That is very impressive. The spine of Varane, Martinez (recently Shaw), and Casemiro is one I wouldn’t trade for anyone in the league.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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So, a question.
Would the Pep of 2016 or Klopp of 2015 have been able to come into United with the club in the state it was in (culture, shit structure, awful morale, open mutiny, most players massively misfiring and mentally jaded, Ronaldo, Maguire, Rashford et al and their various issues), and leave the impact that ETH has left so far?
His presence and impact on the collective mindset and squad has been impressive. We have a special manager! (an actual one, not that other guy who called himself special)
Would the Pep of 2016 or Klopp of 2015 have been able to come into United with the club in the state it was in (culture, shit structure, awful morale, open mutiny, most players massively misfiring and mentally jaded, Ronaldo, Maguire, Rashford et al and their various issues), and leave the impact that ETH has left so far?
His presence and impact on the collective mindset and squad has been impressive. We have a special manager! (an actual one, not that other guy who called himself special)
Absolute miracle worker if gets us top 4 this season.
Won a 1230 kick off on BT Sports and capitalised on teams around us dropping points - the times they are a changing.
Very good
I don’t think ETH is aiming just a top four finish from the beginning and at the moment. We are many points away from the top, but there are still 22 league games to play. Let’s see where we are after February.
I'll just quote this so it doesn't go unnoticed.
Lucky my arse got this previously average squad quickly passing forward and pressing as a team high up the pitch in only 6 months, and its only going to get better this is exactly what was always meant by progress. All in the context of all the off the pitch man management troubles as well.
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Should report it too tbh.
Does feel like he is riding his luck a bit. Struggling to score against top teams, especially in 1st half, goal difference is still trash compared to the other teams around him.
We have seen these purple patches with previous managers post Ferguson. Hopefully I am wrong and he genuinely turns the trainwreck around.
I was pretty ambivalent on the Poch v ten Hag debate as neither excited me much, but he is doing a great job
I like that he disciplined Rashford and Rashford took it on the chin.
IMO, I think the punishment (dropping an in-form player from the starting 11) is a severe one, however I agree with it, because at this stage of Ten Hag's tenure with the team, he is required to develop the team in many aspects such as the technical aspects, tactical aspects, mental aspects, physical aspects and discipline, which means mating out severe punishments for small infractions is quite necessary to raise the level of discipline, the hope here is that in the future, these little silly infractions are stamped out from the team and a top discipline level is the default setting.
I also agree with Ten Hag's approach with Sancho, he thought he was not in the best physical and mental shape and probably needs some sort of special program away from everything.
Ten Hag still has alot of work to do, but I am happy with his work so far and where is the team now.
I also agree with Ten Hag's approach with Sancho, he thought he was not in the best physical and mental shape and probably needs some sort of special program away from everything.
Ten Hag still has alot of work to do, but I am happy with his work so far and where is the team now.
Who did you prefer?
Jesus Christ fellas calling ETH lucky 
People have short memories. We would have lost that kind of match last season.Jesus Christ fellas calling ETH lucky
No it doesn't. It's utterly bizarre to suggest that too, considering the road bumps that have been placed in front of EtH on his path so far.
What does that even mean. We had the better chances. We fully deserved to win that game.
Last season we had Ronaldo and a poor manager. A lot of things have changed...
I think that @The Cat is being positive. He means that we shouldn't take this kind of game for granted.
Pep no, because he had to buy 6 right backs and 3 goalkeepers at least before they got going. Imagine him not being able to spend obscene money on squad players and having his hands tied.
What do you mean by "this type of game"?
Thanks yes I am - we've been tested like this in the past and came up short - I am quite pleased we managed to grind it out today. I am fully behind ETH he's doing what needed to be done.
Games on paper people think we should win but previously Wolves have had a right go and we came up short.
The reaction from Rashford proves how much ETH is respected in the dressing room. No sulking even though he's at the best form of his career, his reaction was excellent, and he acknowledged his mistake after the game.
I believe what we're seeing from Arsenal this season is largely due to the change in culture driven by Arteta. He removed all the negative players, made sure all his current players are falling in line and hungry for success, and the difference from last season is day and night. ETH is on his way to achieve that, and I don't want to shit on Ronaldo, but Rashford is our current star player and his reaction to being disciplined compared to how Ronaldo's reaction shows how important it was to get rid Ronaldo regardless to his poor form. With just few additions I'm confident we'll have a team competing for everything.
I believe what we're seeing from Arsenal this season is largely due to the change in culture driven by Arteta. He removed all the negative players, made sure all his current players are falling in line and hungry for success, and the difference from last season is day and night. ETH is on his way to achieve that, and I don't want to shit on Ronaldo, but Rashford is our current star player and his reaction to being disciplined compared to how Ronaldo's reaction shows how important it was to get rid Ronaldo regardless to his poor form. With just few additions I'm confident we'll have a team competing for everything.
That's fair enough but anyone can see this is a different United in many ways.
Games against teams that are resilient, that soak up pressure and hit you in the guts.
Yep and I give most of the credit to ETH and new standards that just weren't there before. I am praising him honestly
Good then we can agree.
100%.
There was no real luck today. Apart from a couple of long shots and a corner we kept Wolves at arms length throughout! It’s been a long time since we’ve looked so solid- next step is obviously to improve us offensively as we are still pretty poor in that regard compared to most of our competitors
The WC break might have been perfect for EtH...plus he has faced nearly every team now, so the extra 4-6(?) weeks off should have given him time to take stock of everything and plan properly for the second half of the season.
Binning off Ronaldo is a massive headache gone as well.
Binning off Ronaldo is a massive headache gone as well.
Joe Cole isn't the sharpest tool in the box.
We would've won that game with at least 2 more goals, with Rooney and Ronaldo up front. There's not much more EtH could have done better.
It's a condition known as an Ole fanboyJesus Christ fellas calling ETH lucky
Klopp and Pep might be leaving in the next 3 years too which means If we stick with ETH and get him the players he wants then we've a shot at the title
Joe Cole probably couldn’t even list the teams he remembers playing for
They might but United and Liverpool have to get bought by ME investors first otherwise Pep has no reason to leave.
He’d take both on this year if we had a top striker. Taken more points than both since the Brentford debacle even with our lack of attacking options and Ronaldo being around.
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