Entschuldigung?
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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We are not in a good position to negotiate with a replacement yet, unless you want somebody already out of work - such as Potter. Tuchel won’t talk until after ECL, and same applies to most other employed managers until end of season. We could possibly have Steve McClaren as interim, but he might get sacked as well as part of the failed team. If/when EtH goes we need somebody to step in straight away and work with the team for next season.
If you offered him a payout now he'd be out of the door before you could finish the sentence
We'd sack him tomorrow and have an interim in place for the cup final. It's a fecking cup final against our rivals, what the feck is wrong with us that we are willing to just give up before we've even kicked a ball? Yes it's unlikely either way, but it's pathetic to keep ten hag going into that game.
Yeah, I'm just saying it won't be that quick IMO
Exactly. The question is who is we? And why did we do it.
He’s done poorly and made awful decisions but whatever eleven you put out has to do better than that tonight… should be embarrassed, disgraceful apathetic performance.
Ten Hag and players. All sh!te
We recently got a new CEO in my organisation and in relation to a huge project that we're undertaking, she said "we need to work with what we have before we start looking at legislative amendments". It's not a project under my remit but, she's totally correct and that project is now taking a different trajectory. So, I agree, we need someone who can get the best out of a lot of what we have now.
But, I also feel a proper clearout is needed. There's certain players that just can't be here next season: Rashford, Maguire, Eriksen, AWB, Lindelof, Evans, Antony, Martial, Casemiro etc. That's just to name a few. Re players choosing us over other clubs: we need to box clever in that department. We've consistently been an absolute joke in the transfer market for over a decade. Liverpool built a great team out of buying players like: Mane, Robertson, Salah, Wijnaldum etc. Hopefully the likes of Wilcox can help us identify good players that'll fit a certain style of play.
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That’s one thing that has hopefully changed now?
I have a feeling they will announce this coming week that he is leaving end of the season. If Bayern are interested in him, and their manager search has been shambolic enough that they probably are, then it is everyone's interest to announce his departure and let Bayern start negotiating.
Well they are talking to his camp so…
One player left tonight from the palace game Rangnick managed but apparently it's the same players letting every manager down
Yep, felt it from the beginning but then I thought maybe I’m being too harsh and judgemental. But then Gary Neville told us eth has an aura and he felt it when he and carragher interviewed him
Don't think he should manage the cup final.
Yes, who says we will replace Ten Hag with either? It’s not likely. Ten Hag is a below average manager, that isn’t proven in a top five league. There is little evidence to suggest that he is objectively better than either manager.
Beggars can't be choosers
They have burned through both Nagelsmann and Tuchel in 2 1/2 seasons and now have publically and unsuccessfully tried to hire Alonso, Nagelsmann (again), Hoeneß, Emery, De Zerbi, Slot, Rangnick, Schmidt, Flick (again), Amorim, Lopetegui and even a hopeful punt at Pep before trying to rudder back on Tuchel's sacking..
Everyone has turned them down. Now they turn to Ten Hag
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Says his agent yeah. I'm also taking to Taylor Swift about going for a drink when she comes to Dublin. I think there's more chance of that
Actually, I doubt it.
With Glazers in charge sure. They would basically give full power to the manager and not even consider sacking him, but at the moment where the fanbase would become unanimous in wanting him sacked (usually with a 6 months delay), they would sack the manager (and usually hire the manager the fanbase wants). They were an extremely reactive owners.
No idea with Ineos. Why he is even talking with the new technical director on how to prepare the new season?
Would be properly dissapointing but I have the same feeling. Even the Glazers didn't take that long to smell the coffee.
I dont blame about the goals conceded today but how many chances did we create ? How many final third passes.
For me , that's the problem. You can blame everything on injuries but just tell me why aren't we creating any chances? Obviously our attack isn't this bad surely?
For me , that's the problem. You can blame everything on injuries but just tell me why aren't we creating any chances? Obviously our attack isn't this bad surely?
Yeah I will be disappointed if this time tomorrow it's not resolved.
That’s so true.
Our goal difference is only minus 3.
But we have to play vs Arsenal, Newcastle and at Brighton. Not very exciting.
But we have to play vs Arsenal, Newcastle and at Brighton. Not very exciting.
Yeah. They’ll have to pay him out either way, and it seems clear that we might as well forfeit the FA Cup final with him in charge. Hell, a forfeit would mean a 3-0 loss, which might be better than what we get with this fool in charge.
Just anounce he's leaving at the end of the season, it'll lift the fans, and likely the players as well, we could also suddenly get a few of them back from their injuries a bit quicker as well.
-3 goal difference. How have people managed to defend this guy all season?
This makes him look bad, you know right?
Only?
Ole was also favourite at one point for a caretaker role mid-season when it looked as though Tuchel would be sacked. Huge pinch of salt.
Ten Hag has got his own players, and most are not up to it. Antony has been a disaster, Varane & Case need moving (but will be difficult due to age and wages) Malacia maybe ok as backup LB, Jury still out on Mount, who I thought was a good signing but injuries have stiffled him here since joining.
ETH will leave. But our players will need a year or two to recover from his training methods.
Erik's time has come. Just like Ole's did. Totteham and Villa have been average at best and we still can't finish above them. Hope he finishes strong with FA Cup, it might even temporarily save him, but it will just be more of the same next season.
He is
Have faith, Samid! JAWOHL!Are we supposed to believe Bayern actually want this clueless bum?
I hate when I hear people say it wouldn't be fair on him to sack him before the final. Fair?
It wouldn't be fair on the fans to not try something different. Why should we care about one man's feelings over our chance of winning a cup
Says most reputable German outlets…
They're not in position, but they will be. They all know it. And like I said, they probably carry out their role on the down low right now, just not in an official capacity. So if they want to sack the manager, then I'm sure they can. The Glazers wouldn't stand in their way if they said "listen, here's the plan" or that they want to try something different to try and get us over the line this season. Absolutely no way the Glazers say no, just like they wouldn't when their guys are in position this summer. I mean, why let Ineos install their structure on the football side if they're going to turn down their request to sack the manager? It makes no sense. And a technicality of them not being in post officially doesn't matter when they could be on the phone asking for it to happen.
Quality control
Probably the most annoying thing out of this period is I got banned several times just for being negative about the guy, just to be proven absolutely right about him later on. No one will get me these needless warning points back.
Not like I want to post on RedCafe again after the way I was treated here but it's funny how out of all our post Ferguson coach, I got banned for being negative about the worst of them all.
Oh well, just wanted to say that, which will probably be the last time I ever post here.
Not like I want to post on RedCafe again after the way I was treated here but it's funny how out of all our post Ferguson coach, I got banned for being negative about the worst of them all.
Oh well, just wanted to say that, which will probably be the last time I ever post here.
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