Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24

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Withnail said:
Well preferably not but if it has to be someone short-term than that's what it has to be, even though we've been burned with that before. I just don't see how we can afford go through the rest of the season with Martial as the number 9.
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Totally agree but at the same time we wouldn't get any of Toney/Osimhen/Kane now
 
golden_blunder said:
HUGE concern for me. I feel like we’ve finally got someone who’s got the vision and knowledge to get us there but that a new owner might cast him aside to attract a different name
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Every prospective buyer simply has to GUARANTEE Erik stays in place,we don't want a Boehly with Tuchel situation
 
golden_blunder said:
HUGE concern for me. I feel like we’ve finally got someone who’s got the vision and knowledge to get us there but that a new owner might cast him aside to attract a different name
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I don't see a new owner shipping out a great manager
 
golden_blunder said:
HUGE concern for me. I feel like we’ve finally got someone who’s got the vision and knowledge to get us there but that a new owner might cast him aside to attract a different name
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That's why American owners should be a big concern. They hardly understand football, infrastructure investment is not their tradition as they don't understand the difference between owning a team vs owning a club lock stock and barrel, there is no pride and urgency to improve the performance as they are not used to relegation structure. A club is nothing but a corporate entity for them. You can point all the fingers to middle eastern billionaires but they understand what European football is, perhaps because most of them are educated in europe.
 
Honestly needs to take a long hard look at bringing Pellestri back/giving him time to play.

He is miles better than Elanga.
 
Spoony said:
Then why are the Glazers and FSG selling up?
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Because both clubs need a lot of investment to compete with the very best. United needs a new stadium, half a new team, and upgraded facilities. What's that, 1 billion plus?
 
I think most probably ETH will not get a proper striker in Jan window. At most maybe a striker on loan. Arnold or Murtough mentioned last summer that we have spent part of next season budget and we are expected to spend much less the next few windows.

And now the owners are looking to sell the club and I bet they are not willing to splash. I think the war chest will be locked.
 
Yakuza_devils said:
I think most probably ETH will not get a proper striker in Jan window. At most maybe a striker on loan. Arnold or Murtough mentioned last summer that we have spent part of next season budget and we are expected to spend much less the next few windows.

And now the owners are looking to sell the club and I bet they are not willing to splash. I think the war chest will be locked.
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Yeah loan or free agent looking most likely
 
Yakuza_devils said:
I think most probably ETH will not get a proper striker in Jan window. At most maybe a striker on loan. Arnold or Murtough mentioned last summer that we have spent part of next season budget and we are expected to spend much less the next few windows.

And now the owners are looking to sell the club and I bet they are not willing to splash. I think the war chest will be locked.
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croadyman said:
Yeah loan or free agent looking most likely
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Was it not widely reported we wouldn’t get anyone January unless someone left?

Obviously a certain someone has left.

We will get someone in.
 
TheReligion said:
Was it not widely reported we wouldn’t get anyone January unless someone left?

Obviously a certain someone has left.

We will get someone in.
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Yeah see a forward coming in but not an established number 9 as they aren't gonna be available until the summer
 


Feel for Erik, when will financial constraints cease to hinder and he can demand absolute quality like baldy on the other side?
 
Deery said:
Poor Ten Hag coming into this circus, it’s been one thing after another since he came in, hopefully he’s thick skinned and doesn’t let it bother him.
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He is mentally as tough as it gets I think. Also I'm of the mind that getting the ideal manager is the biggest single decision for a club and the hardest to get right. Now that they have EtH in place we will see his mentality and style of football filter down to the very bottom of the organization, from the lowest levels of ball and I expect we'll see an uptick in quality of the kids growing into the first team. Upgrade his bankroll on top of that and we'll see what he can do with top quality players.

I think he came to the PL to have the elite payroll. When he took the job I am sure he also knew the sale was forthcoming as well. So none of this is a surprise to him, just like Ronaldo was a guy he knew he would need to weed out of the program. I don't think any of this has surprised him.
 
Boondog said:
I think he came to the PL to have the elite payroll. When he took the job I am sure he also knew the sale was forthcoming as well. So none of this is a surprise to him, just like Ronaldo was a guy he knew he would need to weed out of the program. I don't think any of this has surprised him.
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He will have seen the Glazers and Ronaldo as two parts of the same negative so he'll probably be very happy with developments.
 
Lets be honest, if Glazers want to sell i'll be surprised if they invest any more money into transfers at this point. We have to hope that we get new owners in before January if we want any investment in January.
 
Isotope said:
When he's not just spending 200m on recent window.
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Honestly 18 clubs out of the league would pray for the investment constraints that the Glazers have supposedly imposed. Our problem isn't financial. Its strategic management.
The way money spent over the last 10 years has just been appalling. Hundreds of millions were spent just on the galacticos projects alone. That strategic blunder really points only at one man, Woodward.
 
sglowrider said:
Honestly 18 clubs out of the league would pray for the investment constraints that the Glazers have supposedly imposed. Our problem isn't financial. Its strategic management.
The way money spent over the last 10 years has just been appalling. Hundreds of millions were spent just on the galacticos projects alone. That strategic blunder really points only at one man, Woodward.
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we had a galatico project?
 
