why?! He was awful.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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why?! He was awful.
Yeah, it all points to unfamiliar set-up or structure. We will break the 44 goals conceded this season yet we seem to play well.
I believe Ten Hag will sort the midfield structure + elite striking acquisition will make us very formidable force.
Fair enough. I feel the same about Dave Sexton.
I mean, I think most people are saying it ironically, as it's the kind of utter bollox that was thrown out to anyone who criticised Ole.
But this is the thing, he wasn’t always awful! People seem to love hating on him but my memories are that we had a run where it was the first time I’d enjoyed watching us play again, we got a belief back that we could come from behind, record breaking away results, we had some good cup runs, good wins against bigger teams, It fell apart yes but it wasn’t always awful.
I’ve seen posts saying that finally ten Haag has us coming from behind in games since Fergie and that’s just not true, you can hate OGS without having to lie about his time here. And you can also love having ten Haag here without having to hate everything that went on before.
It is very easy to spot the Ole fanboys, they clogged up this forum with their mental gymnastics for over 2 years.
It is simply not worth engaging with them. Ten Hag isn't perfect but he has done an excellent job thus far give the hand he was dealt. Using his low points to claim superior moral ground is just sad.
New one from yesterday was 'Bald is cold'
Behind every great bald man, there's (at least) one more bald man.
Apart from an initial 10 game run where the players obviously felt like a weight had been lifted it was mainly mediocrity. There would be the odd run of games where you (one) tried to convince yourself that things were good, but the tactical decisions never improved, the players never looked any better coached - or fitter - and the rhetoric from Solksjaer was uninspiring and cliched. For everyone bemoaning Sunday's 'worst result ever' they should remind themselves that a few years back Solksjaer took us on our worst run of form since the 1930s - 7 defeats in 10 games - and that wasn't at the end when things were falling apart, that was when he'd been here longer than Ten Hag has. It's weird that some of the same people who have talked about other posters not having 'standards' cos they aren't crying about the Liverpool result didn't seem to worry about standards when we had a manager that everybody in the world could see was not of the standard that United should have had in charge.
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the away run, the Europa league run; neither was in the first ten games. We also started coming back from behind when before that I had no faith in us ever turning games around. It wasn’t all bad. Cool to hate the guy I suppose.
You have your memories I have mine, guess that’s football.
the away run, the Europa league run; neither was in the first ten games. We also started coming back from behind when before that I had no faith in us ever turning games around. It wasn’t all bad. Cool to hate the guy I suppose.
I'm so happy we got rid of that fraud, so I don't have to explain for the nth time why these runs are pathetic and suitable for a Spurs supporter to be proud of
Good on you
is it 'cool' though? Is it really?!
Didn't the away run come during lockdown, when essentially all the same? And we bottled the Europa. Considering you said yesterday that even if we finish this season 3rd in the league and with 2 cups you would view the season as a disappointment, it's really strange to hear the kinds of things that you do class as good memories!!
New one from yesterday was 'Bald is cold'
I can sympathise!Pot 1 for Champions League too,still tough ask with Roma (Jose) Juve and Lego Pep still knocking around in it
Nothing weird about it whatsoever
Where did I say they were good memories? It’s just my memories of solsjkaers time here, it wasn’t all bad was my point when you said it was awful.
we may not have won the final but we got there, people are loving a Europa league run this year yet there’s a poster above mocking it as a spurs run when talking about the ‘fraud’. That was my point.
I also didn’t say it would be a dissapointment ffs. I said it wouldn’t be looked back on as a great season in years to come just for winning the carling cup and getting top four, you were going off on the hypotheticals, I’m not getting into that again
He's working miracles at the moment. We have to remember he's barely getting any time on the training ground because of the short time between games. I cant wait to see after the summer when hes got new reinforcements in, more time over the summer to implement new ideas and then not such a mad schedule next season where we can actually keep working on new tactics.
Defintely! I’m excited to see how the play progresses over time. How we are winning so many games already is amazing but i expect the style of play to get better too with more suitable and better players and time to actually train methods. Certainly seems capable of it.
If you consider where he had to start, it would be a great achievement
It's just really fecking weird. He has 23 posts in here: 12 have come since Sunday, not one to praise ETH when he won the League Cup and some of his posts in here are bigging up Ole's away record. That's a pretty clear agenda, and he's not the only one, others who only became active in here after Sunday, have suddenly disappeared after last night. Not a word of praise from any of them
@Tom Cato it looks pretty bad for you here. Credibility shot.Very telling quote from ETH on being unsure the fan reaction at OT after the Liverpool game:
"I was curious about that and I was pleased by the response from the crowd to the team," Ten Hag added. "From minute one they were behind the team, the team gave energy by performance and they gave it back. There is a great bond between the team and the fans and we are pleased by that."
