the players that are bad. ETH is faultless. Should keep him and let him buy trash until it clics, because you know, SAF needed 6 years to win the league.Liverpool also played a 3-1-6 build up
Ten Hag seems to stick to what he knows with everything
Signings, tactics, staff, haircut, training
Didn't say we should, I said midfield should have been a priority as it's the most important part of the team. We won't improve our midfield much under Ten Hag as he clearly doesn't know a good midfielder when he sees one. He buys CAMs and tries to play them as 8s or DMs who can't kick a ball.
Cause you can see progress under Arteta. What progress have you seen under Erik? Even when Klopp took over your team he wasn’t great in the first 2 years but season 3 there was clear progress.
Yup, I wish people stop giving them that. I've seen them do this more and more often. They've devolved into those twitter accounts who say some controversial just so there is engagement.
Yes, but we need to put United into the Edervise for that to happen…
There’s a big difference between winning the Dutch league and bottling a tie with Spurs and winning the Premier League
I'm aware of that. I think at least xmas because it's like the club has reset under INEOS, so INEOS would be sacking their manager very early in their reign. I know Ten Hag is in his third season but only one under INEOS.
Extra 10-15% from players with interim manager; This is my biggest issue with players post Fergie. I understand the role of a manager is to get the best out of players, but it's wrong to get every manager sacked. That culture NEEDS to stop. Every player that plays for the club must not undermine the manager. Sancho did, he was sold. A lot of this is down to players, even though Ten Hag is stubborn in changing his ways. But maybe wanting his style will someday work eventually. So give RVN the reigns after a few games, no way. There's an argument whatever his role is here will also take a bit of time to implement. My argument to your point here isn't to just defend Ten Hag, the players getting the manager sacked has to stop just because they don't like how things are. They play for Man United, not themselves.
How much worse can it get? It can always get worse. But can it get better, has it gotten better? There's an argument the style of play is better. Results aren't better and that's what counts. That doesn't mean the results won't get better. Honestly, if United are in a worse position than last season this xmas, then I think a change is needed. Problem is, who do you get in that's going to change anything for the better.
Well the first season everyone was happy with what he was doing. It worked. The second season was an awful season and it was riddled with injuries which didn't help anything. In my eyes, last season there was so much going on I wouldn't blame just Ten Hag for the poor season.
We are three games in and it has started with two defeats. We could have beaten Brighton but we were not clinical enough, two disallowed goals and two awful moments of defending.
He simply won't nor shouldn't be sacked after a few games. That is ludicrous. If it's worse at xmas period than last season then yeah that should be a discussion.
It’s always the same shit - inflated numbers, scandalous headlines etc. Works like clockwork with terminally online social media crowd. But I’m no boomer to say “oh how bad media is now compared to the old times” because they’ve always been heinous and disgusting.
Oh feck off
If you dont laugh you'll cry.
These are all preloaded now. Reckon the media will shoot them out systematically until he’s out the door.
The first season we got spanked by Pool 0-7 and punished in the EL by Sevilla, so I wasn’t really particularly happy despite Carabao Cup. It was okayish, but not a big improvement over Ole. Second season was absolutely terrible with some of the most embarrassing results and performances I’ve seen since following the club in ‘99, the CL exit was blasphemous and the FA cup doesn’t really salvage the year of disgusting football. So I’ve personally seen enough
Hope so. Getting a failed manager sacked at United requires the equivalent of running a political campaign these days.
Can you blame them? Such an easy target, they’d be doing the exact same thing if it was Pool or Chelsea stuck with an incompetent dude and refusing to face reality. Heavily followed clubs, and we are the heaviest, will always face that
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