I like how I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not.
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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No real problem with his decisions in this game. It's one of the few games where injuries actually are a fair excuse, as it was an individual mistake by a player out of position that lost us the match rather than a systematic failure like it normally is.
We played much more compact than we have in the vast majority of games this season, not leaving all the space in the midfield that we normally do. As such our defence had much more protection than it normally does, and unsurprisingly that resulted in them not being overloaded all game. He played Amad, who did well enough in the first 50 minutes or so that hopefully we'll continue seeing him for the rest of the season (if the injury doesn't keep him out). I'm tempted to say that he should have kept Hojlund on with Wheatley for the final few minutes to try to really get at the Arsenal defence, but that's about it.
Of course, the fact he didn't make the mistakes that he's been making all season in this match does beg the question of why he's made those mistakes for the rest of the games.
We played much more compact than we have in the vast majority of games this season, not leaving all the space in the midfield that we normally do. As such our defence had much more protection than it normally does, and unsurprisingly that resulted in them not being overloaded all game. He played Amad, who did well enough in the first 50 minutes or so that hopefully we'll continue seeing him for the rest of the season (if the injury doesn't keep him out). I'm tempted to say that he should have kept Hojlund on with Wheatley for the final few minutes to try to really get at the Arsenal defence, but that's about it.
Of course, the fact he didn't make the mistakes that he's been making all season in this match does beg the question of why he's made those mistakes for the rest of the games.
Dead man walking
Despite losing 4-0 to Palace, expectations are that he's done a good job today from posters simply in denial. How low does the bar go down. Do we just lose every game until the end of the sason and sure it's all good.
How the hell have we not played Amrabat I the middle more?
He's been here two full seasons and we haven't developed a single, consistent pattern in our attack.
We could have played until August and we wouldn't have scored
We could have played until August and we wouldn't have scored
Injuries, missing important players like Mount, Lindelöf and Rashford, who have kept us alive all season
Can’t see us getting a point from either Newcastle or Brighton and the final will obviously be an outside chance at best
Will go down as our worst ever PL season which simply isn’t acceptable
-4 goal difference and a possible 10th finish
Will go down as our worst ever PL season which simply isn’t acceptable
-4 goal difference and a possible 10th finish
At least the thrashing predictors were wrong
fecking hell likeBecause he can't pass a football would be my guess. But yeah off the ball he was decent today I agree with that
But are you happy with the performance? Stop dancing around the question.
I answered your question
That's one of the points that I made for months. He is perfectly able to fix our issues, he just chose to not do it.
He’s been shite whenever he’s played. Today was his best game for us.
A very real possibility that West Ham, who sacked Moyes for not being good enough, finish higher than us this season
Cause he’s shite?
Hire Moyes?
This game did highlight our shit attack as well, which has been overshadowed by our defensive woes.
That's because they have more ambition and higher standards than Manchester United.
Polls shouldnt be allowed to be changed. The votes swing depending on results. Vote and stick to your vote.
Yes but without Martinez and Shaw it's impossible for us to play football or something.
Is there ANY manager available that isn't Tuchal? He will be a bad pick. Mark my words. His football is as bad as Jose
You obviously didn’t because your initial post said that we gave them as good as we got, which implied you were happy with the performance, if not the result.
Yet when I say that supporters being happy with that performance shows where our standards are at, you jump in to say you are not happy.
When I ask you again if you are happy with the performance, you ignore the question and answer “we lost”.
I get it you have nothing to defend Eth with anymore, but maybe have a tough time admitting it on this forum after the stance you had taken earlier.
You can be unhappy about the performance and still look to find positive aspects of it. The two are not mutually exclusive.
He won’t be my first pick. But considering how bad we have been under Eth, if Tuchel is the best available option out there, I will give him a piggyback ride from Munich to OT myself.
Which is a mistake, the chosen one deserves 6 years
It's not sarcastic.
updated with the Arsenal loss:
You can obviously find a couple of positives in an otherwise yet another shite performance, which that was.
Glad we agree on that.
That’s the nature of football fans, opinions change. It wouldn’t be fair if someone voted to keep him, then we get tonked 6-0 and they can’t change their mind?
Meh, didn't play his dumbass chaos style today and instead chose to be more compact. Whoopty doo.
First time in PL history we’ve lost 14 games
the feck are the people still backing him smoking?
the feck are the people still backing him smoking?
We shall get to 21. 21 is a sign. The sign. Title is ours next season.
No it wasn’t good or bad. Pretty average.
Not everything is fecking black and white. this place can be utterly moronic sometimes.
It was a low quality game but given the team we had out we did alright to stick in it to give us a chance to pinch something late on albeit we never really looked like doing so. It just proved again though what a nonsense our set up has been all season, he's just actively ignored the limitations of the team and used an approach that was never/is never going to work and has also given no platform to build on for next season.
Add it to the long list of puzzling decisions made during this campaign.
Yeah it can be as I have seen with your insane take on Eth on here the past few weeks.
Also, zero threat on their goal at home is now an “average performance”? Yeah thanks for confirming how our standards have gone in the gutter.
Also the first time we tried every possible combination at CB!! Season written off, filed away in a cabinet underneath Carrington, forgotten and lost to the ends of time...
Arteta has him and his team completely figured out by this point. He has learned his lesson well after the first game. Arsenal went naively into that one and got punished. Ever since then, he knows we are completely useless with the ball and the only danger we ever pose is on the break. No need to press high and expose themselves when it's just a matter of time before the ball is given back to them. And that is what they have been doing in the following three games, probably to a fault in regards to the scoreline.
Yet after every game you have the same type of people who think that we have "looked good" on our own merits, despite never looking even close to anything at any point during the match. Today is no different. Arsenal looked in control for the vast majority of the game. Another day and they score 3 or more. And that day always arrives, like against Crystal Palace.
He has another 2 games to do something, just anything to prevent a total disaster of a season. Finishing behind that Chelsea team... that alone should be grounds for immediate termination.
Yet after every game you have the same type of people who think that we have "looked good" on our own merits, despite never looking even close to anything at any point during the match. Today is no different. Arsenal looked in control for the vast majority of the game. Another day and they score 3 or more. And that day always arrives, like against Crystal Palace.
He has another 2 games to do something, just anything to prevent a total disaster of a season. Finishing behind that Chelsea team... that alone should be grounds for immediate termination.
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