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Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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He seem very likeable so far.
Looking sharp on first day in the office
The image etched in every Utd fans brain for life.
If he isn’t charged - which after 3 months there still isn’t enough evidence to charge him - then a team abroad absolutely will pay good money for him. 5 months ago he was a 100m asset - he spends 3 years banging goals in abroad he’ll be 23 and worth a fortune again. Society and football forget very quickly. A statement, a few PR interviews and lots of goals is all it will take. People thinking if he isn’t charged he’s just going to go work for deliveroo are ridiculously naive. Money makes the football world go round.
https://www.parool.nl/sport/erik-te...el-afscheid-ik-ben-ajacied-geworden~bdf66447/
I saw the Greenwood quotes yesterday morning on Twitter at the same time the rest came out. This is the supposed article - I can’t verify them though as it’s in Dutch and behind a paywall.
I like that we have a proper manager who isn't outdated for a change.
Which is why Ten Hag is the manager and not you. He will know exactly who is good enough and isn't. If he says they are good enough to be in the squad, I would rather back him, no offence.
Would you say ‘ik ben in dienst van’ and ‘ik ben in dienst genomen’ have exactly the same connotations, or are there nuances? I’m practicing my Dutch.
Ed. forget it - Cheimoon cleared it up!
I know this is many pages back, but just for clarity: there is no ambiguity in Dutch, 'in dienst van' only means 'employed by' in this context.
Those literal translations are fun.Dutch 'krachtenvelden' in this context means more like 'competing spheres of influence'.
Ah, thanks for the clarification.
Feck it, I'm officially excited! Seems like he has the right work mentality and strength of character to succeed here. And he's bald.
It will take time, but I am actually looking forward to seeing what he can do.
It will take time, but I am actually looking forward to seeing what he can do.
Looks like he wants de Jong bad, and I'm glad the club are pushing it, but I hope this isn't another summer long fruitless pursuit and there is an alternative to be found.
The only place greenwood can go is abroad if found innocent. He would be mercilessly hounded by the fans in this country, whoever he played for and the stigma on whoever bought him. Utd should wash their hands of him asap
A beautiful face needs space. At least that's what my mum tells meHe’s got nothing left to lose! I know this because I am also balding
He’s got nothing left to lose! I know this because I am also balding
In football, it's the reverse of Samson. Your power comes from an absence of hair. The balder you get, the stronger you will become!
He was my choice and I am nervous and excited. I'd love to be a smug "I told ya" bastard three years from now.
We will have the two sexy bald Dutch football maniacs to admire for the next few years now. Why should Pep have all the fun?
Because it is.
wait…. how the feck do I know that?
It must be because we are unconsciously in love with Harry Styles but we don’t know it or understand why.
Not really. What was seen was strong enough that the onus would be on him to prove it wasn’t true, because it was very damning.
Again, him being found not guilty wouldn’t prove him as innocent, and the balance of probabilities say that he likely is guilty, which isn’t the courts burden of proof.
You seem to be agreeing with the point though. The burden is proof is with him but we don’t know what that is so no point commenting on definitives until we do.
I like him. I like his vibe. He looks like the kinda guy who won’t talk any crap.
Yeah I have no clue what some people (including that poster) have against hard work. It doesn‘t guarantee success, but helps increase the chances no doubt. God forbid you work hard on something you enjoy or like.
Guilty in front of the court is the same as being innocent to me. Unless we doubt the court and our own justice system.
Then you don’t understand burden of proof. Even the basic tenets of the justice system itself would disagree with your idiotic statement.
I wouldn’t mind Anthony, Timber, Gravenberch because they are great young players. Might be a bit cliche because he’s their ex manager but they’re the type of players any coach would want.
But Di Jong, Di Ligt are no longer Ajax players. They are Barca and Juve players and just feels like we’re making the same mistakes that we’ve been making for the past 10 years. Especially with DI Jong who doesn’t really even want to leave Barca, and if he was forced to leave it doesnt sound like United would be his first choice, shades of another Di we once signed.
The Ajax fans here made a private conversation and planned to shit us up by downplaying what EtH has done over there. Sneaky really, but the truth is out now.
It’s the type of CDM that De Jong is. He’s great in a team that’s fully functioning and already insych, but he’s not the type of CDM to improve a rubbish team.
I dont buy that for one second. Frenkie is not a luxury player that fits in when the team is built.
People get confused between CDM and DLP and we lack both. Even if we get a CDM, it helps us defensively but the problems building from the back will still be there.
Frenkie sorts that issue out, he receives the ball from the CB and can pass out the back helping us in transitions.
He is exactly the profile that this team lacks.
Di Jong, Di Ligt.
I think it will speed up the transition period if we can get a couple of (former) Ajax players in whom Ten Hag worked with in the past and understand his philosophy and tactics. At least Ten Hag will have players he can fall back on if the results go south the first few months and the current group of players are having doubts with the manager.
I think De Jong is a great player and would fit any top level team. However he’s not the CDM to join a dysfunctional team trying to transition into a fully functioning elite team that wins and plays with a style of play like Ajax. He’s the type of player you sign once the players around him are suitable to him and that role.Comparing Ajax 18/19 to Everton. One had great run in UCL reached semi final and beating Juventus and Real Madrid on their way, while the other one was………
The reason why Klopp didn’t raid Dortmund is because the Dortmund players went to Bayern instead. As for Bayern, City had KDB, Silva, Fernandinho, Aguero, and Kompany. So why should Pep go after Bayern if he already had quality players in the city squad.
End of the day, it’s about signing the right players that fit the manager’s system. The likes of De Jong would fit ETH’s system since he was the key player of ETH’s 18/19 season.
The perfect example would be someone like Kante, he play great and be a key player in any league and in any team. Whereas someone like Pirlo would probably struggle as a CDM in most premier league teams esp during his prime years.
So my objection is not to De Jong, it’s to signing De Jong this early. I think De Jong in our team next season will have weaknesses exposed and his strengths will go to waste. Also if he doesn’t want to leave Barca, and we’re not even his first choice if they’re forced to sell him then I’m opposed to buying him regardless of how good he is.
Considering I’ve compared De Jong to Pirlo, and said he needs the right players around him. Maybe like Pirlo had Gatusso. A counter argument to my point, would be sign De Jong and CDM that does the dog work… if people think the Glazers won’t look at De Jong £70m = CDM fixed then they’re very optimistic.
The difference now is that it seems that the footballing men make footballing decisions.
I am sure ETH knows what he wants. We need a ball winner, Fred can be that guy, what we lack is a player in the midfield who can pass the football and is press resistant, I don't even know when the last time we had such a player.
Carrick maybe
So were Hummels and Puyol. A high line isn’t about having quick defenders, it’s about defending as a team. That’s implemented by coaches.
I tend to agree, I don’t think he will be seen in our teams again.
Its almost as if people have no idea about defending. I mean playing a high line means only fast defenders work is one of the worst statements I have heard.
If you are defensively good enough, press the ball in the right areas, you can read the game and don't require that excessive pace.
Spurs played a high line with Vertonghen too.
De Jong would have a far bigger impact in this team than Kante would that’s for certain.
It all depends on the manager's system. To build the team according to the manager system, we should start with the spine of the team. FDJ was the spine of ETH's team in 18/19. Schone wasn't even Kante's type of midfielder or the CDM to join a dysfunctional team trying to transition into a fully functioning elite team.
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