Whilst I agree, I’m not sure getting outplayed by Brighton and 4-0 down at half time to Brentford was ever going to inspire patience.We spent the summer saying "things might get worse before they get better" and "give ETH time".
We are 1 and a half games in (yes terrible performances) and people are calling him De Boar and saying he needs to go
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Bringing on three subs at half time like the entire squad isn’t infected. Poor fella.
it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. I’m not sure if ETH is going last long enough to make a difference.
Too early to judge but keeping Maguire as captain and starting him in both matches raises question marks. He's a laughing stock, all other fans are having a field day. It's multiple mistakes every match.
You have to ask a pertinent question what is the real problem? can't be all down to Ole, Rangnick, and now EtH?
It is not easy to close a deal for a person who doesn't want to come here. FDJ will have a heap of alternatives should he leave Barca. Why on earth would he come to this shit show?
Guys, calm down and think. We all agreed to give him time. Let the guy work. I think he underestimated the intensity of the premier league. Also man utd's luck is shit, eth will adapt in no time
Martinez confidence must be shattered now.
Absolutely torn apart by Brighton and Brentford. They are mid table teams so I guess that makes us bottom 6 atm?
Wish he had made changes after second goal
Back him. Don’t care how bad it gets this season. There have been too many scapegoats for the real problem so far.
Anyways we’d be lucky if he didn’t walk. He’s far better than this shower of shite.
Anyways we’d be lucky if he didn’t walk. He’s far better than this shower of shite.
I cant stand Dalot ffs.
Everyone knew it was the players, Ralf said it, why has the board and EtH been so relaxed in not acting swiftly this window, it's bizarre. I feel for EtH but at the same time, I think he's been naive in thinking he could make this team do better.
Or he'll do an Evra
It’s going to take time, hopefully Erik can do his magic.
Scary to think what’s going to happen next Monday
He won't last long. Players are going to turn on him pretty fast.
He was doomed the minute he decided we needed to sign yet another CB for 50m. I said as much. It's just stupid.
I imagine you could write a dissertation or two on all of the underlying issues and decisions that have contributed to our decline over the last decade. It's a complete mess from top to bottom
Playing for crosses both games so far. He has to have more than this in his locker?
Thanks, that's interesting yet also depressing. Can you just tell me that he's a Kante regen, stroke my hair and tell me that it's all going to be alright?!
See I disagree. Football is about confidence. If all these players were at the top of their game then we'd be winning this game easily. When you're in the Dutch league and better than the opposition by a margin every week then your confidence if pumping. That's carried into the CL. How many players from recent Ajax side were not Premier League flops previously or have failed when they've gone to big sides in big leagues? I don't think any have been bona fide successes. You can argue about De Ligt and De Jong but I'd still have them as disappointing overall in relation to their hype when they were at Ajax. Personally I think if you'd put his Ajax team from last season actually in the PL then they wouldn't do that well because they'd be facing much bigger questions every week. I accept that I have no way of proving this theory so you're well within your rights to disagree with me.
He is done here. He wont survive the season. Players already given up, United too big for him.
Well who IS big enough?
Players gave up last season under 2 different managers.
It’s the players. Compounded by leech owners.
And thats the only deal is it?
I dont believe we were a laughing stock for the last 10 years. We have Gotten 2nd in the premier league twice, winning the europa league, and few more micky mouse trophies. I would love if we can get to that level again. But, we have been a laughing stock the majority of the time with the expected standards of our club
Klopp and Pep. Wait until the next Fergie is around and we land him. Will take quite a bit of time again.
I think there is defiantly an argument that Ten Hag has underestimated the step up in quality between the Dutch league and the premier league
Yes, but ETH is too nice and naive to exchange them all. He thinks he can improve them, good luck
It's not about individual players it's about a team. A team with average players that work well together is better than a team with all star players that don't work together.
So yes Ajax' side would do better with this tactical style than this United squad.
There is only 2 options, either Ten Hag changes his tactics or the board will have to splash the cash to get Ten Hag the players he needs for his style.
I think he more likely underestimated how weak mentally the squad he inherited is.
What others has there been? Only can think of Sesko if that counts.
Totally agree
Some players that ETH are familiar with dont even look as good. Martinez signed by him looks bad so far and Van de Beek can't even get in the team ahead of Eriksen. Same with malancia who he rated highly. The manager definitely is not free of blame
I'm all for buying players that he wants
but look at the players we're linked with, there's also a major risk we buy them and they're worse in the PL. I still think we need to back him and let him die with the players he bought though, so there's no excuses I guess.
If EtH doesn't work out with a team full of his players, it'll be another 5 yrs process getting rid of them. Fecking pray he works here
Antony. We’re told he wants a RB and also a GK
Made a thread to try and get some discussion but alas it’ll be absorbed, obviously.
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