DutchSerb said:
Agreed, also if he was able to win over United fans surely he can win over a potential new owner. We're the hardest bunch to please.
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It wasn’t long ago that there were debates on here that our fanbase are the easiest to please with little demands for standards and results.
 
sglowrider said:
Honestly 18 clubs out of the league would pray for the investment constraints that the Glazers have supposedly imposed. Our problem isn't financial. Its strategic management.
The way money spent over the last 10 years has just been appalling. Hundreds of millions were spent just on the galacticos projects alone. That strategic blunder really points only at one man, Woodward.
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100% agreed, man. There was (or "is" probably) no strategic football thinking on the management side. And when we hire the wrong manager, we're doomed.

Every time we have new manager, it seems like we need to overhaul the whole squad and spend another hundreds of millions on new players just for him to "get the players he wants".
 
Tap said:
A plastic one i guess… Di Maria, Ronaldo, Pogba, Falcao etc. Big names but are past it
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That’s not a galatico project. Just good players. They weren’t even brought around the same time? Is United not meant to go for good players? Weird
 
Tap said:
A plastic one i guess… Di Maria, Ronaldo, Pogba, Falcao etc. Big names but are past it
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DiMaria had just dragged Real to a CL victory before he signed for us. How on earth was he past it?
 
That Tuchel situation was an odd one. Managers who are progressive and managed big clubs and won CL getting sacked so easily.
 
Deery said:
Poor Ten Hag coming into this circus, it’s been one thing after another since he came in, hopefully he’s thick skinned and doesn’t let it bother him.
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Its not Ten Hag exclusive. It's just the club. Look at when Mourinho (who admittedly bought a lot of the circus himself) had the whole Pogba fiasco. Then poor Ole had to make big calls with Lukaku and then HE had to contend with a Pogba fiasco.

We just sign toxic players and have toxic owners and the managers have to just deal with that.
 
Foxbatt said:
That Tuchel situation was an odd one. Managers who are progressive and managed big clubs and won CL getting sacked so easily.
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New owner wanted to cut off the old regime and bring in all new staff. It does happen I'm afraid and its worrying for Ten Hag but we should be okay.

About Boehly though.. the comforting thing about him and Chelsea is that he bought in Aubameyang for Tuchel and then got rid of Tuchel leaving Auba stranded which fills me with hope that he is going to be a terrible owner for them.
 
darioterios said:
We can all agree that the squad is still nowhere near complete even with that amount spent, the same 200 has to be in at least 3 windows in a row.
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Yes. We should definitely spend 600m on transfer fees alone - our entire yearly revenue - in a single calendar year. Anything other than that is “spending restraints” and it would totally be legal under FFP.
 
Tap said:
It wasn’t long ago that there were debates on here that our fanbase are the easiest to please with little demands for standards and results.
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And I would agree with that notion. There's a tendency to assume a trophy can never ever be won in a manager 1st season. Then in the 2nd season they expect the FA Cup. It's only in the 3rd season when a title challenge is expected and if that doesn't happen and the manager gets the sack, we start "rebuilding" all over again and shouldn't expect a trophy in the shortterm.
 
Brilliant Manager, he's done well so far but he needs to win one of the available cups to give him more time for the rebuild and structuring of the club.
 
izak said:
Brilliant Manager, he's done well so far but he needs to win one of the available cups to give him more time for the rebuild and structuring of the club.
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He will be given time. Everyone knows that he took over a shit show
 
He's the best decision the club have made in a very long time. He has a clear plan and he's working to implement it.

Too many people have some kind of yardstick "must finish x" "must win at least x this season"

If people can't see the vast improvement in the way United play compared to any other manager post Ferguson, then I'm not sure what they're watching.

The manager will be working now with all the young players and the remaining senior players and will have 5 weeks of solid coaching time to get them playing his system better. I think we're going to see an even better playing style after the world Cup with a few more of the young lads like Iqbal and McNeil breaking through by the end of the season.
 
GaryLifo said:
He's the best decision the club have made in a very long time. He has a clear plan and he's working to implement it.

Too many people have some kind of yardstick "must finish x" "must win at least x this season"

If people can't see the vast improvement in the way United play compared to any other manager post Ferguson, then I'm not sure what they're watching.

The manager will be working now with all the young players and the remaining senior players and will have 5 weeks of solid coaching time to get them playing his system better. I think we're going to see an even better playing style after the world Cup with a few more of the young lads like Iqbal and McNeil breaking through by the end of the season.
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I was with you until you said Iqbal and McNeil. They're alright but they're not likely to make it here.
 
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