I was struck by ETH using the term "we" here...it's a small thing, but not insignificant IMHO. I feel like the difference between ETH and so many other managers (especially some of our post-SAF ones) is that he is an authority figure to the players and demands that respect and position...but he also considers himself PART of the team. He's in it with his players, and the players feel that.
It's a subtle thing, but can often be a huge part of a manger getting through bad periods. Players don't feel a separation between themselves and the manager. There's no scapegoating. Everyone is in it together and good and bad performances are on everyone...not just the players. It can go miles towards long term success and not losing the dressing room.
"I was curious about that and I was pleased by the response from the crowd to the team," Ten Hag added. "From minute one they were behind the team, the team gave energy by performance and they gave it back. There is a great bond between the team and the fans and we are pleased by that."
I was struck by ETH using the term "we" here...it's a small thing, but not insignificant IMHO. I feel like the difference between ETH and so many other managers (especially some of our post-SAF ones) is that he is an authority figure to the players and demands that respect and position...but he also considers himself PART of the team. He's in it with his players, and the players feel that.
It's a subtle thing, but can often be a huge part of a manger getting through bad periods. Players don't feel a separation between themselves and the manager. There's no scapegoating. Everyone is in it together and good and bad performances are on everyone...not just the players. It can go miles towards long term success and not losing the dressing room.
Very good point
It's a great mentality to have. We all have each other's backs. Brilliant.
Also both times he's won Manager of the Month he's made sure to pose with all his staff. He makes everyone feel included and part of the journey.
You can tell how much the fan reaction meant to Ten Hag, he clearly didnt want all the hard work to bond the fans and players to be thrown away with 1 game.
You can see from his programme notes and post match interview, where he said he is grateful for the fans for showing support.
He comes across really genuine.
Hang on? Talking about having your own memories
Did we not come from behind under Mourinho? Did the club not even do an article on it?
Supporting Ole was exactly like being a Spurs fan, an away run here, a cup run there, meh league points totals every season and no silverware.
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Feck off @Zlatan 7 you never said that???
You think an away run and a Europa League were good memories yet you’d consider third and 2 cups a “disappointment”?
I’m not having you said that, even Cato wouldn’t be that see through.
Me and the lads sure didHang on? Talking about having your own memories
Did we not come from behind under Mourinho? Did the club not even do an article on it?
Supporting Ole was exactly like being a Spurs fan, an away run here, a cup run there, meh league points totals every season and no silverware.
Ole apologists are just so tiresome. They can't get past the fact their manager failed and just can't move on. I guess they're annoyed they spent 3 years defending this crap passionately and now all this was in vain and they were proven wrong at the end but come on..learn how to move on.
It's a fantastic mentality.
Little things he has done, like having all the staff pose together with the League Cup, shows how classy he is. The guy has galvanised the whole club, instilled a winning mentality and helped to heal a very fractured fanbase.
Never said that they were good memories, Jesus Christ and I never said anything about a disappointment. Honestly the stuff that gets made up for a jump on is quite funny.
Fair enough, we came back under mourinho too. So it isn’t a recent thing.Hang on? Talking about having your own memories
Did we not come from behind under Mourinho? Did the club not even do an article on it?
Supporting Ole was exactly like being a Spurs fan, an away run here, a cup run there, meh league points totals every season and no silverware.
I just know myself that it was more enjoyable time than anything else post Fergie, and this season is more enjoyable again.
Logged in, was thinking "look at how many pages about Erik and we won yesterday".
Hmm. Must be something wrong.
Started reading, Ole this, Ole that.
Move on, he left, stop being so hurt.
I wonder if you guys talked about Erik in Ole's thread this much when Ole was the manager. Bite you bastards.
Hmm. Must be something wrong.
Started reading, Ole this, Ole that.
Move on, he left, stop being so hurt.
I wonder if you guys talked about Erik in Ole's thread this much when Ole was the manager. Bite you bastards.
That was strictly prohibited as he was nothing but a hipster, flavour of the month manager.
fair enough, did seem far fetched.
My fave time watching United since Fergie is by far this season, and before that it’s Mourinho/Pogba/ Zlatan’s first season, by some distance too. We won cups that season, drew so many games we should’ve easily won and felt like we were going somewhere.
The Ole/Phelan honeymoon was great, so much fun, but even that turned into an absolute clusterfeck for the final 10 games or so, a sign of something that was to happen each and every season under them.
Always felt we were running in quick sand with them after that and that every good run would inevitably end with a run of relegation form. The whole thing felt so “Spursy”.
He bitq
But we both agree this season has been the best and most enjoyable, it’s nice to like everyone in the team again, Maguire being a bit iffy and even he’s not a bad character, just drives nails into me watching him play.
That’s a fair and balanced post and agree that season was good, my username came from the Zlatan signing. Maybe the mourinho era left such a sour taste it increased my enjoyment of the ole reign, untill the end obviously.
But we both agree this season has been the best and most enjoyable, it’s nice to like everyone in the team again, Maguire being a bit iffy and even he’s not a bad character, just drives nails into me watching him play.
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